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#1 _sslj1973_

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 03:48 PM

Hi All,

I have a 2 door LX, It currently has the flares around the wheel arches. Front spoiler was missing at the time. I have run a search through each topic to see if has been discussed before, but no luck, although i did come across some numbers to call to replace the front spoiler.

I was wondering is there any difference between the flare kits supplied on the L34 or A9X or SS, or are they all basically the same. Is there any markings on the Flares themselves that would tell me what type it is?

I have read the SS came out wih a one piece, is this true, or did they come out with 2 piece front spoilers.
Could you get a SS without the spoiler and flare kit, or was it standard when released?

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 04:34 PM

I believe the SS came out with a one piece, slighlty smaller front spoiler than the SL/Rs. They were originally plastic, and I reckon all the SSs would have come out with them.

I am actually after a new front spoiler too for my SS, and the only place I've found that does them (1 piece in fibreglass) is Spoilertek, $225 delivered.

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 05:04 PM

Keep in mind that the SS was not factory fitted with flares. The SS 1-piece spoiler was never intended to be fitted with flares, and I personally reckon it looks shit when people bend it out to match up with the front flares.

The A9X/L34 spoilers were the two-piece ones, and I believe they were the same as those fitted to SLRs as well.

I think all SSs had the front spoiler originally, but you see SSs without them all the time so I am not 100%

Most people replace the one piece plastic SS spoilers with 2-piece jobs if they damage the originals. I think it's cheaper/easier to find the 2-piece SLR/L34/A9X style ones.

There is one set of factory style rear flares for a hatch. A9X style. But others have been made. Such as the ones that don't go down past the lowest body line. I think they are all the std. width and main shape. But many aftermarket jobs have been made over the years and I don't think anyone knows perfectly.

There are two sets of factory style flares for a sedan, L34 style and A9X style. L34 ones are not as wide as A9X ones, and none of them go the whole way down to the bottom of the sills like the hatch ones. But once again, many aftermarket ones have been made. You can tell which is which by the position of the lowest bolt - A9X flares have the bolts continuing along the edge where-as L34s have a little lip at the bottom with a bolt in the middle of it.

As far as I know, there is only one set of factory style front flares throughout the range. Same width as the rear flares of an L34. I think they all have an L-bend at the bottom where the SL/R spoiler fits in. But some aftermarket ones have been made to curve in (in order to not be fitted with a front spoiler at all) smoothly at the bottom.

Edited by Heath, 04 October 2007 - 05:13 PM.


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Posted 04 October 2007 - 05:12 PM

L34 - Two piece (there are one piece variants on the market, but stick to the two piece, one piece is ill fitting).
SS & LX SL/R 5000 shallow one piece plastic spoiler (brake ducts are just cutouts, no depth, and overall spoiler is not as deep.
A9X - Two peice deep spoiler.

All front spoilers are the same, i.e. there is not a flared version. For flares, the back return piece is just cut off.

Flares are different between the L34 and A9X, but it is only the rear flare. Have a look at the angles between front and rear. If the same angle from the body then L34 flares, if the rear angle is greater, then A9X.

That's the way I ID them.

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 05:17 PM

The A9X hatch and sedan rear flares are wider than the L34 ones. The fronts are all the same, ex factory that is.

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 06:34 PM

I am actually after a new front spoiler too for my SS, and the only place I've found that does them (1 piece in fibreglass) is Spoilertek, $225 delivered.


I recently contacted Spoilertek looking for an SS style spoiler also. I attached a photo to show what I was after, and they got back to me saying they don't do the SS style ones.
I'm guessing that is a 1 piece A9X style you were quoted on L31SS?

If anyone here knows of a place who does do the SS style spoilers, please let us all know. :spoton:

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 06:37 PM

I think it is a bit presumptuous to say all 1 piece L34 front spoilers are ill-fitting considering no 2 spoilers are the same from any of the number of companies making these.

My single piece A9X style front spoiler fits better than any 2 piece one I have ever seen and after having fitted both types the single piece is easier to fit as well as it is one less thing you have to worry about getting lined up - you know the 2 halves fit together properly.

At best, the whole spoiler and flare thing on these Troanas was a half arsed ill fitting last minute slap together so anything that can be done to improve the fit and reduce the number of joins is a good thing.


I got my front one spoiler from Milton Performance who I belive was getting them made locally - not sure if they are re-opening or not or where Andrew was getting them from.

Just think how many other types of cars had their front spoilers made in 2 pieces - I can't think of any off the top of my head. That says something to me.

If I was you I would just buy the spoilertek sinle piece one from ebay and give it a lash - then you can tell us all how it fits. It's not like they cost the earth or anything.

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 07:31 PM

True Matt. Most will be unaware for a good fit you quite often have to sand down high points on the rear of the spoiler.

Anyways, pics.

SS front spoiler:-
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My one piece spoiler (Poor fit drivers side):-
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A9X/L34 2 piece (I fitted this one):-
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EDIT: You've posted this twice. Riverina Torana Club has a contact for the guy that makes Torana spoilers for most of the other resellers. Give them a bell, or PM Rob5000 to come up with the good oil.

Edited by Yella SLuR, 04 October 2007 - 07:35 PM.


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Posted 04 October 2007 - 08:31 PM

I would really love to see what kind of job the factory did underneath the flares on both the a9x and l34 etc so I can get an idea of how they performed the fitting "professsionally"... anyone got some shots? or tech info?
Cheers. :D

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 08:54 PM

Trust me, it's not pretty on a factory car

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 06:47 AM

No probs, Thanks alot for that, so its safe to say, the ss rolled out the manufacturing plant, with out the flares, just a single piece spoiler on the front.

I started thinking about it, i came across a LX SS selling in the Trading Post from a company in Beverley hills, Autostyles, its got the full kit on it with front 2 piece and 3 piece rear. With a set of GTS Wheels. Is this setup based on the A9X.

If so, Which wheels came out on the SS?

I drive past a LX SS every morning on the way to work at Tyco, every morning, my eye shoots straight over to see if it is there. Very Nice and original. Did the Front and rear bumpers come out color-coded when released or an optional, The one selling in the trading post has all chrome, a couple of others i have seen are color coded.


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Posted 05 October 2007 - 07:32 AM

The orange SS above is pretty much the way they came from the factory, except for the wheels. The wheels just had SS hubcaps on standard steel rims.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 08:21 AM

Yep they were colour coded. Had the tail light panel painted black. Black around the windows but no black bonnet. Front spoiler and no rear spoiler, flares or bonnet scoop. 13" Steelies with "SS" hubcaps, or optioned 5-slotter kidney-bean 13" mags.

The one in the Trading Post would be an A9X mock-up effectively.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 01:56 PM

No probs, thanks heaps for that


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Posted 05 October 2007 - 01:57 PM

TORLX8, perhaps Spoilertak did quote me on an A9X front spoiler, from there responses, and lack of detail I would be hesitant to purchase one of them.

Toranamat, I'm not just going to fork out $225 if I have doubts about whether the product I'm after or not is correct!

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 02:09 PM

So the A9X is still a SS model, but with flares rear spoiler and bonnet scoop.

So both SS and A9X would have come out with HQ patterns.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 04:29 PM

Huh? SSs never had HQ stud pattern. Unless they ran the same setup as the L34 which I have never heard about, they would have needed a completely different diff and therefore floorpan. And stub-axles, brakes etc. The A9X hatch is often called an "SS A9X" but it doesn't really have much to do with it. Interior, one badge, one sticker.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 06:39 PM

If you wipe out front spoilers as much as me, you will be glad u bought the 2 piece.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 08:44 PM

Thanks Heath.

So if it is an A9X why is it badged with SS, does anybody know the reasoning for this. Story of how it came about.

With the A9X, would there have been a Badge on the grille, not talking about SS badge, Would it have been the holden symbol, or just plain with nothing on it. What about the steering Wheel, What would that have had? And the Fascia of the Ashtray.

Is there any sites with pictures of an original A9X, or if someone has some that can be posted, i am after shots of the interior mainly. Exterior would be great too.

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 08:50 PM

An SS is an SS (SS sticker on the back + grille, front spoiler, stripes up the side, and hubcaps). An A9X 2-dr has SS badges/sticker + flares + rear spoiler + GTR rims, but is an A9X (+ lots of other stuff that is slightly different).

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 11:21 AM

The A9X Club of Australia probably has good shots of all of that kinda stuff. I haven't been to their website in a year or two but you can probably find it through Google.

The A9X hatch's had "SS" badge on grill I think, definately had an "SS" ashtray. I think they just kept all the "SS" stuff because it was effectively the next model up, and the term "A9X" was never going to be advertised. I think the horn buttons were plain black grain.

The A9X sedans had the Holden badge on the grill I think, definately had an "SL/R" ashtray, and the blank horn button was carried through as well I believe. But the sedan said "SLR 5000" on the ducktail, the same as the LX L31 sedan, but not on the sills because the paint scheme would have interrupted the flares.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 08:40 AM

No luck from Spoilertek with an original SS front spoiler, here's there response.

Thanks for the email,we have the other 2 styles avail but not this one,dont know where you can try either,
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Can anyone help/advise where I can buy an SS front spoiler from that is same as original.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 04:25 PM

There was one selling on ebay, couple of days ago, may still be there, it says its an original.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 02:24 PM

Someone else was asking about factory cut guards for L34/A9X ages ago and I put these pics on my CarDomain page.

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 02:24 PM

I am looking at buying a 2 piece Front Spoiler, and the 3 piece Bob Tail. I came across these two just mucking around, I have 2 options

SSV in Top Ryde, NSW can line one up, or there is

Ford Classic Spare up in Capalabe, QLD

Which one should i go, has anybody purchased from either before

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