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[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

Up until the first homologation 6/6V which became effective on 15-6-1973 Holden had produced a total of 500 1973 LJ GTR XU-1,s. These 500 cars had been produced for one purpose. ^^^^^^^^^^^ 
1972 Bathurst specials ( No ) 1973 Group C specials ( Yes ).
I suppose the question can be asked as to weather a standard 1972 LJ GTR XU-1 fitted with either a Borg Warner Limited Slip or Sprintmasters can be classed as a 1972 Bathurst special. If we can class these cars as Bathurst specials then yes there certainly was more than 200 produced ?

How can a 1973 car be a 1972 car ? (Same spec, Yes)
Greg that 73 Bathurst car thing, I,ve put in the (TO HARD) basket. I think the 72 Bathurst car thing may be heading towards the same basket (TO HARD) as well !

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

FRIDAY JUNE 30 - Holden pulls the plug on the V8 XU-2 programme.

SATURDAY JULY 1 - Homologation 1/1V (Detroit locker or Borg Warner LSD) Though accepted by C.A.M.S. was never used.

JULY - (8 cars are produced).

THURSDAY AUGUST 10 - Homologation 2/2V (Sprintmasters)(Optional)
Batch 1 (200 cars)

FRIDAY AUGUST 11 - The 100th car rolls off the production lines.

TUESDAY AUGUST 29 - Homologation 5/5V (XH cam, Lightened Flywheel, Heavy duty springs, 3.55 diff ratio (Optional).
Batch 2 (300 cars)

WEDNESDAY AUGUST 30 - The last 2 (Batch 1) Homologation 2/2V (Bathurst) cars roll off the production lines.
82911JH246466 (Brisbane)
82911JL213537 (Adelaide) 200 in total.

THURSDAY AUGUST 31 - No cars are produced.

FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 1 - The first of the (Batch 2) Homologation 5/5V (Bathurst) cars start rolling off the production lines.

FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 29 - The last 2 (Batch 2) Homologation 5/5V (Bathurst) cars are finished off.
82911JH250431 (Brisbane)
82911JL251993 (Adelaide) 300 in total.
The last VIN numbers recorded for September built cars are :
82911JH250431 (Brisbane)
82911JL215996 (Adelaide)

SUNDAY OCTOBER 1 - Peter Brock and HDT defeat the Phase 3 Falcon. Peter Brocks first Bathurst victory.



JULY/AUGUST 200 (Batch 1) Homologation 2/2V
SEPTEMBER 300 (Batch 2) Homologation 5/5V


Are we there yet ?

Cheers, B.

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

THURSDAY AUGUST 31 - No cars are produced





Are we there yet ?

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

SOME LATE BREAKING NEWS !!!!

September 9/72

It appears that of the 300 cars produced in September 1972 only 200 cars were fitted with the XH Cam, Lightened Flywheel, Heavy Duty Springs (H252 Head ?). It is my belief (Theory) that engines fitted with the XH Cam ranged from JP216 to JP222 and were fitted with the H252 Head. The other 100 cars being fitted with the 3.55 Diff Ratio (E172 Head ?).
In order to achieve a bigger picture we will need as many owners of GENUINE, ORIGINAL September (9/72) built cars (with ORIGINAL running gear, maybe 10 left ?) or Forum Members with GENUINE, ORIGINAL parts (Blocks, Diff Centres) TAKING PART. One post per car or part please. (No Confushion)

Ill start the ball rolling & hopefully we will see a pattern starting to emerge !!!!!

INFO NEEDED

9/72 Build

Engine Number : JP221
Cast Date : 31H2 (31-8-1972)
Head 2815843 : -
Cast Date : -
Camshaft : -
Cast Date : -
Diff Ratio : -
Cast Date : -

Dont be shy

Cheers, B.

Edited by FLY_AGAIN_XU-1, 26 July 2007 - 03:36 PM.

[frash da bucket]

Bruce pm you cheers.

[Bathurst72]

Hi, my car has all matching numbers within a couple of months of the build date, like the dated heater box, heater fan motor, wiper motor, steering rack, gearbox, diff center and diff housing.

I did check once and did not write the numbers down, so I will attempt to get under and get numbers.

The JP is 212### and was cast on Monday, 11 H 2.

The car has been checked and verifed as a 9/72 Adelaide car. It only has 106000 on the clock. Previous owner purchased in 1982/3 and it only had 82000 on the clock then. I have had car for 3 years now

I am not sure of the cam/flywheel etc.

Car originally sold from dealer in March 1973, yes 1973. Not sure but possibly a demostrator car.

Sprinters have a cast date of early 1973. Possibly had steel wheels from factory, and dressed up to sell???????????

Is the build date (8/9/72) the start or the finish of the build?????????????

So my question is where does this fit into the big picture????????

Edited by Bathurst72, 31 July 2007 - 04:47 PM.

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

^^^ and I wonder where those VINS are now?...
R

Dick Johnson purchased 28C off Dennis Geary in 1975. Dick knows !




24C was scraped with only a few mechanical parts being salvaged.

How did i do R ?

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

On Monday 7-8-1972 Bondy,s & Brocky,s new cars were first registered. They were finished on Thursday 3-8-1972.

82911JL210097
82911JL210098

no thats wrong,bonds car was regoed on the 1st of sept 72(LGL443), brocks car was regoed on the 7th of sept 72(LGN347),both applications for registration were put in at fishermans bend police station. daz

28C making a pit stop in the 1972 Bathurst race ^^^
(Check out the rego label)






1971-2 ^^^



1972 ^^^





1973 ^^^ Colin Bond/George Sheppard Peter Lang/Warick Smith



1974 ^^^



1975 ^^^



27-8-1972 ^^^

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

I will leave this to Daz if he choses..nice try..but not even close.
R

Doh !

Wish i still owned LKW-111, had it for 15 years. (This was easily the hardest car i had to let go, STILL HURTS.) Im sure you know the feeling R

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

NZ car in Baroda Silver Mk2 stripped for resto.
Authenticated by NZ XU1 club and sold new here new.

  9/72 Build    ALJ 13015  #215999

Gidday Pete

We may of just got to the bottom of things here Pete !!!!! According to the vin disc L215999 was completed on the 10-10-1972. So the question i would like to ask is : Has your car got an Australian ADR tag and if so is it dated 09/72 ? If this is the case that would make L216000 the last Adelaide built 1972 Bathurst car thus eliminating July built cars. Also does your vin start with 82911 or 8D11P ?

I,ve asked many, many knowledgable people in reguards to the flywheel part number (7420116) and have drawn a blank. A Bathurst flywheel should weigh 19lb without the ring gear though i dought if the ring gear weighs 4lb. The only person i can think of to shed some light on this subject is DR TERRY.

Your help in this thread has been invaluable Pete (Thank you)

Cheers, B.

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

Hi, my car has all matching numbers within a couple of months of the build date, like the dated heater box, heater fan motor, wiper motor, steering rack, gearbox, diff center and diff housing.

I did check once and did not write the numbers down, so I will attempt to get under and get numbers.

The JP is 212### and was cast on Monday, 11 H 2.

The car has been checked and verifed as a 9/72 Adelaide car. It only has 106000 on the clock. Previous owner purchased in 1982/3 and it only had 82000 on the clock then. I have had car for 3 years now

I am not sure of the cam/flywheel etc.

Car originally sold from dealer in March 1973, yes 1973. Not sure but possibly a demostrator car.

Sprinters have a cast date of early 1973. Possibly had steel wheels from factory, and dressed up to sell???????????

Is the build date (8/9/72) the start or the finish of the build?????????????

So my question is where does this fit into the big picture????????

Gidday Steve

Good thing you never let go of that E172 head you,ve got as it appears that it is the correct head for your car.

Sprintmasters became optional on cars from August 1972 if the buyer was prepared to folk over the extra $125.00 for them.

It is my belief that the build date of a car is when it rolled off the production line completed.

As for the big picture of things you may just hold the key to this !!!!!!!

The answer may just lay in your diff centre providing it is the original centre fitted to the car when new.

Keep us informed !!!!!

Cheers, Bruce.

[FLY_AGAIN_XU-1]

Adam
The best i can come up with, mind you its from a 1/72 Brisbane built car and the spring is,nt that clear. Just dont go asking me if yours is a XU-2 shell or not. Maybe the myth of these cars being only built at the Adelaide plant were true. Sure would explain that muddled up spread sheet for cars built at the Adelaide plant in the months of August, September & October though ?

Were,s Bazza when you need him ?

What do you think Baz ?

B.

[Bazza]

Hi

Errm - what's the question again?

Bazza