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Fiberglass bonnets with molded scoop

Started by _marshallLX_ , Sep 08 2010 10:39 AM

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#1 _marshallLX_

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 10:39 AM

Hey guys i have just brought myself a flare kit form this place called fibersports and dont know if any one has heard of them but they have farly big workshop and make a large range of kits. I have just fitted the A9X kit to my car and it fits nicely and there quailty is great. I brought the whole kit and fittings for $600.

While i was at the workshop i was talking the the guys there and they showed me there fiberglass bonnets that they make. I was looking at molding the scoop to the bonnet and asking them how i go about it ? They said to me that if there was enough deman for them they would be happy to make up a mould. Now i thought what better place to find this out but on this forum? I dont know how it goes with rego and stuff but they make alot of holden bonnets for VT,VY,VX An up side they were telling me is that the weight from a standed bonnet goes from 22kg down to 7-8kg which i know for the drag guys every bit counts?
So just wont to see what people think about this cause i am more than happy to donate my bonnet for the mould Posted Image

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 11:48 AM

There are other places that make 'street' glass bonnets already. But yeah they are fantastic. as long as the mounting points are done properly so that they are safe, and the quality is actually good so they fit well. Don't expect a high quality one to be cheap though.

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 12:24 PM

They said that they could make them for around the $450 - $550 range and they have steel plates in the mounting points so i think thats not that bad of a price ??? Posted Image

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 01:56 PM

Yep that sounds okay, as long as the quality is good.

Alfa Fibreglass for example, want $540 for a 'street' bonnet and their products are among the best.

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#5 _sshatch355_

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 01:58 PM

alfa motorsport fibreglass make a glass bonnet that bolts up like std,has steel inserts for the bolts and weighs 12kgs without paint

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 02:05 PM

In WA under the NCOP metal bonnets and guards can only be replaced with fibreglass or other composite panels on pre 1971 (ADR 10) vehicles. I suspect it will be the same in most states.

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#7 _Quagmire_

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 02:24 PM

so lambos,ferrais and maclearn slr's are illegal then?

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 03:56 PM

The rule applies to replacing factory metal panels with aftermarket fibreglass or composite material panels.

In WA under the NCOP metal bonnets and guards can only be replaced with fibreglass or other composite panels on pre 1971 (ADR 10) vehicles. I suspect it will be the same in most states.

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#9 _moot_

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 04:39 PM

alfa motorsport fibreglass make a glass bonnet that bolts up like std,has steel inserts for the bolts and weighs 12kgs without paint

price is pretty scarey isnt it?

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#10 _sshatch355_

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 07:02 PM

moot price isnt to bad about $950-1000 inc delivery. im not 100% on the exact price as i also brought a set of glass bumpers aswell

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 05:15 PM

I called up vic roads a about 6 months ago and they said it was ok for me to fit fibreglass front guards, nose cone and bonnet to my 74 LH??????

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#12 _marshallLX_

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 05:34 PM

So torana friends would u say if fibresports were to make fibreglass bonnets , front gards and nose cones and were able to sell them for a good price would may people be insterested in them? Posted Image

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#13 _Kush_

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 07:29 PM

In QLD it's a big NO! to fibreglass panels I believe. I tried a couple of times to make a steel bonnet scoop and failed miserably both times. I'll have another crack at it though. Have a look at the superformance site and click the 'new products' button, they have reverse facing steel scoops for sale. Just weld it on, smooth it up and you're home n hosed

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 09:06 PM

It looks like an engineer has the final say on fibreglass bonnets and guards in NSW and VIC. I do not know how you would prove that they do not affect the crush zones that were designed into the metal bonnet and guards to meet ADR 10.

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vsi_06_-_guidelines_for_light_vehicle_modifications_nov_2007.pdf

Front structure
Where ADR 10B, 10/00 or 10/01 applies, the front of the vehicle is sometimes designed to crush on impact to
absorb crash forces. Any structural modifications in this area should only be made on the advice of an engineering
signatory experienced in body and chassis structures.

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VSI8.pdf

An Approval Certificate is also required for modification to the occupant compartment and panels forward of the firewall of any passenger car manufactured after 1972.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 10:54 PM

But the faster your car is, the easier it is to get rego, right? That's how the laws are supposed to work...

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 11:10 AM

Sorry buttin in again
SSHATCH Did you buy that bonnet with the scoop moulded in or did you buy them as to seperate things?

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#17 _Quagmire_

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 12:31 PM

In QLD it's a big NO! to fibreglass panels I believe. I tried a couple of times to make a steel bonnet scoop and failed miserably both times. I'll have another crack at it though. Have a look at the superformance site and click the 'new products' button, they have reverse facing steel scoops for sale. Just weld it on, smooth it up and you're home n hosed

any chance of a link?
i'm a lazy old man lol

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#18 _sshatch355_

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 12:40 PM

Sorry buttin in again
SSHATCH Did you buy that bonnet with the scoop moulded in or did you buy them as to seperate things?

its was the first made from there new one piece top mould

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#19 _Kush_

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Posted 12 September 2010 - 09:04 PM

In QLD it's a big NO! to fibreglass panels I believe. I tried a couple of times to make a steel bonnet scoop and failed miserably both times. I'll have another crack at it though. Have a look at the superformance site and click the 'new products' button, they have reverse facing steel scoops for sale. Just weld it on, smooth it up and you're home n hosed

any chance of a link?
i'm a lazy old man lol

Sorry mate, I don't know how to make links from my iPhone. Just google 'superformance'. I saw an ad for them in Just Parts magazine so I checked it out online. They look good

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 12:15 PM

I do not know how you would prove that they do not affect the crush zones that were designed into the metal bonnet and guards to meet ADR 10.

The bonnet skin is not structural and is not attached to the frame in any spectacular fashion. It is just designed to peel back. The frame is the ADR compliant bit, which is why you need it rebraced and certified if you cut into the bonnet, to ensure the bracing has not been compromised.
Hence you will see alot of scoops with the centre bracing running across the hole (where they don't need the clearance for high carbs...)

As said, glass bonnets and guards cannot be used legally on the street in QLD. Unless you connected a glass bonnet to the existing frame, then no hope - and then, the frame is where most of the weight is......

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#21 StephenSLR

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 12:32 PM

I don't like the look of that rib that runs down the centre of the bonnet scoop. It also seems to be too far in front or too long, it just may be an illusion from the angle.

Do they have ones that look like orig. A9X scoops?

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#22 _Gunmetal LH_

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 10:50 PM

I know 2 areas that a bonnet must comply with are-

1. It has to be strong enough to support a person if you run over them and they land on the bonnet. Hence the requirement for some states to need a metal A9X scoop if it's not original and the underside bracing may need to be retained.

2. It has to fold up in an accident to avoid it slicing through the windscreen incase the mounts rip out.

That's why bonnets have the groove-(2.)

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An engineer may be able to comply a bonnet?

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#23 _sshatch355_

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 12:38 AM

stephenslr,i already had a std torana scoop but hated the way it looked tacked on so thats why i went with the camaro style so i didnt ask about a std one but your right it is longer
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