G'day all, I am in need of your help!
I am in the process of trying to get my LH Torana changed from NSW rego to WA rego and have hit a little snag. The low beam is blown on the left hand head lamp and the sealed beam needs to be replaced. Easy just buy a new one. Wrong! Coventrys no longer stock genuine rectangular Torana headlights and say that they do not do a H4 conversion of the exact size. Rare spares said to try Coventrys.
Has anyone replaced a rectangular style headlight recently with an new one? If so where did you buy it from?
Has anyone done a H4 conversion on the rectangular headlights? If so can you supply me with any details on where you got the kit from?
If all else fails is there anyone in Perth that has a second hand one that they want to get rid of?
Cheers for your help
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Posted 14 July 2006 - 11:56 AM
i have replaced the headlights on my lh with rectangular h4 lights i got off ebay
i cant find who sold them to me, but they where some indian brandname
pretty good, and they are a lot better light than from the old sealed beams
i cant remeber which model, but one of the v series (i think) has the same rectangular headlights as the lh, and there is a mob in melbourne that do sell them, just be prepared to pay for the privelage.
you still have two options though, buy a sealed beam from the wreckers ( cost about $10), or convert to the more available lx round headlights, which H4 conversions can be bought from a lot of places.
I just didnt want this, cause i like the rectangular lights.
maybe someone else could shed some light on the valiant that shares these lights
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dave
i cant find who sold them to me, but they where some indian brandname
pretty good, and they are a lot better light than from the old sealed beams
i cant remeber which model, but one of the v series (i think) has the same rectangular headlights as the lh, and there is a mob in melbourne that do sell them, just be prepared to pay for the privelage.
you still have two options though, buy a sealed beam from the wreckers ( cost about $10), or convert to the more available lx round headlights, which H4 conversions can be bought from a lot of places.
I just didnt want this, cause i like the rectangular lights.
maybe someone else could shed some light on the valiant that shares these lights
cheers
dave
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Posted 14 July 2006 - 12:30 PM
I am keen to retain the rectangular style lights if possible. If anyone else has bought the H4 conversion ones off ebay and knows the sellers name please let me know. Does anyone know the name of the place in Melb?
Thanks again
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Thanks again
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Posted 15 July 2006 - 08:57 AM
Have A Look At This
I have found a H4 Headlight for you, but it looks like he only has one
its a start, and a part number for you
cheers
dave
I have found a H4 Headlight for you, but it looks like he only has one
its a start, and a part number for you
cheers
dave
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Posted 15 July 2006 - 02:57 PM
VG and VH valiant had rect headlamps, dont know if thats going to be any help finding them, you could check spare parts suppliers for valiants, wreckers etc, sure ive seen rect lamps on a few cars.
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Posted 15 July 2006 - 04:51 PM
thats the one devil, i knew it was a v series valiant
there are two very similar rectangular headlights
one is th torana/valiant that obviously fit perfectly.
the other ones are from mainly toyotas (MR2. Hilux) and dont quite fit
they are shallower, and flatter, and dont really look right
cheers
dave
there are two very similar rectangular headlights
one is th torana/valiant that obviously fit perfectly.
the other ones are from mainly toyotas (MR2. Hilux) and dont quite fit
they are shallower, and flatter, and dont really look right
cheers
dave
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Posted 15 July 2006 - 09:22 PM
I have about 40 good secondhand ones, a few new old stock ones & may even have some H4 Hella's.
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Posted 15 July 2006 - 10:42 PM
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Can you check to see if you have any H4 conversion headlights in stock for me? If you do can you please tell me how much they are and also how much the NOS sealed beams are? Will you frieght to Western Australia?
Cheers for the help
L31SLR
Can you check to see if you have any H4 conversion headlights in stock for me? If you do can you please tell me how much they are and also how much the NOS sealed beams are? Will you frieght to Western Australia?
Cheers for the help
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Posted 17 July 2006 - 02:16 PM
Hella and Narva still do H4 conversion kits.
Toyota rectangular lights are the same size AFAIK.
Gave away a set of LH H4s a couple of years ago......
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Toyota rectangular lights are the same size AFAIK.
Gave away a set of LH H4s a couple of years ago......
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Posted 17 July 2006 - 02:59 PM
that 's prompted my memory, toyota t18 has rect lamps
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Posted 17 July 2006 - 11:03 PM
I spent some time doing some surfing on the net yesterday and found a place in South Australia that sells brand new H4 conversion lights to suit the LH. The companys name is Classic and Vintage Bulbs.
Classic and Vintage bulbs
(look in the monthly jumble specials)
The lights are on special at the moment and are $20 each. H4's to fit are $12 for 55/60W and $14 for 55/100W. Postage to Western Australia was $12. When they have arrived and I've had a chance to check them out I will let you know about the Quality.
Cheers everyone for your help and hopefully this information may help some of you.
L31SLR
When we took the U/S light into Coventrys to try and get a new light the rectangular lights listed in the Hella and Narva books were a slightly different size. From memory the LH light is 122 X 188mm amd all the ones listed are not quite the same size.
Classic and Vintage bulbs
(look in the monthly jumble specials)
The lights are on special at the moment and are $20 each. H4's to fit are $12 for 55/60W and $14 for 55/100W. Postage to Western Australia was $12. When they have arrived and I've had a chance to check them out I will let you know about the Quality.
Cheers everyone for your help and hopefully this information may help some of you.
L31SLR
When we took the U/S light into Coventrys to try and get a new light the rectangular lights listed in the Hella and Narva books were a slightly different size. From memory the LH light is 122 X 188mm amd all the ones listed are not quite the same size.
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Posted 18 July 2006 - 11:27 AM
How were you measuring the light housings?
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Posted 01 August 2006 - 01:40 AM
Sorry it has taken so long to reply everyone but I have been down in Perth picking up the car.
enderwigginau I was measuring the frame that retains the headlight into its housing. The measurments I gave you were within a couple of mm's and the 2006 Hella and Narva light catalogues don't list this size light.
The H4 conversion lights that I ordered from Classic and Vintage Bulbs arrrived about 3-4 days after I ordered them and turned out to be a fairly good product. The lights were an exact fit but there were a few little differences in the globe and park light setup. The original plug for the sealed beam would not fit over the new H4 globe holder. I did not want to chop the plug up so I pulled the wires out of the Torana plug and fitted a plug off a late model car.
The park light globe holder was fitted into the back of the new lights by filing a couple of small cut outs into to hole in the back of the light. The globe holder then fitted in and locked into place and is probably better than original.
The overall quality of the lights is pretty good and I would recommend them.
One last thing, the style of H4 globe is not your standard run of the mill H4 globe. It is the H4 globe with the small locating bumps and not the locating tabs. Can still be bought from Coventrys etc but maybe not your highway roadhouse.
I hope this helps some of you
Cheers
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enderwigginau I was measuring the frame that retains the headlight into its housing. The measurments I gave you were within a couple of mm's and the 2006 Hella and Narva light catalogues don't list this size light.
The H4 conversion lights that I ordered from Classic and Vintage Bulbs arrrived about 3-4 days after I ordered them and turned out to be a fairly good product. The lights were an exact fit but there were a few little differences in the globe and park light setup. The original plug for the sealed beam would not fit over the new H4 globe holder. I did not want to chop the plug up so I pulled the wires out of the Torana plug and fitted a plug off a late model car.
The park light globe holder was fitted into the back of the new lights by filing a couple of small cut outs into to hole in the back of the light. The globe holder then fitted in and locked into place and is probably better than original.
The overall quality of the lights is pretty good and I would recommend them.
One last thing, the style of H4 globe is not your standard run of the mill H4 globe. It is the H4 globe with the small locating bumps and not the locating tabs. Can still be bought from Coventrys etc but maybe not your highway roadhouse.
I hope this helps some of you
Cheers
L31SLR
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Good to hear you have it sorted.
In case you werent aware, if you use over 75W per lamp on high or low beam, you are going beyond the rating of the switch and wiring.
In case you werent aware, if you use over 75W per lamp on high or low beam, you are going beyond the rating of the switch and wiring.
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Posted 01 August 2006 - 04:52 PM
the globes that these conversions take is a P45t base. as opposed to everything else in the world, that uses a P43t base.
I just got 3 of these globes frome the bloke at classic and vintage, $48 all up, including postage, and it saves me scouring the shelves around town to find some.
I run 55/60w, and i basically made a whole new loom, with relays, and put new headlight plugs in.
The reason for this was so that if i wasnt happy with them, i could always bump it up to 100 or so watts, and not worry about frying anything.
cheers
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I just got 3 of these globes frome the bloke at classic and vintage, $48 all up, including postage, and it saves me scouring the shelves around town to find some.
I run 55/60w, and i basically made a whole new loom, with relays, and put new headlight plugs in.
The reason for this was so that if i wasnt happy with them, i could always bump it up to 100 or so watts, and not worry about frying anything.
cheers
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Posted 01 August 2006 - 05:59 PM
G'day davelh, did you buy the light assemblies from Classic and Vintage as well or did you already have the H4 conversion? If you did buy the lights what did you think of the quality and what did you do for the park lights? I also ran new wiring with relays and am running the 55/100W globes. I very happy with the light they put out.
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Posted 01 August 2006 - 09:26 PM
I actually bought my H4 Coversion off ebay, they where some indian brand, but they fit perfect an project the light really well.
I also set up a headlight aiming chart on the door of the shed, and aimed the headlights as per the service manual
This made a hell of a lot of difference as well.
Anyhooo
the parkers in my lights where already there, so i just go a couple of globes for them.
cheers
dave
shit, i forgot to put in the measurements, but the book is in the shed.
i will put it on here tomorrow night, but if you follow it, you wont regret it
I also set up a headlight aiming chart on the door of the shed, and aimed the headlights as per the service manual
This made a hell of a lot of difference as well.
Anyhooo
the parkers in my lights where already there, so i just go a couple of globes for them.
cheers
dave
shit, i forgot to put in the measurements, but the book is in the shed.
i will put it on here tomorrow night, but if you follow it, you wont regret it
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Posted 02 August 2006 - 04:56 PM
ok
the horizontal centre line on the chart needs to placed 7.5 m from the headlights, on a level plane, at a height the same as the centre of the headlight(if that makes sense),
and the vertical line needs to be placed in line with the centre line of the car.
you will obviously need to scale this
i did it with some masking tape on the front of the shed, at it was all sweet
cheers
dave
the horizontal centre line on the chart needs to placed 7.5 m from the headlights, on a level plane, at a height the same as the centre of the headlight(if that makes sense),
and the vertical line needs to be placed in line with the centre line of the car.
you will obviously need to scale this
i did it with some masking tape on the front of the shed, at it was all sweet
cheers
dave
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Thanks for the headlight set up information davelh. I will give it a go next time I have a chance and let you know how it turns out.
Cheers again
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Cheers again
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 03:44 PM
Hey guys, just to revive an old thread (should have done a search for this before getting p****d off about not getting sealed beams), i have just bought a couple of the H4 lights, they are Autopal brand (part no:HL108P45 LHT) manufactured by Autolite Ltd in India, got them from Direct Auto Supply in Mackay for anyone around this area, light was $29ea and the H4 bulb (100/90w) P45t $14ea and like everyone else i have to rewire for them cause i don't want to cut the harness if possible.
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 05:20 PM
Yeah, thats the brand i got all that time ago i reckon.
Not a hard job to rewire and put relays in, and i reckon to this day every cent i spent on those lights was worth it
dave
Not a hard job to rewire and put relays in, and i reckon to this day every cent i spent on those lights was worth it
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