Light Tough 9" Options
#1 _LXSS350_
Posted 04 August 2011 - 02:42 AM
Manual gearbox with around 700 RWHP.. (sunday street and track car)
Thinking of something like these for the housing and tubes (obviously to suit Torana)
http://www.extremedr...p?page=products
http://www.pro9.com....SV=Primary&CDO=
Moser Billet Axles
http://www.mcdonaldb...illetaxles.html
Romac Floater Kit?? (not sure if I will float)
http://www.pro9.com....SV=Primary&CDO=
Strange Case
http://www.pro9.com....SV=Primary&CDO=
Truetrak Diff
http://www.eaton.com...etroitTruetrac/
330mm slotted vented disc with AP 4 piston calipers
#2
Posted 04 August 2011 - 06:45 AM
Use Mark Williams for everything.
Edited by wot179, 04 August 2011 - 06:47 AM.
#3 _rob350hatch_
Posted 04 August 2011 - 07:59 AM
#4 _LXSS350_
Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:39 AM
Not wrong but the diff is the cheapest and easiest part of the driveline. Buying a good A9X makes stuffing around with SL's bloody cheap.win lotto first imo
#5 _rob350hatch_
Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:42 AM
#6 _LXSS350_
Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:14 AM
Actually its just for fun and will be as streetable as any current HSV. I needed a fun project and so have picked up an SL, certainly dont want to cut up my A9X or SS. Reality is I am single old and want to take 40 years off my body clock ..... LOLjust out of curiosity what do you really want all that rwh for?????
#7 _LXSS350_
Posted 04 August 2011 - 07:32 PM
I have no experience with a Wavetrac, anyone know about them?
http://www.wavetrac.net/
#8 _rob350hatch_
Posted 04 August 2011 - 08:45 PM
#9 _LXSS350_
Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:31 PM
With such big sticky tyres and a manual its important that I keep reliability. Weight is a really big issue on this build and keeping upsprung weight to a minimum is also important for the handling goals that I want to eventually achieve on the skidpan. Its not built to be a drag racer it will be built for very fast corners.yeah lsd 's are the go but if your power is tractable then why not.
#10
Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:08 PM
I have no experience with a Wavetrac, anyone know about them?
A wavetrac 31 spline on my wishlist. I read that an alternative to it is a Quaife QDH1R, but I think it is more expensive?
#11 _LXSS350_
Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:30 PM
Thanks I will look at the Quaife as well. Everything you buy seems to be more dollars as the thirst for a better mousetrap continues. A 35 spline Wavetrac looks like getting the gig at the moment.
I have no experience with a Wavetrac, anyone know about them?
A wavetrac 31 spline on my wishlist. I read that an alternative to it is a Quaife QDH1R, but I think it is more expensive?
#12
Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:42 PM
#13 _LXSS350_
Posted 05 August 2011 - 12:00 AM
Nice, that's about the dollars. Yours looks bloody nice. Is your mates floated HQ used for drag raceing? It takes time to research the right combo. Do you run LSD,Positrac,Wavetrac or one of the lockers or spools? What rotors,calipers,handbrake setup, wheel size? Its not really the HP ...... its the torque and those sticky 13.5" tyres that kills my driveline. That's why I am thinking I am better to go to the expense of 35 spline and wavetrac than to float the axles. Your car is heavier than my aim, but it remains to be seen just how much I can shave off the old girl without it being seen as a seat, engine and 4 wheels. No luxurys or noise deadening in this one, but from the outside it will just look like a stock,neat torana except for the bloody big boots which are hard to hide. Even the under 3000rpm exhaust note will not scream hoon like some of mine have in the past. I am too old to get hassled by the fuzz, as most are younger than my own kids.I have pretty much the combo your looking at, Strange alloy case, 31 spline Moser axles, Chrome Molly pinion support and tail shaft and billet yolks Cost around $5,500 if I remember correct, did it in sections. No dramas so far, and its behind a manual with the horses your after and the car weighs about 1350kgs. My mate just put a 35 spline slippery thru bolt Strange alloy diff in his 2 door HQ with Romac floaters and Commodore brakes, cost $8,500 all up, rated for 1000 horses.
#14
Posted 05 August 2011 - 07:45 AM
They flex and wear out gears very quickly,and are advertised as such.
Perfect for a strip only car,I dont even think it would be wise to use one in a weekend club circuit car unless you are planning to replace the gearsets every couple of thousand kms.
#15 _LXSS350_
Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:16 AM
I have not had any issues in the past, however this is the most power/torque that I have put into one. Will talk to people about it, and I guess myss427I think you would be crazy to use an alloy carrier on a street car.
They flex and wear out gears very quickly,and are advertised as such.
Perfect for a strip only car,I dont even think it would be wise to use one in a weekend club circuit car unless you are planning to replace the gearsets every couple of thousand kms.
will give his feedback as he runs a alloy Strange. Nothing is ever perfect but sometimes priorities dictate choices, and for me that's excess weight which as Jenny Craig knows is all too hard to shed.
#16
Posted 05 August 2011 - 11:41 AM
Edited by myss427, 05 August 2011 - 11:48 AM.
#17
Posted 05 August 2011 - 12:03 PM
This may be more noticable in a car set up with a spool for dragracing as opposed to a limo setup.Others may know more about this than me.
It is also a condition specifically noted in Stranges' sales literature(or used to be),I havent checked it recently.
Im not having a go,I understand your point of saving weight,we come from the same school in that regard,just commenting on something you may be unaware of.
#18 _Liam_
Posted 05 August 2011 - 06:10 PM
How the hell are you going to get 700RWHP? That is extreme. What gearbox you running?
#19 _LXSS350_
Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:10 PM
Have a large amount of hot motors (chev,holden,dodge) to choose from in the shed. Power is from $$$,cubic inches,forced induction,good electronics and very good breathing work. Gearbox/clutch is still an enormous area of contention but a brand new highly modified T56 Magnum is currently being built in the USA for the car. However the end aim is something that I have been thinking about for a long time and that setup is far different (some say radical) than anything thats ever done on a Torana. Of course its longer term and might end up being a money pit which is why this is the viable intermediate step.Yes but a diff in V8 Supercars cost more than the engines do. Approx 50K. According to Mr. Lowndes' mechanics via some bloke I worked with.
How the hell are you going to get 700RWHP? That is extreme. What gearbox you running?
#20 _Bomber Watson_
Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:17 PM
Just my 2c.
Cheers.
#21 _LXSS350_
Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:35 PM
Fuel economy on the other hand is dubious.
#22
Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:43 PM
Im a big fan of lightweight pseudo-legal streetcars.Absolutely love the concept.
Id drill a hole in my head to let the air out if I thought it would make me go quicker.
#23 _LXSS350_
Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:53 PM
LOLAll good,mate.
Im a big fan of lightweight pseudo-legal streetcars.Absolutely love the concept.
Id drill a hole in my head to let the air out if I thought it would make me go quicker.
Sad to say .... but I would too.
Love speed which is why I shouldn't watch motorsports then go for a drive in anything other than a corolla.
I lost my license in my SS hatch in 1979, the exact same night after Brock won Bathurst (go figure). I was young then.(my excuse)
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