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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:41 AM

byron,yes i have owned my car which is 9/72 car fitted with factory sprintmaster rims for 30 years i am the second owner,i have PSNs,chassis numbers,block numbers with casting dates and broadcast  sheets.have the information on around 70 cars august/september cars built at adelaide.All svo9804 spintmaster cars received the sprinty,s at the factory from 775A to 925A with 50 GTR,s in between will not get into which one,s on forum but say half are 2/2V and half are 2/2V 4/4V. my sheet



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:13 AM

The Self Locating Sprintmaster Wheels were built on the 6/1972, yet they don't go on any LJ XU-1 for sale in the 6/1972, only show up on LJ XU-1's from the 8/1972, and CAMS Homo for the Self Locating Sprintmaster Wheels is on the 8/1972  mmmmmmm

I think its a safe bet the 200 LJ XU-1's that got the Self Locating Sprintmaster Wheels started on the 8/1972 without a doubt.

 

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:33 AM

Hi al,second week of august 72 or from JP200### and most of the cars adelaide went to big dealers melbourne for example :southern motors,reg hunt,preston motors all branches,bill patterson,dustings holden,kevin dennis and campbell motors.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:54 AM

Anthony, how come your original broadcast sheet above is different to the one in Norm's book? It is the same car, but the sheet detail below is very different (not the same car).

 

I have a broadcast sheet for L215342 completed 25/9 (but predicted completion of 18/9) and it doesn't indicate Sprintmasters, nor does the car on page 130 of Norm's book with the top half of Crabba's build sheet detail on it. So either the 200 cars were completed by 25/9 or not every consecutively completed XU-1 got them as stated by ck1971. Its broadcast sheet was issued on 30/8 though which is outside the range stated by Crabba on the previous page of this thread for cars to get the wheels.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 12:12 PM

same sheet norm just photocopy my original sheet at home,in regards to L215342 it is a 5/5 v car has 5/5v did'nt require sprintmasters.only the 2/2v and 4/4v cars requiring sprintmaster.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:12 PM

It isn't the same sheet, car details below do not match the header. The top bit is off your sheet the bottom bit is from another car altogether. Your sheet above does all fit together fine.

 

I figured that was the case for L215342.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:57 PM

I have a broadcast sheet for L215342 completed 25/9 (but predicted completion of 18/9) and it doesn't indicate Sprintmasters, nor does the car on page 130 of Norm's book with the top half of Crabba's build sheet detail on it. So either the 200 cars were completed by 25/9 or not every consecutively completed XU-1 got them as stated by ck1971. Its broadcast sheet was issued on 30/8 though which is outside the range stated by Crabba on the previous page of this thread for cars to get the wheels.

 The 2 8th month 72 XU-1s I saw were produced on the 10th (with nibless) and the 14th (with 5 Sprintmasters) of August, so what Crabba is saying would fit with those cars unless I'm reading it wrong.

 

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 03:45 PM

ck1971, spot on



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:17 PM

Every XU-1 Torana ever built has a story to tell...

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:44 PM

yel 327,you are right only the top half of broadcast sheet is mine in norm,s book and i am  NOT HAPPY..



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:44 PM

I've heard from people who took delivery of some of these cars new, they told me the Sprintmasters were in the boot and not the car. I wonder if in some cases someone at the dealerships didn't snaffle them?


Geez wouldn't it be a tight fit putting 5 Sprintmasters and tyres into the boot of an XU-1.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:56 PM

It was just rims I heard about, not tyres. Not sure what or how they were meant to end up on the car. Was it a case of the same as Ford giving away Globes so they could race with them?

 

Crabba, Norm may have made a mistake, i'd ask him first. Although if someone thought hard enough they would probably identify your car from the information visible on the build sheet, the actual identity of the car is covered so probably no major harm done. I only asked you because it made no sense to me as they are obviously different, it is impossible for the bottom half to belong to the top.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:00 PM

Interesting, anyone care to throw up a pic of the broadcast sheet from Torana tough ?

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:15 PM

Ok here's what I can make of the info that Crabba has provided please correct me if I've got it wrong. There was a run of 100 XU-1s half of these were 2/2V (Sprintmasters) and half 2/2V, 4/4V (Sprintmasters & revised track) starting in the second week of August and produced at the Adelaide plant, these cars were separate from the 5/5V cars which came later and didn't have the 2/2V or 4/4V bits (Sprintmasters & revised track).

So this leads me to the conclusion the 72 Bathurst Special came in 3 variations;

1: with 5 Sprintmaster wheels
2: with 5 Sprintmaster wheels and the revised track
3: with the Coil Spring, Camshaft and Flywheel revision (whether the flywheel was fitted to these cars is debatable)

Crabba do you have any details on the Brisbane cars?

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:23 PM

It was just rims I heard about, not tyres. Not sure what or how they were meant to end up on the car. Was it a case of the same as Ford giving away Globes so they could race with them?


Looking at Crabba's Broadcast Sheet they were fitted on the production line, maybe some may have been put in the boot if the wheels were not on hand as the car went down the line.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 07:37 PM

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Ok here's what I can make of the info that Crabba has provided please correct me if I've got it wrong. There was a run of 100 XU-1s half of these were 2/2V (Sprintmasters) and half 2/2V, 4/4V (Sprintmasters & revised track) starting in the second week of August and produced at the Adelaide plant, these cars were separate from the 5/5V cars which came later and didn't have the 2/2V or 4/4V bits (Sprintmasters & revised track).5/5 v cars were before and after the svo cars

So this leads me to the conclusion the 72 Bathurst Special came in 3 variations;

1: with 5 Sprintmaster wheels
2: with 5 Sprintmaster wheels and the revised track
3: with the Coil Spring, Camshaft and Flywheel revision (whether the flywheel was fitted to these cars is debatable)no proof of coil springs,xj cam,or flywheel ,but have information on the 100  cars with 3 ;55 diff that i can pin point !

Crabba do you have any details on the Brisbane cars? they were the same

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 07:38 PM

Ok here's what I can make of the info that Crabba has provided please correct me if I've got it wrong. There was a run of 100 XU-1s half of these were 2/2V (Sprintmasters) and half 2/2V, 4/4V (Sprintmasters & revised track) starting in the second week of August and produced at the Adelaide plant, these cars were separate from the 5/5V cars which came later and didn't have the 2/2V or 4/4V bits (Sprintmasters & revised track).

So this leads me to the conclusion the 72 Bathurst Special came in 3 variations;

1: with 5 Sprintmaster wheels
2: with 5 Sprintmaster wheels and the revised track
3: with the Coil Spring, Camshaft and Flywheel revision (whether the flywheel was fitted to these cars is debatable)

Crabba do you have any details on the Brisbane cars?

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In your list 1 (2/2v cars) & 2 (2/2V + 4/4V cars) are identical. Wheels and track are the same. 3 wheel spacers on each front wheel and one spacer on each rear wheel.

There was no physical change to the cars, 4/4V was simply an ERRATA to correct a reporting error in 2/2V.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 07:59 PM

dave,read page160 of fiv book!



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 08:21 PM

dave,read page160 of fiv book!

Anthony, learn what the word ERRATA means.

 

4/4V clearly states that 2/2V was in error.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 08:40 PM

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In your list 1 (2/2v cars) & 2 (2/2V + 4/4V cars) are identical. Wheels and track are the same. 3 wheel spacers on each front wheel and one spacer on each rear wheel.

There was no physical change to the cars, 4/4V was simply an ERRATA to correct a reporting error in 2/2V.

 I know of one August 72 XU-1 (14-8-72) with the 5 Sprintmaster wheels but no extra spacers front or rear it's a Brisbane car and it's 1 owner. So there might have been some cars that are just 2/2V.

 

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 08:48 PM

 I know of one August 72 XU-1 (14-8-72) with the 5 Sprintmaster wheels but no extra spacers front or rear it's a Brisbane car and it's 1 owner. So there might have been some cars that are just 2/2V.

 

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The wheel spacers were not a new addition with the sprintmasters. LJ XU1's (with steel rims) built before the introduction of the sprintmasters had 3 spacers on each front wheel and one on each rear wheel.

 

Wheel spacers are an easy item to remove.


Edited by S pack, 28 February 2014 - 08:50 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:15 PM

dave,learn what the word "amendment means"its new amendment.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:22 PM

Interesting, anyone care to throw up a pic of the broadcast sheet from Torana tough ?


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:55 PM

dave,learn what the word "amendment means"its new amendment.

So, The CAMS put 4/4V (ERRATA) on an amendment form but it is still an ERRATA and it still states Amendment 2/2V in error, disregard NOTE...............



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 10:00 PM

 The start of the Sprinty's is the Second week of Aug 1972, well that's the start of the 200 Special Cars then, and these 200 Cars would of rolled into Sept 1972.






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