124 replies to this topic

[arrimar]

would it be possible for those in the series against the way things are going to wear a coloured band across the windscreen and print out their own results page?
distribute flyers at meetings explaining why some cars have bright pink bands on the windscreen,tell the scrutineers and organisers its because somebodys missus has breast cancer.
sort of like a tear away group without the super league style antics.

if the "tear away " group sat out a year would it get any recognition?

[knoath]

I'd love to see a series production class (all Aussie)...like you said Rory, keep all orig brakes etc...the noise, the smell, would be pure bliss!!!

[A9X]

F@#$K Rory, tell us what's really on your mind.

You're right of course, but i don't know the answer.

Which is why i drive an STi and play with it in local club events, and am building my Hatch for Targa events.

Eventually, i will find a niche, but there is nothing out west as yet. The closest is the number of club events being run for modern 'sports' cars. Between these clubs, there is enough to keep me busy for a while.

Spoken to the condescending pricks at CAMS, there is no help there, they only recognise club stuff as an income stream, not a genuine grass roots base to build from.

They need a member shakeup, and there are too many people who are happy to whinge rather than riot.

Welby

[dattoman]

I'm right behind you when you start the local riot

[dattoman]

At least you have a choice of tracks

[A9X]

Soon Grasshopper, soon.

Collie is undergoing extensions and Bunbury Bullshit is having earthworks completed at the moment.

Welby

[dattoman]

Well we better stop talking about it and build some cars

[piquet]

just remember guys that none of the cars running in the bainte series are Historic log booked cars. As of Jan 1 2007 they moved from the 5th category( historic) to the 3rd category they are now effectively "historic" sports sedans.
if you are still comtemplating going Historic it is still available and affordable forget about the " biante Boys " they are not a poart of the historic movement

I speak with some qualification as I race a genuine LC XU 1 in the NC category

cheers
peter sneddon

[piquet]

just a bit of the history of the NC category

the NC regulations are a conglomerate of the Improved production regulations that were used in the period 1964 -1972. Over that time there were at least 3 sets of Imp Production regualations in force. In the period 1964-72 Improved Production was the "premier" touring car category in the Country. The Australian Touring car Championship was open to both IMP touring cars abd Series Production cars.

When it was mooted that a Historic category be opened up for cars beyond 1964 extensive consultation was done to get the regulations some where near right. I was on the Committee that did a lot of the ground work at the time.

Series production like you are advocating was considered and eventually ruled out for several reason not the least being where do you get all the various components 30 years down the track to run any car in the old series production trim.

Original spec brakes, clutches. pressure plates etc are not available. Original spec suspension bushes are also not available. Technology has moved on.
Do we really want to go back and rece 5 inch steel wheels with original btrakes that even in their day were only just adequate.


Eventually after a lot of lobbying from NSW the NC category was opened up to cars that competed in the Series Prod trim but gave them the freedom to mod the car to the NC regualtions not stay as per the series prod regulations

If the category was to have gone down the way that you want there would have been no Mustangs no comaros, no HQ 308 or HQ 350 racing in Nc as none of them raced in series production in the period. Ther would also have been the situation that some of the NC cars would have ben slower than the Appendix J/ NB cars. that is a real possibility as even now some of the NB Mustangs are as fast as and in some cases faster that the NC Toranas.


Series Production in 2007 cannot work for 1964-72 cars and in my humble opinion, having raced in both NB and now NC category. we have a great set of regulations that can and does represent the premier tin top racing category
of the period 1964-72. Albeit being the fact that the technology available and the cars changed so much from 1964 until the inception of Group C in January 1973.
cheers peter sneddon

[Racehatch]

Hey Pete,

Re the tyre sizes, its all still up in the air at the moment..... My suggestion is wait till we hear something official... otherwise for sure you'll get the wrong thing...

The proposal was to allow us to run 225/50/16 (A048R) while the 225/60/15 (A032R) are unavailable, at this stage I'm unsure if they will let us run the 225/50/15 (A048R) which would be okay as it would mean we wouldnt have to change rims... Tony from traction tyres is sure that the 225/60/15 will be available later in the year so CAMs may just put in a rule to allow us to run the different tyres temporarly until the others become available again....

As you can see confusion reigns...... haha

Hopefully there should be a decision next week, I'll keep pestering Peter Lawrence till I get an answer

[dattoman]

If you car was "dual purpose" as in your raced it and did tarmac rallys...... you'd find that you can't run the 16" unless you step into C3
Meaning youd have to change the car for each event with regard to tyres
You'd probably change susp settings and a few other things too ..... but it just keeps adding up don't it ?