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[Slack]

what are peoples thoughts on these gearboxs built by various builders in sydney?  probably should have asked this before I ordered mine , but I am happy with questions and answers that I got .what do others think?

[Slack]

thanks grant. I offered this to the forum as I couldn't find any independent information on this subject . I hope other forum members can contribute any information good or bad or even just personal thoughts on whether these gearboxs are an economic choice between standard and American options.     mick

[A9X]

i bought a race pepped one from ATC to fit in my Yellow LX daily driver. its a warm 308, with a salisbury. I wanted to keep an all gmh drivetrain just because.

ATC were recommended by some group C racers and some forum members.

 

I also bought one of those rebuilt aussie 4 speed specialists m21's from a forum member here , for my young blokes car. 

 

now the ATC box is quality plus just sitting there, the other one looked like it had been under a house for a year. and i needed to wash it out for all of the dust and swarf that was in it,

 

neither are a running yet so i can't comment further, but the forum has a number of threads on the quality and service of these two.

 

as to their ability to withstand the heat in the kitchen, i'm happy to give stick with the original driveline. It worked ok in its day and i'm just an average driver.

 

(enter Colin with his thoughts here ……)

 

[A9X]

 

 

[Tyre biter]

Welby, that looks very much like the work of Peter Zitis of Aussie 4 Speed Specialists: http://www.freewebs....speeds/home.htm

He was on here just a few weeks ago: http://www.gmh-toran...et-a-tough-box/

I have one myself but I can't comment as to performance/reliability as my car is yet to turn a wheel under its own steam.
I can however comment to 'appearances, recycled excuses and dishonesty', and in fact I did so to Welby back in August 2012; http://www.gmh-toran...ussie-4-speeds/

Your call Slack, but I remind you of the saying 'caveat emptor' - Based on my experience, I for one don't expect to ever gain anything out of the warranty offered should things go awry.

I just hope the thing is well built and won't put me in a place where I'd ever have to contemplate warranty repair.

Cheers, TB

[Slack]

thanks for your inputs. mine is being supplied by john hall from jvr transmissions in Sydney. talking to some others here in Adelaide who have purchaced from him in the past have no problems with the product . in saying that no-one has yet to make a claim.

[A9X]

Yes, TB did give me a heads up and that's why i went with ATC, amongst other good reports.

 

I bought the zitis one only because the cost of the combined components was attractive and it was not going in a performance application. 

 

Plenty of good reports here if you search 

[N/A-PWR]

and Aussie4speeds,

uses Mitsubishi Bearings in the Aussie 4 speed, having a bit of machining done in them, which makes them tougher, also a Modified Ford main shaft or something.  Dave I

[Slack]

so there you go, if you read all the specs from the assemblers they all read pretty much the same.

all the above mods listed by grant.

so as I read it , it comes down to who has recommended them or who your comfortable with or pricing.

 

thanks mick

[Tyre biter]

Agent, I hear what you are saying and so I say to all, go see Peter Zitis and his Aussie 4Speed Specialist 'operation' at his house.

 

I could say that his continual change of E-Bay names is evidence enough of the dodgy goings on.  But as more considered evidence/opinion, I will say that my boy couldn't even use his toilet for the eight feet of soiled washing stacked on top of it and so went down the back amongst the even taller weeds and multiple wrecks just to have a pee.

 

To look behind the gate and see the shit lying about the pavement and the state of his shed is... well... gob smacking really.

I have attended workshops in the third world and seen a better, cleaner and more professional operation - Phillip Limahado in Auki on Malita Island (Solomon Islands) comes to mind - simple mechanicing but with a notable degree of pride despite the dirt floor under his house.

 

On top of this, you get a bloke requiring payment up front and then (like I have said in threads previously including this one) issues you with recycled excuses, out and out lies and sheer skull-duggery for not providing the gearbox to you as undertaken by him - the bloke can't meet his own deadlines - time and time again FFS!  In the end I told this bloke about a week out that I was coming to visit him at a certain time and on a certain day in order to get mine, and he was still working on the darned thing when I turned up.  Like Welby said - it looked like it has been dragged out from under a house.

 

I have heard around the traps that he actually builds a pretty good gearbox, but in the case of mine, I am left wondering if I got the 'gold plated' build or the 'wood veneer' build - time will tell I guess.  God knows the supposed 'warranty' he issues is absolutely useless.

 

Again I say; caveat emptor (buyer beware) - you go with this guy and what happens happens - if it is good, then bloody good on you.  If not, you can't say you were not warned.

I will say however, if you visit his place first, there is no way on God's green earth you will part with your hard earned - he and his place is frankly, disgusting - in my more than a quarter of a century on the beat this place is right up there with the worst I have encountered.

 

Despite appearances I have no axe to grind - jeepers I bought one from him.  But what I steadfastly wish to do is to 'put it out there' - folks should rightfully satisfy themselves as Agent suggests - but like I said, a visit should let one make up their own mind to look elsewhere.  Like the Chris deBurgh song went: 'don't pay the ferryman, don't even fix a price, don't pay the ferryman, until he gets you to the other side'.

 

Cheers, TB

Edited by Tyre biter, 24 February 2014 - 04:30 PM.

[LJGTR6]

^^^^ LOL what he said... are you secretly living my life.

[Slack]

well the gearbox arrived toddy via tnt. after unpacking it plus my other spares I opened up the side cover just to check every thing was as it is supposed to be. Yes all new gears ,syncros and shafts. even a billet bearing retainer. at this point in time im very happy with what I see . next job is to finish painting chassis black underneath and then fit everything back in place and then test drive .  thanks mick

[N/A-PWR]

Great Speech Peter

[Tyre biter]

Peter,

Ordinarily I'd give you the benefit of the doubt but - indeed I said as recently as a three days ago that I have heard around the traps that you build a pretty good product.

But you are fibbing mate, out-and-out fibbing: You were there in July 2011, the place was an absolute tip and you padded me off time and time again with excuses; so many that you recycled them without being aware of doing so, meaning they were not excuses, they were lies.

This dragged on for months didn't it?

And then you will remember that I had to force your hand by coming up to get it - even then it wasn't finished and on top of this, parts like the reverse switch were broken and the cable you undertook to include in the purchase was as well. 

It took me another few months to get a replacement switch out of you.

Like I said, typically I'd give the benefit of the doubt but you mate, through your own conduct displayed that you don't deserve it as evidenced by your contining fibbing rather than just falling on your sword and admitting things were as you and I know them to have been.

I genuinely say best of luck and I hope you have turned your operation around, but nevertheless I will remain a stalwart of warning folk about your conduct.

Your workmanship might well be totally the opposite - indeed I have a vested interest to hope that it is; but this is about how your treat your customers mate - deceitful conduct is not something that invites return customers nor glowing reviews, especially when you perpetuate the lies as you have just done.

TB

Edited by Tyre biter, 27 February 2014 - 07:48 AM.