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[madtoranajzedded]

Hi .gents looking to purchase a dent puller
spotwelder or just a dent puller.bit uncertain
which one to get whether it would b a waste of
money getting a combo or not..only have 3
dents to get out with one bit stronger in
the area than others.ive been looking at
Melomotive puller that uses pins and can use
my lincoln welder which is 188 bucks but
bit uncertain if i will pull pins off the
panel making holes other dents i reckon it
will work ok..what do you guys reccommend.
A combo that uses stars washes?? Pics of
dents and melomotive dent puller
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Cheers maz

[grumpy xu1]

Yeah, nothing wrong with the pin style, I've used them probably hundreds of times. I personally think that they're better than the washer style myself, but both are useful. Gary.

[madtoranajzedded]

Cool.i purchased that eastwood slide hammer
above..I had to first checkout the tweco
nozzles were the same as the lincoln style
magnum torches,as the nozzle designed in
this kit was to work with tweco torch.and
apparently they do as have same m10 thread..

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 02 December 2017 - 01:13 PM.

[TerrA LX]

Im I missing out on some new tech here, do these spot on with a mig welder?

[Rockoz]

New tech?

Been around for 30 years or more.

The ones I have played with are a seperate unit.

About half the size of an inverter welder.

My mate used them to do spot welding too but unsure of how well that went.

[sibhs]

I'd love something that works of my Mig or Arc.   I've seen the pin system used on my 4WD and thought it awesome.

 

If you get this sorted Maz put up some pics and your thoughts on the tool.  

 

Cheers

 

Marty

[TerrA LX]

New tech?

Been around for 30 years or more.

The ones I have played with are a seperate unit.

About half the size of an inverter welder.

My mate used them to do spot welding too but unsure of how well that went.

 

Used easy out for years myself, I just confirming if you guys are talking about a system that adapts a mig welder>
I myself have been mig spotting washers on panels.
 

[madtoranajzedded]

Ive never ever seen a slide hammer in action

I gather i could make or buy a hook fitting
for washers.wouldnt mind a couple hooks
spreading the load actually bringing the panel out more evenly..

Hi Marty ..yeah ill throw some up and see how
i go...should b fun.

Gone where no maz has gone before 😂.
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Edited by madtoranajzedded, 05 December 2017 - 02:26 PM.

[Rockoz]

Used easy out for years myself, I just confirming if you guys are talking about a system that adapts a mig welder>
I myself have been mig spotting washers on panels.
 

 

 

If that works with a mig then Im impressed too.

Would love to add that to my collection if it does and works.

[grumpy xu1]

You can buy pin pullers in Australia for under $300, with the pins & slide hammer all in 1 kit, no need to make up your own gear, the washers use an attachment that goes on a slide hammer & it has fingers that go into the washers, basically you have to spot them all in a place to which the fingers can grab them, so essentially the pins are a better design, once you get used to them, you'll work out what way works best. It's fairly simple, you'll see the results in front of you, spot time is the main thing to work out, Gary.

[madtoranajzedded]

Yeah my eastwood slider was 188 bills with
100 2mm pins from melomotive in NSW..

They have quite abit of eastwood aerosols on
there site and other good gear aswell..

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 06 December 2017 - 10:51 PM.

[TerrA LX]

Used many dent puller systems over the last 25years, including easy out, which I love, this system directly spot welds  a washer on with no need for a welder of any kind.

 

Sorry, Im still a bit confused just to clarify, does the system  discussed in this topic need a welder to spot weld pins on or does it adapt the mig welder to directly spot the pins on with no need for wire feed to form the welding process?

[madtoranajzedded]

Yeah you need a welder Terra as in pic above.

Its just a nozzle really that can b adapted

onto the mig torch that uses an M10 thread.

[Rockoz]

Yeah you need a welder Terra as in pic above.

Its just a nozzle really that can b adapted

onto the mig torch that uses an M10 thread.

 

 

 

So do you still feed wire or does it basically weld itself on?

Im really interested as I have a motor bike tank that I need to get a nice dent out of.

Where are they available? evilbay?
 

[madtoranajzedded]

Still feed wire that welds pin to panel.

I just put this on earlier.it has 3 grub
screws .1 for pin holder branch,the other 2
tp secure the stud welding nozzle to gun
nozzle.i did think before i purchased that
you take the gun nozzle off then screw this
one on hence me saying about it suits mig
nozzle with m10 thread.....anyway.you put
nozzle on and set to required depth then
fasten it.you then insert a pin then rest
nozzle on panel at 45 deg angle.wind the grub
screw in till the pin touches panel ,then its
set to go. You could just make the nozzle
rockoz if you have the slide hammer..

Melomotive has them .it comes as a package
under mig stud welding kit .
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Edited by madtoranajzedded, 08 December 2017 - 10:45 PM.

[madtoranajzedded]

hey MaZ jump on you tube and do a search for LX Torana Restoration part 7 from KIONAROXIEDOG he uses a cool pin style thingy mo gig to weld the pins on

Hi grant yeah thats a stud gun bro.can get
these on gaybay from 260 up to 700 odd .
Was looking at the vevor 3500 230v for 520
bills but only have 3 4 dents to do.if i
wasnt on a budget id get this one only thing
was it doesnt have correct socket plug to
suit our power points.i asked a fella on one
and thats what he said.also mentioned its as
good as the 1500 one he has in workshop.other than that looks the goods..

[Rockoz]

We used to use an easy beat. Simply disconnect the battery, clamp on the earth, stick a pull ring in the hand piece and as soon as you touched the pull ring, in the hand piece, it welded it on the panel, slide hammer, when finished simply snap off the pull ring and file. A long time ago now. Have a look on you tube 'how to fix a dent in a motorcycle fuel tank'. especially the bloke who wires up the good old 240 volts to weld coat hangers bits for a slide hammer.

 

 

Might have to look that up.

As an electrician I could call it research. lol.

Have seen some crazy stuff that people have set up to overcome lack of proper equipment.

[Rockoz]

For not a huge amount more you can buy a kit with the spot weld gun as well.

[grumpy xu1]

For not a huge amount more you can buy a kit with the spot weld gun as well.

That's what I'd be doing myself mate. Gary

[madtoranajzedded]

Def will do the job.had abit of play on old
panel and they def not going to pull pin out
It doesnt weld in centre though.weld is 3/4 in front of pin.pin slide hammers arnt all that crash.they eventually slip off and dent in
panel hardly flinched.these old car panels are pretty strong not like modern panels..need to grind slots on ea side of shaft so i can put small shifter on there and then use slide
hammer weight on bottom part that holds pin
to tighten better..

Might try on the 4dr tomorrow and see how i
go.

Edited by madtoranajzedded, 13 December 2017 - 01:55 AM.

[madtoranajzedded]

Well i had a go welding pins on and got dent
out of sill ok .it worked but very frustrating
when all pins broke within 10 pulls of slide hammer.and i wasnt reefing on it hard. put
same amount back on and all broke again .3
lots lol..those pins are weak as piss..

Def washers would work waaay better,at
least they wont break.i think i should of
bought the vevor 3500 for 520 that takes star
washers.theres no way the pins will pull out
that dent in my bumper area

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Edited by madtoranajzedded, 15 December 2017 - 10:12 PM.

[Rockoz]

Spot welding with the proper tool would be stronger. The weakest point is next to the weld which shows perfectly in the photo. My mate had an easy beat that I played with and watched him use. The trick was lots of light pulls moving along the dent. Hard pulls broke the pins off quickly. I watched him pull some pretty bad dents out without too many pins coming off.