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Posted 09 May 2013 - 04:17 PM

Can you still register a lc 4dr with an injected 5 lt?

Oh in qld ?

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 05:06 PM

pretty sure you can't unless you had it engineered before the start of this month
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 05:37 PM

Really that sucks can u put anything in them?

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 06:12 PM

253 should be ok



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:01 AM

Talk to an engineer. People have been saying that 'you can't put a 308 in an LC/J after x month this year' for the 7 years that I've been a member here.

Talk to an engineer and get the actual facts, not what someone has heard down the pub.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:25 AM

Spoke to main roads they gave me 2 engineers in rocky 1 number disconnected the other had no idea. I guess cause its not a hylux.starting to think I be better of regestering it in vic in me old boys name.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 12:02 PM

Seeing though your in rocky have a chat to alex at murphy motors.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 12:32 PM

I just had mine engineered with a 283 sbc, the engineer said that if I had waited till after may 1st he could not have approved it,
this happened in his workshop ,not in the pub at all ,cheers Rodney
hey josh send me a pm If you want the engineers number in mackay he is very helpful,

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 12:50 PM

You should be able to go up to a 5.5 ltr according to the NCORP rules providing you can get the engineer to use the LC GTR XU1 weight of 1102kg which they should as it states to use the heaviest model

This will put you in the 5 x curb weight catergry thus the 5.5ltr

Not sure how LJ owners will go as the heaviest LJ was under 1100kgs so only 4 x curb weight = 253 or maybe 283 if your lucky

 

There is a paragraph that is under the below table on the doc but I can't find it atm, it does say something about being able to go bigger with apropriate mods but its worded funny and is probably a grey area.

 

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 01:47 PM

The heavyest lc/lj torana was 1054kg. There was never one over 1100.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:02 PM

GMH's published curb weight for the LJ XU1 was 2417lb = 1096.332kg.

 

Going on the Engine Capacity calc's (NA) 1096.332kg x 4 = 4385.328 cc


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:27 PM

It's ridiculous that something like slightly different designed wheels 40 years ago could've meant that 308's were a bolt in swap now...



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:48 PM

Lucky ey rimjob :-)

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:59 PM

The heavyest lc/lj torana was 1054kg. There was never one over 1100.

Hey Bomber,
I got the LC XU1 weight from Dr Terry's book, 60 years of Holden so I hope it's right. I bought the book mainly for that info to show an engineer as I want to stick a SBC in my LC S.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:07 PM

Hey Bomber,
I got the LC XU1 weight from Dr Terry's book, 60 years of Holden so I hope it's right. I bought the book mainly for that info to show an engineer as I want to stick a SBC in my LC S.

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1102kg for an LC XU1, I don't think so. The LC XU1 was approx 18 kgs lighter than the LJ XU1.



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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:23 PM

Hey S pack,
As I said, just quoting the book, I was told the info in it was obtained from GMH archives???

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:30 PM

Hey S pack,
As I said, just quoting the book, I was told the info in it was obtained from GMH archives???

Cheers bullet

Hey, if it works for you then go for it. :spoton:


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:16 PM

Had a look at my workshop manual....

 

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It recons

 

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So yeah LC is lighter. By a long shot.....

 

Dont have DR Terry's latest book, do have the 50 years book but cant find it. He is a member of this here forum perhaps someone could pm him and ask where he got that number from???

 

Dont get me wrong i would be delighted if someone could find some proper proof that a LC or LJ was over 1100kg, even though im heavily against v8's in them that would open up new avenues for us that like turbo sixes....

 

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:21 PM

I'll see if I can get hold of him and see if its a miss print or the real deal.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:24 PM

To sleazy mate....Some proper documentation would go a long way.....

 

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:15 PM

To sleazy mate....Some proper documentation would go a long way.....

Cheers.


Sorry Bomber not sure what you mean there,
I was told Dr Terry was an expert on Holden history, I don't believe everything I read on the net but a published book is a different story. Hopefully the engineer I choose is as gulable as I am!

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:58 PM

proper documentation would mean something from GMH we can show the government and have them change the weight rating they have for LC/LJ Toranas....

 

YOu dont think an engineers certificate is actually worth jack do you? If it goes over the pits and there numbers are different your still #@$^%&....

 

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 01:30 PM

Had a look at my workshop manual....

 

CF262415-C95F-4904-B585-C4DC2216D436-738

 

It recons

 

0e5d78da-652b-4ede-8eaa-7423172e823e_zps

 

So yeah LC is lighter. By a long shot.....

 

Dont have DR Terry's latest book, do have the 50 years book but cant find it. He is a member of this here forum perhaps someone could pm him and ask where he got that number from???

 

Dont get me wrong i would be delighted if someone could find some proper proof that a LC or LJ was over 1100kg, even though im heavily against v8's in them that would open up new avenues for us that like turbo sixes....

 

Cheers.

 

Bomber,

I tried to PM Dr. Terry last night but it wouldn't send, his inbox must be full or something.

 

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 04:33 PM

DJ, keep in mind the 82911 kerb weight listed in the LC workshop manual is for a GTR not a GTR XU1.

LC GTR XU1 didn't exist at the time the LC workshop manual was originally released (1969) and no revisions were made to include the XU1 in subsequent reprints.



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Posted 11 May 2013 - 04:42 PM

THat would explain why the 4 door S and SL are heavyer.....






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