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Posted 26 February 2006 - 04:52 PM

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Posted 26 February 2006 - 05:36 PM

like my avatar :spoton: And here are mine and my dad's carswww.photobucket.com

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Posted 26 February 2006 - 07:59 PM

Hi G-Pak,
That's a really sensible buy. Look forward to seeing it at some car shows. Canberra's not to far away. You will get much interest with your car if you can keep it original. If you have any impure thoughts about modifying it then go speak with Barry. He will send you back on the straight and narrow. :spoton: Good luck with whatever you choose to do. :D

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 12:49 PM

So what you are saying Dr. Terry is that there is basically no way of telling whether it was originally a G-Pak because some of the tell tale things like front brakes etc. are long gone.

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 05:04 PM

Coming home from Toowoomba yesterday I passed a really neat yellow G pack parked on the side of the road on James street - looked really clean and original but I would have had to hang a u-ey and get the camera out of the back of the hatch so sorry no pics.

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 10:21 PM

Heya G-Pak, welcome aboard. Yup, love the AVTAR. We met up in Cooma at the motor show.

With those spotlights, were they mounted on the bumper, chrome, and have chrome mesh across the front of em? If so, they is original Holden accessories, don't be throwing them out. Think I still have a set as well under dad's house. Yup they look stupid, but original dealer fitted equipment available as an optional extra.

You got a pic of em?

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 07:00 AM

They were not original and there was only one on the left hand side

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 09:15 PM

Does anyone know how many g-pak's were made and why these cars were made

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 06:18 AM

G pak was GEAR PAK, (refered to garbage pak by the dealers at the time) Many people were optioning their cars in this fashion anyway, so by buying a G PAK you saved a few hundred bucks. No idea how many were made, but I remember them being very common at the time, but now, they are very thin on the ground, like anything really. I was discussing this with a mate the other day. I remember when SLR5000's were parked on nearly every corner, they were very common, now you rarely see them.

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Posted 15 March 2006 - 07:12 PM

^ and doing laps around the main. I used to sit and watch the LJ's and SL/R 5000's with jelly bean mags and flared guards while I waited for the school bus every morning. Oh the memories.

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Posted 31 August 2006 - 07:29 PM

Hi Guys.

The stripe colour for a Jamaica Lime G-Pak is Jade Green Met. (15945).

The other 2 coloured G-Pak are as follows.

The Absinth Yellow G-Pak has Tuxedo Black (15991) stripes & the Mandarin Red cars have Casino Blue (17297) stripes.

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Posted 31 August 2006 - 07:58 PM

Coming home from Toowoomba yesterday I passed a really neat yellow G pack parked on the side of the road on James street - looked really clean and original but I would have had to hang a u-ey and get the camera out of the back of the hatch so sorry no pics.

Was that near the hospital ? There used to always be one there for years ...

This thread was an excellent read, glad you "bumped" it Toranavista.

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Posted 03 September 2006 - 10:48 PM

G pak was GEAR PAK, (refered to garbage pak by the dealers at the time) Many people were optioning their cars in this fashion anyway, so by buying a G PAK you saved a few hundred bucks. No idea how many were made, but I remember them being very common at the time, but now, they are very thin on the ground, like anything really. I was discussing this with a mate the other day. I remember when SLR5000's were parked on nearly every corner, they were very common, now you rarely see them.

I don't mean to be rude. But when the G-pak came out it was dearer than the SLR 5000. And you say that SLR 5000 numbers are thin. I have been to many car shows and have only seen one other than my own at the muscle car masters 06. I counted 40 SLR 5000's. I think the G-pak is just not aswell known as the SLR 5000 that is why people discredit it.

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 10:28 PM

How would a 6cyl car be dearer than a 5lt???

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 10:38 PM

I think you will find a lot of Toranas are G-Paks, but they've been resprayed and/or modified a bit and no one recognizes them as being G-Paks.

And yes, the G-Pak is just an SL with all the nice options (black interior, SL/R cluster, 202, manual) etc - literally everything I would have chosen (and what i have in my car now :P), but the SL/R had all that stuff anyway (along with the badging and insignia), so it could not have been more expensive than the SL/R... let-alone the L31!

What makes you say that, G-PAK?

Edited by Heath, 04 September 2006 - 10:38 PM.


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Posted 05 September 2006 - 09:32 AM

Hi Guys.

I'm with MRNOS & Heath on this one. I don't have the actual prices at my fingertips (I will get them though), but the whole idea of the G-Pak was as a packaged price special. Like Vacationers (& more recently Equipes & Luminas etc) the G-Pak had the commonly optioned items fitted to a Torana 'S' at a price cheaper than you could normally buy them at.

The G-Pak was around the price of an SL, cheaper than a 6 cyl SL/R & certainly much cheaper than an SL/R 5000.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 09:04 AM

G pak was GEAR PAK,  (refered to garbage pak by the dealers at the time) Many people were optioning their cars in this fashion anyway, so by buying a G PAK you saved a few hundred bucks. No idea how many were made, but I remember them being very common at the time, but now, they are very thin on the ground, like anything really. I was discussing this with a mate the other day. I remember when SLR5000's were parked on nearly every corner, they were very common, now you rarely see them.

I don't mean to be rude. But when the G-pak came out it was dearer than the SLR 5000. And you say that SLR 5000 numbers are thin. I have been to many car shows and have only seen one other than my own at the muscle car masters 06. I counted 40 SLR 5000's. I think the G-pak is just not aswell known as the SLR 5000 that is why people discredit it.

Regards Hicksey

The GPAC certainly was not more expensive than the SLR5000, that much I can tell you for sure, if it was, we would have bought an SLR5000 new rather than a GPAC as we were towing a boat every weekend. As I said, Holden at the time found lots of buyers were optioning their S and SL Toranas with some of the SLR options like the full instrumentation and front disc brakes. Holden decided to make the GPAC and this way, people could get these options as part of the package without having to step up to the SLR which was quite a bit more money, not to mention the SLR5000. I would seriously doubt you counted 40 SLR5000's at any car show these days, but there are plenty of replicas out there. On that note, I did say the GPAC and SLR 5000 were common at the time (like an S pack and SS Commodore today) , but now they are very thin on the ground. Most GPACS were modified and you wouldn't pic them thee days as most would have had the stripes removed. Most SLR5000's just had flares fitted, but retained some of the SLR caractoristics and the all important tags, however, the GPAC has no real way to identify it. If you think I was putting the GPAC down you are wrong. I remember the day we sold ours as a very sad day.

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 05:26 PM

Sorry if I made you sound bad. That wasn't my intension. I was just stating what I have seen. And I saw 14 not 40 typo from me

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 05:37 PM

Here are the prices:
Torana S 2850cc, $3,205.
Torana SL/R 5000, $4,415.
G-Pak, $4,983.
Plus 4, $4,525.
L34, $6,609.
If you don't believe me go to http://www.nswtorana...ications/lh.htm

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 05:59 PM

The problem is that with any information you are given you need to identify the source. You would have to say a website without a specific author or reference to the infomation provided is questionable. The G Pak would not have been dearer than the SLR 5000. You will find info on all of the Torana sites which are wrong. Just try to verify the info from a couple of different sources. Same goes for the old magazines. The is much poetic licence. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story :D

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 07:17 PM

Hi Guys.

Those figures are taken out of context. The reason they look wrong is that in 1974-75 we had horendous inflation, probably the worst in our history (thank you Mr Whitlam).

All of these prices have been taken at the time of each version's release. Problem is during the period of the LH model run the price of an SL/R5000, for instance went from around $4000 to over $6000 (in less than 2 years).

There were 2 releases of the G-Pak, identical in spec. The 1st was in Feb 75 & it priced at $3888, when it was re-released in Nov of the same year it was $4988. Is that inflation, or what.

So, when you compare prices, they must be at the same time. The simple facts are than an SL/R5000 was always the most expensive model in the LH range at any given time (exc for the L34, which is only an option pack on top of an SL/R5000 anyway)

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 07:19 PM

Here are the prices:
Torana S 2850cc, $3,205.
Torana SL/R 5000, $4,415.
G-Pak, $4,983.
Plus 4, $4,525.
L34, $6,609.
If you don't believe me go to http://www.nswtorana...ications/lh.htm

Just because it's on a website does not make it true. The SLR5000 was the top of the tree before the L34 came along. Honestly, do you believe a 6cylinder with some basic additions and stripes was more expensive than the SLR5000? I mean come on, even the PLUS 4 is listed there as being more expensive than an SLR5000. I don't think so. As Terry says too, the prices have not been posted from the same period of time.

Edited by REDA9X, 08 September 2006 - 07:20 PM.


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Posted 09 September 2006 - 09:02 AM

Hi Guys.

I thought those figures looked familiar. They're mine, out of my book.

As I said they are taken out of context. The heading above those prices reads "Prices At Release"

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Posted 10 September 2006 - 11:32 PM

Just a little addition to the 40 or even 14 SLR5000's at a particular show,(I'am not saying you are wrong as I was not there just making a point).
One of my mates was adamant that LX SLR5000's like mine where all over the place and as common as, right up until he and I attended a large car show I asked him to show me the thousands of LX SLR5000's!! of the approx 15 he showed me 3 were genuine original LX SLR5000 the rest were mock ups, very nice ones but still not genuine. He like a lot of people see the decals and thats it it's a SLR5000. He now tells his mates about my rare and original car and how original ones don't have flares.
So really what I am saying is be careful about quoting numbers af any car unless you are certain and have viewed the tags and know how to ID a particular car.

OH and by the way my old man bought a G-PAK brand new, I asked him why? He said because he could not afford the 5000 that he really wanted.

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 12:41 PM

Here's a pic of Drewboy's G-PAK from 1982.
(Cost $4,500 in '82, sold for $4,500 in '85)

Note the UC beside it, bought in 1980 12 mths old!!

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You'll have to excuse the pic quality.....was taken on a box brownie I think!!!!!




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