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[StephenSLR]

Spotted this online, thought I'd share.

 

 

 

 

 

 

More pics and story here:

 

https://www.tradeuni...cars_newsletter

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 09 January 2018 - 08:31 AM.

[Shiney005]

They have completely missed the HT GTS. A mate of mine has nine of them. The average price he paid about ten years ago would be around $20,000 and they are all in good nick.  Apart from the vinyl roof they are exactly the same as the Australian model. 

 

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[Dr Terry]

  Apart from the vinyl roof they are exactly the same as the Australian model. 

There are a few small differences, the 308 is badged 5-Litre (like an HK 307) & I think the speedos might be metric as well.

 

Also like all SA cars they got the front white reflectors & the rear red reflectors added.

 

Dr Terry

[StephenSLR]

They have completely missed the HT GTS. A mate of mine has nine of them.

 

My guess is they didn't find your mate in time for the article, otherwise would've included him in the story, lol.

 

Nice cars he has

 

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[Bigfella237]

I thought I read somewhere that it was nearly impossible to get anything of value out of SA? Don't they have strict export restrictions or something like that?

[Shiney005]

It was probably 10 years ago that he got them Andrew. Had a fellow over there looking for him. He had no trouble exporting them back then. He bought a GT as well. I am driving through the big smoke on Friday, so I'll stop in and get some pics if he isn't offshore. 

[Shiney005]

There are a few small differences, the 308 is badged 5-Litre (like an HK 307) & I think the speedos might be metric as well.

 

Also like all SA cars they got the front white reflectors & the rear red reflectors added.

 

Dr Terry

I always thought it was a bit weird with the HGs having the indicators in the front guards as well as under the bumper.

[Dr Terry]

I always thought it was a bit weird with the HGs having the indicators in the front guards as well as under the bumper.

I think you'll find that one is used as the parking light, while the other is the indicator.

 

Dr Terry

[Ice]

Looks like a Ford Fairlane front end not Monaro at all

[StephenSLR]

They have completely missed the HT GTS. A mate of mine has nine of them.

 

Did he change the lettering and grille from Chevrolet and SS respectively, over to HT or did he import them like that?

 

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Edited by StephenSLR, 09 January 2018 - 08:49 PM.

[S pack]

Did he change the lettering and grille from Chevrolet and SS respectively, over to HT or did he import them like that?

 

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AFAIK the Holden HT Monaro 308 GTS was exported and sold in S.A as a Holden Monaro GTS whereas the Chevrolet SS was assembled in S.A and fitted with a Chev drivetrain.

 

[Dr Terry]

^^^^ Correct

 

Also AFAIK the Chevs & the Holdens were sold side by side for several years in SA, but thought different dealership networks.

 

In similar fashion to the USA, where Pontaic, Chev, Buick etc. all had separate networks, in SA they had one lot selling say Chev & Vauxhall, while the other sold Opel & Holden etc.

 

They sold Holdens (both fully imported & locally assembled) from FB to HT (& maybe HG) & they sold Chevs from HK to HJ.

 

Another thing I noticed about the SA assembled HK/T/G cars is that the front & rear bumpers are 2-piece, they have a joint in the middle.

 

Dr Terry

[StephenSLR]

Response from another forum I posted to:

 

The article mentions the utes went over as El Camino's; heres one back living in Toowoomba

 

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[Redslur]

With the way prices for the Australian built items go for, a good SA car would be worth considering....

[StephenSLR]

With the way prices for the Australian built items go for, a good SA car would be worth considering....

 

Absolutely and its rarity here will always be a talking point; a head turner too if left with orig. Chev. livery

 

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[Shiney005]

I don't understand why they are valued so much less than the Aussie ones. Especially the XY GT Falcons.

[StephenSLR]

I don't understand why they are valued so much less than the Aussie ones. Especially the XY GT Falcons.

 

How much less exactly?

 

I agree and would understand if they were LHD or glaringly different.

 

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[Shiney005]

The Aussie ones are going for $80,000 to $200,000.

 

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[StephenSLR]

The Aussie ones are going for $80,000 to $200,000.

 

Ah, it'd be the word Fairmont, although a prestigious version, the Falcon is where the money is in Aus.

 

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[StephenSLR]

From the article:

 

The Ford story in 1971 was similar after a unique South African version of the XY Falcon GT was launched as the Fairmont GT supplemented by an XY ute rebadged as a Ranchero. This followed a toe in the water exercise with the XW series.

 

Because the Aussie Falcon GT had an anti-establishment larrikin quality, it was toned down for the white South African market. The budget Falcon name was discarded for Fairmont, the Super Roo decal disappeared, the five slot sports wheels were replaced by steel units with the full wheel covers of the XR-XT GT and most were automatics with vinyl roofs.

 

Trim was a pleated button style, similar to the Australian Futura, headlining was changed from black to white and the dash lost its fake wood grain and extra padding. Instruments featured metric scales several years before Australia made the switch. Extra reflectors were added front and rear.

Ford neatly diverted the imported Cleveland 4V powertrain straight to South Africa to avoid duty complications and the Australian 54H body shell was despatched partially assembled. Hence the engine and body ID were not linked as they were in Australia.

 

At some point, Ford of South Africa (FMCSA) attached the front section to the rest of the body adding an extra weld near the strut tower either as part of the assembly process or to add extra strength or both. It is believed around 1500 were produced and most worked hard pulling vans and boats. Some were raced.

 

I guess it's all these little things that the Aus. buyer is fussy about.

 

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[CI 0308]

I saw this one in Tassie a couple of weeks ago. Id guess someone has a SA import Monaro and has done a front end swap. I like the look as its different.

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[StephenSLR]

I saw this one in Tassie a couple of weeks ago.

 

That does look weird ... and I like it.

 

lol

 

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[Shiney005]

It looks great!

[Redslur]

I agree...................

[skywalker]

I prefer the look of the 60's Chevelle front