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Posted 14 May 2011 - 05:17 PM

I have been running the wires under the dash and have come across a few wires that I'm not too sure were they go.
A smart person would wright down where these wires go at the time of pull down, I consider myself smart, as I did this.
But a smarter person would have not lost the page that this was written on, you idiot. :banghead:

Here are a couple of photos of the wires.

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The car was factory auto, now manual.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 07:41 PM

Ok Paul I'll give it a go.

Tan wire to Fuel Gauge
Dk Green wire to Temp Gauge
Brown wire (trigger) to Tachometer
Two purple wires joined together to complete ignition circuit and bypass the neutral start switch on the redundant auto shift..
Reverse switch wires joined together to bypass the reverse switch on the redundant auto shift?????????.

Hope this helps.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 07:57 PM

pretty sure the brown is for the Tacho like s pack said

the orange wire in the 1st pic looks like the interior light.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 08:17 PM

the orange wire in the 1st pic looks like the interior light.


Did I miss that one?

Orange to fuse box (25amp fuse) for cigarette lighter, I think, or could be as nial8r said^^^^^.

BTW, I really know very little about LH,LX wiring, LOL, but looks like GMH used same colour coding as in LC & LJ.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 08:57 PM

Thanks Dave, but as far as the gauges go there is one main loom to run the gauges.
The brown wire goes to the terminal on the bottom right of the photo, I know this because it has "Brown" molded into the plastic. smart ay... ;)

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I think I will have to connect the two green wires to the gearbox reverse switch.
The two purple wires that are connected together to create the circuit, that makes sense to me, but I cant find what the connector plugs into.

So that still leaves the tan & dark green wires. I am pretty sure there used to be a kick down switch off the accelerator peddle, so maybe one of those wires goes there, but which one?

There needs to be a wire for the cigarette lighter, the wiring diagram states that it is orange, but cant find it.
The wipers are wired, light switch is wired, fan is wired, glove box light & switch is wired, thats about all there is for wiring.

Also at the top of the first photo there is a Green wire with a tube type connector, this one is also a mystery. :dontknow:

Anyway, if you or anyone has more ideas, please post them up here.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 09:03 PM

Yeah your right Lee, the other side of that terminal is the tacho.

I'll check the orange one, could be the interior light as those two wires were never removed, but all the rest of the wiring was.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:30 PM

Yeah your right Lee, the other side of that terminal is the tacho.

I'll check the orange one, could be the interior light as those two wires were never removed, but all the rest of the wiring was.


Hey Paul

Now I'm reading this from the LJ wiring diagram but I suspect it's similar for the LH, LX.
Auto kick down switch has a tan wire and an orange wire, the orange being the earth.

A purple wire comes from the ignition switch to the neutral start switch and other purple goes from N/S switch to starter motor solenoid.
I'm sure the purples that have been joined complete that circuit. As for the female plug with the two purples I can't work out.

I suspect the two purples that have been joined once had a male plug on the end and it connected to that female plug. Was your car originally a column shift or floor shift auto?

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 07:56 AM

Orange wire is to the kick down switch on the accelerator (there should be two), one of those brown wires goes to the cigarette lighter I think?

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 07:56 AM

Sorry Dave, I should have put up what the car was.
It's a 1976 LX SS factory floor shift auto

I have the two purple wires from the loom connected to the ignition switch maybe this is wrong, though the connector fits the ignition it also fits the connector of the two loose purple wires.
So if I connect the two purples together that leaves the two terminals on the iginition.

I'm away from the car at the moment but will get back to it soon

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 06:56 PM

There needs to be a wire for the cigarette lighter, the wiring diagram states that it is orange, but cant find it.
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Also at the top of the first photo there is a Green wire with a tube type connector, this one is also a mystery. :dontknow:
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Cheers Paul.



I'M PRETTY SURE THE CIGARETTE LIGHTER WIRE SHOULD HAVE A TUBE TYPE CONNECTOR ( bullet connector) ON IT LIKE THE GREEN WIRE YOU REFERRED TO.

FROM MEMORY IT'S A FAIRLY LONG WIRE - IT WILL STRETCH OUT PAST WHERE THE DASH FACIA NORMALLY SITS.



DON'T YA JUST LOVE PUTTING THESE BIG PUZZLES BACK TOGETHER - YOU'LL FORGET ABOUT ALL THIS FRUSTRATION WHEN YOU DRIVE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 08:07 PM

pretty sure the ciggy lighter wire is a female blade plug, thats if its stil the older style lighter ??

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 08:16 PM

Try this thread for wiring diagram
http://www.gmh-toran...__1#entry259393

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 08:59 AM


There needs to be a wire for the cigarette lighter, the wiring diagram states that it is orange, but cant find it.
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Also at the top of the first photo there is a Green wire with a tube type connector, this one is also a mystery. :dontknow:
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Cheers Paul.



I'M PRETTY SURE THE CIGARETTE LIGHTER WIRE SHOULD HAVE A TUBE TYPE CONNECTOR ( bullet connector) ON IT LIKE THE GREEN WIRE YOU REFERRED TO.

FROM MEMORY IT'S A FAIRLY LONG WIRE - IT WILL STRETCH OUT PAST WHERE THE DASH FACIA NORMALLY SITS.



DON'T YA JUST LOVE PUTTING THESE BIG PUZZLES BACK TOGETHER - YOU'LL FORGET ABOUT ALL THIS FRUSTRATION WHEN YOU DRIVE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME



Hi Bruce, the tube connector is still a mystery, as the Cig lighter has two flat type connectors like what Lee is saying.

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On the wiring diagram, it shows the orange wire going to the cig lighter then to the glove box, but what I have is one wire going to the glove box, so I'm assuming that there is another orange wire going to the cig lighter. I know that I could cut the orange glove box wire and put a connector on it for the cig lighter, but I want to make sure there is not a factory colour change for the cigarette lighter.

Hi Shaun, I have a good copy of the LX wiring diagram, but probably not looking at it right.

On my wiring diagram below, where the ignition switch is, it shows one green wire on the bottom I think this is where the green wire goes as shown in the photo above, I have the purple wires there, I think the purple wire should connect to the separate looped purple wires allowing for a continuous circuit.

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Ok I have changed the purple wires that I had on the ignition block for the green single wire, this leaves a terminal free on the ignition block as it is shown on the diagram.
so that still leaves the green tube connector wire at the top of the photo, the tan wire at the bottom left of the photo & a missing orange cig lighter wire. Any ideas?

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 05:36 PM

Hi Paul

That would be the LH wiring diagram???? Very clear pic, much better than the scanned one I found yesterday on the Old Holden Site.

The LX supplemental wiring diagram which is to be used in conjunction with the LH diagram has the Cigar lighter power wire as being Light Brown (Tan?).
The auto kickdown switch wire is orange.

The green wire with the bullet connector may just be for an accessory or something that your car doesn't have so may not have to worry about what it is for.

I was also wondering about the reverse switch and neutral start switch wires shown in one of your pics. Looks like your car has two sets of wires.
Am I reading that correctly???

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:34 PM

Thought I remembered something about a bullet connector on a green wire in another thread.
Look through this http://www.gmh-toran...56-loose-wires/ and find the pic of the standard warning light dash.
The green temp warning light wire has a male bullet connector. That would match up with the female bullet connector in the wiring harness behind the instrument cluster.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:48 PM

the 2 purple wires that go to the neutral saftey / back up switch wont go to anything if you have changed over to a manual so you should be able to put a loop join on the black plug so both purple wires have got a permanent connection so it will start. :dontknow:

im sure when i stripped the whole harness out of my LX i put tape and marked each wire with a texta even though im not going to be using it, i will have a look in the morning as im sure i still kept it, or i can have a look tonight if your in a bit of a hurry ??

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 07:05 PM

Thanks Dave, I was looking at the parts manual today (LX) and it shows the 4 door version being orange and going through to the glove box and the hatch version as two separate wires but does not say what colours, so what you have said explains where the tan goes, now I just need an earth ring piece for the cig lighter as shown in the parts manual.
Thanks very much for your help guys.

If you want a copy of that wiring diagram just PM me your email and Ill send it through. This was wiring diagram posted by another member but it was om a 30 day trial.

Cheers Paul.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 07:08 PM

Whenever you can Lee, I think I have it sorted but would be good to check.

Cheers.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 08:22 PM

no worries i will have a look first thing before i fire up the mig :DOH: :lol:

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 10:42 AM

hey Paul was you LX a colum shift ?? and did it have a standard cluster in it?? ( non tacho ?? if so this if what i have found off my harness that i found this morning and there all marked.

Tan wire / Female blade plug = Ciggy lighter

Green wire / Tube plug = Temp Gauge on the cluster / non tacho

Orange wire = brake peddle swith or clock / non Tacho

if your cluster is the original than the green wire/ tube connector should be left blank &
Orange wire should also be left blank as you dont have a clock.

Brake peddle switch should be red & Orange

light green & dark green = reverse switch

Green wire / female blade connector goes up inside the colum with a white multi plug that has:-

Yellow,brown,Purple,Red & 2 x Pink wires.



Hope this might help :dontknow:

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 11:44 AM

hey Paul was you LX a colum shift ?? and did it have a standard cluster in it?? ( non tacho ?? if so this if what i have found off my harness that i found this morning and there all marked.

Tan wire / Female blade plug = Ciggy lighter

Green wire / Tube plug = Temp Gauge on the cluster / non tacho

Orange wire = brake peddle swith or clock / non Tacho

if your cluster is the original than the green wire/ tube connector should be left blank &
Orange wire should also be left blank as you dont have a clock.

Brake peddle switch should be red & Orange

light green & dark green = reverse switch

Green wire / female blade connector goes up inside the colum with a white multi plug that has:-

Yellow,brown,Purple,Red & 2 x Pink wires.



Hope this might help :dontknow:



No Lee, its an SS hatch, all were floor change auto and manual and has the original cluster in it.

Theres no orange wire from the loom at the cluster, only the green tube type that will be ignored.

Yeah I have removed the two purple wires that I had on the ignition cluster (see first picture) and put the green female blade wire in its place.

And the Tan wire has been connected to the cigarette lighter, all I need now is an earth ring piece to connect the earth to.

Thanks heaps Lee, that confirmed what I have now done.

Cheers Paul.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 11:58 AM

no worries let us know if it all works




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