Interesting combo. Can appreciate the work involved.
Is it the photos or are the ford heads on a steeper angle than holden and chev?
Does this make the fit between the rails easier?
FORD POWERED TORANA
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 06:37 PM
UDLOSE :- I agree that all the best toranas dont have any holden parts in them.
But that opinion would be a red hot debate amongst the diehard holden
fans.
2600s :- Dont really need to trim the chassis rail back for this engine transplant.
There is plenty of room for the plugs to be removed. But i will trim
them up when i get around to tidying up the engine bay.
HatchmanSS76 :- yeah thats just the design of the cleveland heads. They (FORD)
designed a huge intake port for plenty of top end, but they
dumped the exhaust to sharp due to the limit space in the
engine bays.
But that opinion would be a red hot debate amongst the diehard holden
fans.
2600s :- Dont really need to trim the chassis rail back for this engine transplant.
There is plenty of room for the plugs to be removed. But i will trim
them up when i get around to tidying up the engine bay.
HatchmanSS76 :- yeah thats just the design of the cleveland heads. They (FORD)
designed a huge intake port for plenty of top end, but they
dumped the exhaust to sharp due to the limit space in the
engine bays.
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 08:13 PM
FINALLY ! after dummy assembling everything back into car in july and being told on several ocassions, that
your car is booked in to have the exhuaust fixed next week, it finally got done 2 weeks ago along with the engine plate.
Ended up doing away with the 1' 3/4 tri-y's and going to 4 into 1's. Primary's are 1"7/8 stepped upto 2" secondries into 3" collectors, the pipes look pretty trick with all mandrel bends and custom made cllectors. The engine plate came up pretty good also. Unable to post pics tonight, was have trouble with photobucket. Will try again tomorrow to upload and post pics.
your car is booked in to have the exhuaust fixed next week, it finally got done 2 weeks ago along with the engine plate.
Ended up doing away with the 1' 3/4 tri-y's and going to 4 into 1's. Primary's are 1"7/8 stepped upto 2" secondries into 3" collectors, the pipes look pretty trick with all mandrel bends and custom made cllectors. The engine plate came up pretty good also. Unable to post pics tonight, was have trouble with photobucket. Will try again tomorrow to upload and post pics.
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 09:03 PM
So how long before she going? I see by the pictures the Clevland fits better than a 308. You have heaps for room with no engine mounts down ths side of the block wouldn't you?
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 09:50 PM
Use http://imagehost.perthstreetcars.net Never down unlike photobucket
On another note congrats on the exhaust, whats next?
On another note congrats on the exhaust, whats next?
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Posted 07 October 2008 - 10:05 PM
a mate off mine had a A9X 4 door with a 351 cleveland and he also had a L31 SS hatch with a motorsport stroker cleveland he sold both cars as rollers and probally still has the custom pipes in his shed.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 05:30 PM
Photo bucket working again.
Some photos of exhaust and engine plate.
custom made 3 inch collectors ,10 hours work
engine plate all mounted in place
Had to notch the K-Frame to get both pipes around steering properly
Told engine builder yesterday that i will require engine to be completed by the end of January,
and minitubs will be done by the same bloke that done my exhaust system and will be completed
2nd week in november. Not rushing completion , but hope to have it on the road around July.
Some photos of exhaust and engine plate.
custom made 3 inch collectors ,10 hours work
engine plate all mounted in place
Had to notch the K-Frame to get both pipes around steering properly
Told engine builder yesterday that i will require engine to be completed by the end of January,
and minitubs will be done by the same bloke that done my exhaust system and will be completed
2nd week in november. Not rushing completion , but hope to have it on the road around July.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 05:34 PM
Mate that exhaust is a work of art.
Collectors look awesome.
Collectors look awesome.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 07:05 PM
Great work 
the torana's coming along nicely.
I can see alot of hard work and money has gone into your project but the end result will be worth it.
Regards Mick.
the torana's coming along nicely.I can see alot of hard work and money has gone into your project but the end result will be worth it.
Regards Mick.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 07:21 PM
should be fun/scary to drive when it is finished.
As everybody knows, you start with a bubget, but you blow that half way through.
Then you get hold ups and set backs along the way.
You build a descent motor, then you gotta build a descent box, then a diff to handle it all
and the list goes on.
Interesting to note in the replies so far that there has been a few other toranas out there with
clevos in them.
As everybody knows, you start with a bubget, but you blow that half way through.
Then you get hold ups and set backs along the way.
You build a descent motor, then you gotta build a descent box, then a diff to handle it all
and the list goes on.
Interesting to note in the replies so far that there has been a few other toranas out there with
clevos in them.
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Posted 08 October 2008 - 11:25 PM
nice looking pipes i hope i can find someone as good soon.
I sat down and thought with what i have and another $10,000. I've passed 20 and now i thinking around 30-40 to finish.
i hope i can find someone as good soon. I sat down and thought with what i have and another $10,000. I've passed 20 and now i thinking around 30-40 to finish.
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The collectors are beautiful. Is the front engine plate the only support at the engine? Does this put a lot more weight on the gearbox cross member?
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Posted 09 October 2008 - 04:33 PM
Lakeside - I know what ya mean, my motor , diff and gearbox is up around the 30 k mark, and thats diff with out
centre and tail shaft. If i had a spare 10 k laying around, i could spend that tomorrow no problem.
76lxhatch - yep, thats all the engine is mounted by and the usual gearbox mount . Engine plate mounted
like that is no problem. The plate is 8mm thick with 4 sleeves machined up and welded through the plate
and the bushes go right through. The brackets on the chasis rails are braced right around and are plated
inside chasis aswell. If plate or bracket move or what ever, it wasn't meant to be.
as you can see 4 seperate bushes
picture show sleeve welded right the way around and bushed right through
centre and tail shaft. If i had a spare 10 k laying around, i could spend that tomorrow no problem.
76lxhatch - yep, thats all the engine is mounted by and the usual gearbox mount . Engine plate mounted
like that is no problem. The plate is 8mm thick with 4 sleeves machined up and welded through the plate
and the bushes go right through. The brackets on the chasis rails are braced right around and are plated
inside chasis aswell. If plate or bracket move or what ever, it wasn't meant to be.
as you can see 4 seperate bushes
picture show sleeve welded right the way around and bushed right through
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 09:53 AM
Nice close-up pics but I meant at the gearbox end. I can see that the plate will hold plenty of weight but because the standard engine mounts support the engine further back I'm thinking that the gearbox mount and cross member is going to have more weight on it than normal.
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 02:35 PM
thats coming up a treat, great work mate nice quality build. im impressed so far.
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 06:17 PM
76lxhatch, if there is any extra weight carried by the gearbox cross member, it would only be marginal anyway.
the engine mounts on the clevelands are just infront of centre on the block. The crossmember i am using,
is a V8 XD cross member with right angle brackets weld on the ends that mount in the original torana position.
Looked at those Rod shop ones they sell tosuit toploaders into toranas, they appear to be to flimsy.
the engine mounts on the clevelands are just infront of centre on the block. The crossmember i am using,
is a V8 XD cross member with right angle brackets weld on the ends that mount in the original torana position.
Looked at those Rod shop ones they sell tosuit toploaders into toranas, they appear to be to flimsy.
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 09:15 PM
Yeah some of the Torana cross members are quite flimsy, sounds like you've got it all sussed. Let's just say that I'm not very familiar with Fords, finding this very interesting though, good on ya.
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 10:32 PM
a mate off mine had a A9X 4 door with a 351 cleveland and he also had a L31 SS hatch with a motorsport stroker cleveland he sold both cars as rollers and probally still has the custom pipes in his shed.
WOW !!! A9X and L31 SS, that would make the torana blokes dry reach. I suppose in todays Torana market , you would be hunted down and hung for doing such a thing, but back in yesteryear that would of been a major improvement ! :-)
Would be interesting to see photos of both cars though.
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 10:40 PM
WOW !!! A9X and L31 SS, that would make the torana blokes dry reach. I suppose in todays Torana market , you would be hunted down and hung for doing such a thing, but back in yesteryear that would of been a major improvement ! :-)
Would be interesting to see photos of both cars though.
25yrs ago there was a orig XY GT going to car shows with a Holden red 6
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I have seen in street machine a few years ago a XD ute with a 253 in it and a couplke of years ago an electric blue XY with a LS1 gen 3 motor and box in it.
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gday looks like you are doing a decent job ,I have the green lx ss convertible mentioned earlier with a 302 clevo/ fmx auto and borg warner disc brake rear ,It is bloody quick with the 302 but it is a butcherous conversion and will be changed back toshould be fun/scary to drive when it is finished.
As everybody knows, you start with a bubget, but you blow that half way through.
Then you get hold ups and set backs along the way.
You build a descent motor, then you gotta build a descent box, then a diff to handle it all
and the list goes on.
Interesting to note in the replies so far that there has been a few other toranas out there with
clevos in them.
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Posted 01 November 2008 - 08:29 PM
awesome. Dare to be different.
cant say i have many torana parts in my torana either, ford diff, hq brakes, GM blower, vl fuel pump.....
my next car will be a Ford capri with a small block chev but thats a long way away
cant say i have many torana parts in my torana either, ford diff, hq brakes, GM blower, vl fuel pump.....
my next car will be a Ford capri with a small block chev but thats a long way away
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HI doubleSStrouble, have not seen the green convertable hatch in the flesh as yet, but have seen it on ebay and a picture of it on the forum
befor. Whatare your plans with it ? be sure to post updates.
why-psi yeah i wanted a different torana than whats out there. unless you lift the bonnet and look, you wont no whats in the engine bay.
a capri would be nice.
How quick plans change. Tubs were due to be done next week, the fabrication shop is relocating, so wont be able to be done
around xmas time now. Should have engine in around the end of February so engine builder told me yesterday. There is light
at the end of the tunnel !
befor. Whatare your plans with it ? be sure to post updates.
why-psi yeah i wanted a different torana than whats out there. unless you lift the bonnet and look, you wont no whats in the engine bay.
a capri would be nice.
How quick plans change. Tubs were due to be done next week, the fabrication shop is relocating, so wont be able to be done
around xmas time now. Should have engine in around the end of February so engine builder told me yesterday. There is light
at the end of the tunnel !
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Posted 14 December 2008 - 09:42 PM
A couple of update pics of whats been done since last post. Mini tubs got completed last week, pretty happy with the end result. Just waiting
for craig to modify fuel cell to sit properly in the boot.
Apart from tubs that got done, sanded engine bay, etched , primed and rubbed it back this weekend.
Slowly but surely its coming along.
for craig to modify fuel cell to sit properly in the boot.
Apart from tubs that got done, sanded engine bay, etched , primed and rubbed it back this weekend.
Slowly but surely its coming along.
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Posted 15 December 2008 - 08:18 AM
lookin good scottie
hes into mine now. doing full tubs in mine and stretching the rear quarters will be finished friday, but staying at EXTREME too do my Chro-molly cage to so will be staying there over XMAS
hes into mine now. doing full tubs in mine and stretching the rear quarters will be finished friday, but staying at EXTREME too do my Chro-molly cage to so will be staying there over XMAS
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