Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has delt with triple 45mm Mikuni carbs on a holden 6. Any comments, pro's or con's or otherwise. How they compare to SU's and Webbers etc.
Cheers,
Adam.
Posted 19 September 2016 - 11:24 AM
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone has delt with triple 45mm Mikuni carbs on a holden 6. Any comments, pro's or con's or otherwise. How they compare to SU's and Webbers etc.
Cheers,
Adam.
Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:03 PM
Great choice Adam,
I have spoken to Oldjohnno about the 45mm too,
but is said that the HSR-42 is the best option,
as they are a great deal more efficient and is plenty,
for 250cfm port flow.
Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:51 PM
I have the HSR-42s on mine. I have no complaints, throttles crisp, tuning was no problems once I realised they don't like a big balance tube in the manifold like SUs usually run. I blanked them off and the big flat spot I had at low speed went away using a Redline manifold.
My cam is a Crow 35626 and I still get 11l/100km on the highway (I do run a 5 speed with 3.08 gears however) and around 15L around town. Cold starting is fine without the choke.
Posted 19 September 2016 - 12:58 PM
Fantastic information Peter,
could we get a photo of what they look like on the manifold please?
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Posted 19 September 2016 - 02:06 PM
Posted 19 September 2016 - 02:42 PM
I have the HSR-42s on mine. I have no complaints, throttles crisp, tuning was no problems once I realised they don't like a big balance tube in the manifold like SUs usually run. I blanked them off and the big flat spot I had at low speed went away using a Redline manifold.
My cam is a Crow 35626 and I still get 11l/100km on the highway (I do run a 5 speed with 3.08 gears however) and around 15L around town. Cold starting is fine without the choke.
pics or it doesn't exist lol
Posted 19 September 2016 - 05:59 PM
Be careful - these flow MUCH MUCH more than the equivalent Weber so be very careful not to over-carb your engine. As Peter said you don't want any interconnection between carbs and you want to keep runner volume low; definitely no plenum. And they'll tolerate quite a lot of cam and still remain civil.
Posted 19 September 2016 - 06:26 PM
Don't overlook Keihins FCR range - with sizes from 33 to 41 these are probably going to be a better match for street/strip cars.
Posted 19 September 2016 - 08:47 PM
Keihins FCR,
thanks Oldjohnno.
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now goes and find prices to compare to HSR
Posted 19 September 2016 - 09:48 PM
As much as I like the HSRs and FCRs I have to say that for any hot street engine I wouldn't even consider anything other than 2" SUs. The old fossils flow much better than you'd expect at WOT, needles are readily available (so there's no excuse for a poor tune) and on a HP per dollar basis they can't be beat. For a maximum effort race engine the HSR's would have a small advantage but on the street a set of unmolested SUs would still be my first choice.
Posted 20 September 2016 - 06:21 AM
As much as I like the HSRs and FCRs I have to say that for any hot street engine I wouldn't even consider anything other than 2" SUs. The old fossils flow much better than you'd expect at WOT, needles are readily available (so there's no excuse for a poor tune) and on a HP per dollar basis they can't be beat. For a maximum effort race engine the HSR's would have a small advantage but on the street a set of unmolested SUs would still be my first choice.
I am planning on putting on my set of HS8s in the next few weeks to test back to back against my 45DCOE webers. I will be tuning with my Innovate LM-2 wideband/data logger .
I rebuilt the 2 inch SUs and put in UP needles, .125 jet... so hopefully they are close...
Posted 20 September 2016 - 01:07 PM
I'll post some photos when I get home
Posted 20 September 2016 - 10:09 PM
Very neat set-up Peter,
thank-you very much, most appreciated Mate.
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Posted 21 September 2016 - 06:41 AM
They look great...
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Posted 21 September 2016 - 07:30 PM
peter what manifold did you use any on top shots , it looks like a simple set up
Posted 21 September 2016 - 07:34 PM
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Posted 22 September 2016 - 01:03 PM
As above it's a Redline manifold, I was going to use an old Cain or Armors setup but I couldn't find one when I was looking and the Redline seemed all that was available at the time. Besides the drop in flow through that kink would be minor at best. I actually spoke to Ian Tate about it before I bought one and he uses them and has no issue.
The setup is pretty simple, the place I bought them from extends the throttle shafts so they can be joined with a solid shaft (8mm from memory) using rod clamps. The throttle cable is the standard one and connects to the carbs with a clamp on mount onto the throttle connecting shaft and the cable sheath mount is a simple bracket made up.
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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:22 PM
They use these fittings JamesSo do these use a Stromberg /SU bolt pattern to mount them?
It's good to see someone doing something different for a change.
Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:26 PM
Edited by madtoranajzedded, 22 September 2016 - 07:27 PM.
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