lj door hinges need adjusting
#1
Posted 05 June 2010 - 07:43 PM
#2
Posted 06 June 2010 - 12:13 AM
#3 _Bomber Watson_
Posted 06 June 2010 - 01:10 PM
A jack is usefull....
Cheers.
#4 _luv the uc_
Posted 06 June 2010 - 01:25 PM
Edited by luv the uc, 06 June 2010 - 01:25 PM.
#5
Posted 06 June 2010 - 01:35 PM
But first thing first, check the hinges are not worn out.
#6
Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:07 PM
#7
Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:45 PM
yea the door gap at the bottom of the door is out good gap near the front gaurd but slopes down at the back of the door and its hard to shut, its like i need to lift the door up at one end
G/day xu1kid
1st check your hinges and pins for wear as already suggested. If they check out OK then put pieces of masking tape around the strikers to mark their position for ease of installation, now remove the strikers and see how the doors line up in the opening.
If they line up better then the strikers are pulling the doors down when you close them. Had a similar ordeal with my brothers LJ 4dr after fixing some rust in the front L.H pillar. A panel beater told me that to adjust the LC/LJ hinges you get a block of hardwood and a Gympie hammer and give the barrel part of the hinge a whack, with door installed of course. Remember that a small amount of movement at the hinge translates into a larger gain over the full length of the door. Anyway after using that method to adjust the top hinge the door gaps lined up beautifully.
Cheers
Dave.
#8
Posted 06 June 2010 - 04:25 PM
#9 _quick6torana_
Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:58 AM
yea the door gap at the bottom of the door is out good gap near the front gaurd but slopes down at the back of the door and its hard to shut, its like i need to lift the door up at one end
G/day xu1kid
1st check your hinges and pins for wear as already suggested. If they check out OK then put pieces of masking tape around the strikers to mark their position for ease of installation, now remove the strikers and see how the doors line up in the opening.
If they line up better then the strikers are pulling the doors down when you close them. Had a similar ordeal with my brothers LJ 4dr after fixing some rust in the front L.H pillar. A panel beater told me that to adjust the LC/LJ hinges you get a block of hardwood and a Gympie hammer and give the barrel part of the hinge a whack, with door installed of course. Remember that a small amount of movement at the hinge translates into a larger gain over the full length of the door. Anyway after using that method to adjust the top hinge the door gaps lined up beautifully.
Cheers
Dave.
On mine the drivers door seems to have shifted back (striker rubs a little on the door frame itself and the gap between the guard and door is larger than it should be) Guess I would need to do this to both hinges equally then to shift it forward again. There dosent seem to be any adjustment in them is there?
#10
Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:12 PM
yea the door gap at the bottom of the door is out good gap near the front gaurd but slopes down at the back of the door and its hard to shut, its like i need to lift the door up at one end
G/day xu1kid
1st check your hinges and pins for wear as already suggested. If they check out OK then put pieces of masking tape around the strikers to mark their position for ease of installation, now remove the strikers and see how the doors line up in the opening.
If they line up better then the strikers are pulling the doors down when you close them. Had a similar ordeal with my brothers LJ 4dr after fixing some rust in the front L.H pillar. A panel beater told me that to adjust the LC/LJ hinges you get a block of hardwood and a Gympie hammer and give the barrel part of the hinge a whack, with door installed of course. Remember that a small amount of movement at the hinge translates into a larger gain over the full length of the door. Anyway after using that method to adjust the top hinge the door gaps lined up beautifully.
Cheers
Dave.
On mine the drivers door seems to have shifted back (striker rubs a little on the door frame itself and the gap between the guard and door is larger than it should be) Guess I would need to do this to both hinges equally then to shift it forward again. There dosent seem to be any adjustment in them is there?
No unfortunately GMH didn't give us bolt on adjustable hinges like other holdens of the era. Then again look at the Commodores their hinges aren't adjustable either from what I have seen. Go steady with the adjustment process, get a feel for the amount of force you need to apply with each hit and check the gap after each hit to ensure you don't over do it. In extreme cases it may be necessary to cut the door pin tube from the pillar hinge piece and weld it back on in revised position to achieve a satisfactory alignment. Visually check the front end of your door for signs of stretching around where the hinge pieces are welded to the door frame. It may be that the door is at fault not the pillar hinges. Maybe the drivers side pillar had bad rust issues and when repaired the hinges didn't end up in the correct postion. Check it all out thoroughly first.
Cheers
Dave.
#11 _quick6torana_
Posted 28 June 2010 - 09:05 PM
1st check your hinges and pins for wear as already suggested. If they check out OK then put pieces of masking tape around the strikers to mark their position for ease of installation, now remove the strikers and see how the doors line up in the opening.
If they line up better then the strikers are pulling the doors down when you close them. Had a similar ordeal with my brothers LJ 4dr after fixing some rust in the front L.H pillar. A panel beater told me that to adjust the LC/LJ hinges you get a block of hardwood and a Gympie hammer and give the barrel part of the hinge a whack, with door installed of course. Remember that a small amount of movement at the hinge translates into a larger gain over the full length of the door. Anyway after using that method to adjust the top hinge the door gaps lined up beautifully.
Cheers
Dave.
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On mine the drivers door seems to have shifted back (striker rubs a little on the door frame itself and the gap between the guard and door is larger than it should be) Guess I would need to do this to both hinges equally then to shift it forward again. There dosent seem to be any adjustment in them is there?
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No unfortunately GMH didn't give us bolt on adjustable hinges like other holdens of the era. Then again look at the Commodores their hinges aren't adjustable either from what I have seen. Go steady with the adjustment process, get a feel for the amount of force you need to apply with each hit and check the gap after each hit to ensure you don't over do it. In extreme cases it may be necessary to cut the door pin tube from the pillar hinge piece and weld it back on in revised position to achieve a satisfactory alignment. Visually check the front end of your door for signs of stretching around where the hinge pieces are welded to the door frame. It may be that the door is at fault not the pillar hinges. Maybe the drivers side pillar had bad rust issues and when repaired the hinges didn't end up in the correct postion. Check it all out thoroughly first.
Cheers
Dave.
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Thanks for the reply Dave.
I've had the car a long time so in this case I know its not a rust repair related issue. My A pillar dosen't appear to have suffered any damage previously but you raise a good point about the points where the hinge mounts to the door possibly stretching out. I'll have to take a close look there. Have been meaning to take the door off for years but it looked like it could be a real b**** of a job so naturally it keeps getting put off until the next weekend..........You are also correct about the commodore hinges as I have one as well. Is this something that anyone else has had happen.
Cheers
#12 _gtr161s_
Posted 01 July 2010 - 10:59 PM
If your hinges don't have any play up or down but your door is hanging down you can either lift the door up while just open ( this gives a lot of leverage to bend hinges ) or take off stop latch, open door fully, get a brass dolly, lump hammer and hit top hinge forward.
REMEMBER - hit it once then check if no movement hit it twice then check etc etc...don't go to hard as it's awkward to pull them back without removing door
#13 _yldlj_
Posted 02 July 2010 - 09:06 PM
#14
Posted 01 August 2010 - 08:36 PM
#15 _BATHURST-32D_
Posted 02 August 2010 - 06:17 AM
with the other side i would be taking a good look at the pillar [if your gaps are true, that is]as if its had rust or front end damage, it might not have been pre fitted.
cheers gong
Edited by BATHURST-32D, 02 August 2010 - 06:32 AM.
#16
Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:14 PM
#17
Posted 02 August 2010 - 06:26 PM
The passenger pilar has rust but it's only the outer skin that's rusted iv looked up there and the hinges look okay, but as you say maybe the didn't trial fit the door
G'day Anthony most of these sugestions are correct but being a t/q panel beater 1 of the best tool's 1 can have in there shed is simply a (blunt) brickies bolster with some masking tape or even a bit of rag arrond it. The ammount of panel shops or backyarders that don't gap things properly is rediculas. Anyway grab a mate to help open door & with a big hammer line bolster straight up & down in corner of hinge tube hit (SOFTLY) ie big hammer soft hit much better, fowards whilst stoping & checking gap periodicly for gaping gmh's we allways used a medium phillips head screwdriver basically the same gap on all hq's lc &j's & lh & x's. Please use cutting any of these hinges a "very" last resort anyone. Im sure once u get a bolster a big hammer phillipshead screwdriver a mate + beer for mate when job is complete things will be so much easier. Good luck & keep us posted, Grumpy xu1
#18
Posted 02 August 2010 - 08:11 PM
#19 _BATHURST-32D_
Posted 03 August 2010 - 06:41 AM
grumpy xu1,, i too find the bolster to be a very handy tool, but nothing in my shed is better than the EASYBEAT.
cheers gong
#20
Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:31 PM
Ah Gong a easy beat well you are a lucky man, yep all good tools & so worth the money. By the way guy's blackwood's sell 1mm wafer disc's great for "straight" cutting but don't twist & load them & definately wear a clear face as they can disintergrate use shitloads of them at work. hope we've helped mate allways ask if unsure. Grumpy xu1if it comes to the point where you do need to cut the door hinge, take a 2mm cutting blade and only cut half way then you will be abel to fill the cut with weld and it will make it that much easyer to align,,,
grumpy xu1,, i too find the bolster to be a very handy tool, but nothing in my shed is better than the EASYBEAT.
cheers gong
#21 _72 Torrie_
Posted 05 September 2010 - 07:43 PM
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