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[sibhs]

Hi guys, just got my air cleaner back from chromer. <br />I asked for repairs to it, get it looking shmick. It has come back with a few pits or tiny spot dents not removed. <br />I queried it and they said it couldn't be sanded out without thinning metal too much. I asked couldn't it be filled? They said no. <br />Any thoughts?<br />Just spent $300 on getting this lot chromed and not very happy about it. <br /><br />These are the marks. They are pitted but when you rub your fingers over them they're also raised edges.

[N/A-PWR]

That's a shame Marty,

 

When we see chrome Filter housings in the shops,

 

the chrome on them is perfect, so why can't the chromers get it right,

Hi guys, just got my air cleaner back from chromer. I asked for repairs to it, get it looking shmick. It has come back with a few pits or tiny spot dents not removed.

[warrenm]

I was under the impression that with marks like that it goes back in the copper solution again before it goes into the chrome.

[EunUCh]

I believe that things like that can be fixed.

if they can do this to this anything is possible.

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[jd lj]

I was once told that some chrome platers use an arsenic method which will help fill some imperfections.
The electro platers that I use don't use the arsenic, they use a triple plating method.
There's probably more to it than I can explain, but it might be a start for something to research.

[EunUCh]

They used to use cyanide in the brew but it's a no no these days,if they don't triple plate don't use them.

I think it is the copper on bare metal that causes corrosion after a while,that's why they put a coat of zinc (i think) on the metal

first, then copper,then chrome. 

[sibhs]

Any experts out there with an opinion? I Have to decide what to do about this.

[dattoman]

Should be able to be filled

 

Who did the chrome ?

And will they entertain a do-over ?

[sibhs]

The 'Kid' behind the counter said they couldn't fill it. I wanted to see if it is possible to fix. Sounds like it is so I will go back and speak to manager. If they refuse to try and better it I will let you know who they are.

[71xu1]

I had some wheel nuts done at huntingdale electro platers. Wheel nuts were original acorn LC xu1. They were pitted real bad I wasn't expecting much back but was blown away at the high quality when I got them back. So yes possible but time consuming. Fill with bronze and sand smooth.

Cheers Dave

[sibhs]

Update. Went back and had a chat. Apparently it can be filled but may cause distortion which would then ruin the air cleaner. They will have a go at it but it fails they said if I find another air cleaner they will chrome that one. All no charge. I'm happy with their attitude so we'll wait and see.

[N/A-PWR]

So they should Marty,

 

Good on you for giving them another go.

[StephenSLR]

I think it is the copper on bare metal that causes corrosion after a while, that's why they put a coat of zinc (i think) on the metal

first, then copper, then chrome. 

 

Zinc plating is used to galvanise steel and protect it from the elements, as you see on tin roofs, etc.

 

Triple plating = copper, then nickel, then chrome.

 

 

Chrome plating is mainly expensive due to the labour involved; between each plating the parts have to be inspected and any defects smoothed out before the next plating is applied.

 

Triple Chrome Plating:

 

Questions to ask a chrome shop:

 

1. Do you use Copper, Nickel and Chrome in your triple-plated chrome?

 

Why it matters: To ensure long-lasting chrome parts, we first add one or more layers of copper to the raw (stripped) part. Because copper (Cu) is a non-ferrous material, it adds a layer of protection between the finishing layer and the part. In addition, the layer(s) of copper fill small scratches and pits (buffing between layers results in a smooth final chrome finish). When the copper layers are complete, we then add bright nickel plating followed by the chrome plating.

Not all chrome shops use copper. Many shops use nickel/nickel/chrome or just nickel/chrome (watch out) because it's a cheaper/faster process - that is NOT what we consider to be quality chrome plating. Ask them! (If they can't explain their process to you in plain English, beware…)

 

 

2. Do you use Hexavalent Chrome? (Chromates)

 

Why it matters: Hexavalent chrome has been shown to provide superior corrosion resistance over the lesser trivalent chrome. Not all chrome shops use hexavalent chromates in their process because they can't (due to EPA regulations).

Okay - so we admit, trivalent chromate is more 'green', and new chrome shops use that. But we've been here a long time (and yes, our shop meets the local regulations for using the good stuff (hexavalent chrome), and Ron will show you the costly receipts to prove it)

 

Those two questions will tell you plenty about the chrome shop and the quality of their work.

 

http://www.verneschr...me-plating.html

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 09 August 2014 - 01:31 PM.

[N/A-PWR]

Great Information Steve  ;

 

so who dares to Ask, Wins.

[sibhs]

Air cleaner re-chromed. Great job this time, very happy.

[TerrA LX]

So it wasn't all that hard to obtain a good finish the first time

[sibhs]

So Marty how did they fill the pits? Did they say....

I didn't ask, I was holding my breathe as they unwrapped it. Just happy.

[sibhs]

Pretty pis poor business ethic, "do it piss poor first time and hope they dont come back ,if they do do it properly the second time"


I see there future, it involves taxpayers paying there wage....
 
Cheers. 

I don't think so Bomber, sometimes to fix something you have to take a risk that could distroy the part. They didn't want to take that risk because they didn't know the value of it. Once they realised it's not the last one on earth they could take the extreme measure and it paid off. That's their excuse anyway. :-)