Hey guys,
did a bit of a search but didnt really find much or i probably didnt look hard enough. As stated i wanna get a set of walkinshaw rims for my UC which currently has 13X6.5" hotwires on it. Brakes are torrie stud front disks and rear drums..
What do i need to do to change them to comode stud pattern? Is it as easy as changing the front rotors and calipers to a comdode disk? Do they fit straight onto the hub? And what about the rears? Is there drums that i can fit with a comodore stud pattern? Preferably i wanna have a similar setup as i had before for now (front disks rear drums...im 18 and on a budget!) Can it be done like this?
Also any clearence issues?..im assuming i may need to roll the guard lips a tad?
Thanks,
--Brad
16X7" Walkinshaw rims on UC
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 11:59 AM
It will not be simple or cheap. To do it properly, allow about $2K. You might be lucky and get stuff cheap.
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 05:51 PM
with the walkie rims u NEED to have a disc arse end DO NOT think about drums, what ive worked out on a cheap way is drum front stubs which vb-vp discs go onto and bracket made for the caliper which i thing the rob shop has, the rear im still trying to work out what to do lol i dont know with the uc but with bango diffs ive been told its quite easy to change it 2 a vn disc set up
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 06:10 PM
Why do you NEED discs on the rear for Walkies?
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 06:34 PM
Ohh k i see...so basically may as well save up and do the whole thing as a brake upgrade? May wait a bit for that then.. Ill probably go up to rod shop to see what they can do. I didnt think there was THAT much involved in fitting comode rims.
ta,
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 06:50 PM
RIM walkies r the only commodore rim that i know of which locates on the disc hat aswell as the centre bore, so if u fit to a drum arse end there is a 4-5mm gap between the mounting face of the rim and the drum which = cracked wheels
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:10 PM
I spent 21 years in the tyre industry. That sounds like one of the biggest loads of shit I've heard in a long time.RIM walkies r the only commodore rim that i know of which locates on the disc hat aswell as the centre bore, so if u fit to a drum arse end there is a 4-5mm gap between the mounting face of the rim and the drum which = cracked wheels
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:30 PM
The biggest problem you will have with commodore rims is the offset is different to the Torana offset. You will need spacers of a wider diff to compensate for the difference.
The problem with the drum brakes is possibly the mounting surface of the rim is larger than the mounting surface on the Torana drum. The outer edge of the Torana drum sits higher than the centre so the rim is sitting on the outer rim of the drum instead of the centre or the drum. I seem to recall having the same problem about 15 years ago with 14" Alloy Hustler rims from a HT ( I think that is what they were called ). A spacer or adaptor would solve the problem if either were legal.
You may want to have a read of this thread.
http://www.gmh-toran...opic=15445&st=0
The problem with the drum brakes is possibly the mounting surface of the rim is larger than the mounting surface on the Torana drum. The outer edge of the Torana drum sits higher than the centre so the rim is sitting on the outer rim of the drum instead of the centre or the drum. I seem to recall having the same problem about 15 years ago with 14" Alloy Hustler rims from a HT ( I think that is what they were called ). A spacer or adaptor would solve the problem if either were legal.
You may want to have a read of this thread.
http://www.gmh-toran...opic=15445&st=0
Edited by ls2lxhatch, 18 April 2007 - 08:39 PM.
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:31 PM
chopper have a look at the back of a walkie wheel mate, not having a go at u but have u ever seen 1??? the hub part of the wheel goes around the disk
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:38 PM
Changed tyres on heaps of those rims over the years.
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:53 PM
well chopper your 21 years in the tyre industry and u dont know this??
u know how a normal commodore alloy lets say a vxss wheel where the studs go through the rim the bolt up face is rased towards the back of the rim, on a walkie rim it goes inwards by a few mm's which if a wheel isnt touchin the bolt up face of the drum properly and u have only 5 12mm studs holding all that weight what will happen????
u know how a normal commodore alloy lets say a vxss wheel where the studs go through the rim the bolt up face is rased towards the back of the rim, on a walkie rim it goes inwards by a few mm's which if a wheel isnt touchin the bolt up face of the drum properly and u have only 5 12mm studs holding all that weight what will happen????
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 08:54 PM
chop how did u go balanceing the walkies then mate?????
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:19 PM
So do i have a deathwish if im thinking about wheel billet adapter plates...i dont even think ther legal..i doubt ill use them..but curious to know if anyone has used them before?
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Posted 18 April 2007 - 10:24 PM
Try the search function, it does work, just tried it.
there is someone on here who lost a wheel last week.
there is someone on here who lost a wheel last week.
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 12:13 AM
Hi just trying to help
you can get spaces to use that are made in sydney by bsa how also make tyres the same spacers are use on a porce (spelling opps) thay are safe but are not leagel in canberra or most other states unlease out of factory you can buy them from any good tyre shop (not tempy) and work very well if you have any more you would like to know on this you are more than welcome to call me on 0448362442 as I run Qfit tyres in canberra and have have done alot off this
you can get spaces to use that are made in sydney by bsa how also make tyres the same spacers are use on a porce (spelling opps) thay are safe but are not leagel in canberra or most other states unlease out of factory you can buy them from any good tyre shop (not tempy) and work very well if you have any more you would like to know on this you are more than welcome to call me on 0448362442 as I run Qfit tyres in canberra and have have done alot off this
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Posted 19 April 2007 - 10:31 AM
Have a look at the link above the picture of the Torana brake drum in my previous post. Spacers and adaptors are definitely not legal in WA. They may be legal in other states.So do i have a deathwish if im thinking about wheel billet adapter plates...i dont even think ther legal..i doubt ill use them..but curious to know if anyone has used them before?
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 11:20 AM
I just bought Walky rims for my Torrie and they are exactly as wayneo describes, hence the reason why I Googled and found this thread. The mounting face on a Walky rim is recessed by 10-15mm and so you can't just slap the rim on any old brake setup - the disc needs to sit within the recess (which is approx 170mm diameter) of the rim against the intended mounting face.
I have a Hoppers Stoppers disc upgrade on the front and the rims foul the caliper bracket and I don't think there is anyway around this. Am gonna try a spacer to see if I get clearance and if that works, may look to get the rims modified (ie. spacers welded or screwed to mounting face or the recess lip ground off the rims). Don't worry - will get the right advice before doing this.
I have a Hoppers Stoppers disc upgrade on the front and the rims foul the caliper bracket and I don't think there is anyway around this. Am gonna try a spacer to see if I get clearance and if that works, may look to get the rims modified (ie. spacers welded or screwed to mounting face or the recess lip ground off the rims). Don't worry - will get the right advice before doing this.
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