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[frash da bucket]

Hi Anthony,
A very rare photo of genuine HDT car,and still alive these days.

[crabba67]

John,Only colour photo i had.

Cheers

[crabba67]

Both BJD440 and KRK720 (which became BIO812) Lina mint XU1,s 6 Month ADR plated 1970 completed in the 1971 Australian rally Championship from 20 march 1971 to 18 September 1971.

And the two track xu1's in 1971 KSA302 and KSN116 completed from 28 February 1971 to 15 August 1971.

Both CK Xu1,s KZR545 and KZR565 were built on the 1/9/71 and both registered on 15/9/71.

Cheers

[xu2308]

How many genuine hdt cars are left

 

24C HDT that was Reshelled after 1972 Bathurst race, 1973 No.1 HDT Car, 28c HDT LJ XU1 and Saggy Sarah plus LKW111 HDT LJ XU1 Rally Car.

So Five Cars left out of the Gang.

[XU-1 RAT]

Hey toranalover  the sandwich board is confusing at best..but he did so so he could attach himself to 3100x 020859, if you look on vin disc its the first car that

had its engine number recorded, but that car IS NOT 40c/KSA 302

 

The funny part of the sandwich board is his claim about the glove box..he got the Brock trifecta by saying geoff brock  graffitied peter brock glove box that

was confirmed by phil brock..the guys a name dropper

 

The concerning thing about about the sandwich board is the fact he used ian tate name as doing the correct stamped HDT engine..so is he saying ian tate

re-stamps motors? and its ok because he once worked for the HDT team?..last i heard its illegal to re-stamp motors, and again he uses a famous name to further

his false claim to car being KSA 302

 

And his claim that the car was re-regoed in 1979 with rego number IHN-781..that is a false statement and i will put a document up to prove the claim wrong

the sandwich board is full of lies and fantasy claims to try and make his car KSA-302/40c

 

i have talked to a few people about this car and most say it started life as a GTR..a 1969 GTR!!..hence the reason its presented without tags

what we do know about KSA-302  is its engine number is 3100X 18131 with chassis being  LC 14726-A..not 3100x 020859 chassis LC 16500-A

also i have been informed that the first xu-1 built there was a group of 12 not 11 as i first thought

 

so KSA-302 is in this group of vin numbers

date          vin number            sale date           dealer number    area code

3/7/70          L153805                 11/70                857                     5

10/7/70        L155234                  000                  000                     4

10/7/70        L155235                 9/70                  151                     4

9/7/70          L155236                  000                   000                    4

9/7/70          L155237                 000                   000                     4

3/7/70          L155335                 9/70                  828                     5

3/7/70          L155334                 8/70                  848                     5

3/7/70          L155336                 9/70                  815                     5

14/7/70        L155337                 8/70                  140                     4

10/7/70        L155338                 7/70                  144                     4

9/7/70          L155339                 000                   000                     4

9/7/70          L155340                 7/70                  000                     M

 

area codes   4= South Australia      5= Western Australia       M = Melbourne

 

note that he did say HDT cars were sold by reg hunt at Rhodes and that dealer number is 437

 

so my guess is that KSA-302 is L155340 and it got 3100X 18131 chassis LC 14726-A and iam going from the area code  M  to make that guess about Vin Number

 

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Johno now todd's got his mate on facebook holden lc gtr xu1 that the 40c car is the real deal 

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[meanmachine72]

well....so looks like alf needs to be educated on  40C...  strange his booting anyone one who has the real story of this car..so he owns what facebook page?

[fx48_eh64]

Many Many Years ago I did work experience for the SEC in Mt Beauty in Victoria, the guy that i was assigned to used to drive an XU1 im sure it was,  an ex colin bond rally car,  I cant remember to much more info other than his name was Chris perhaps? this would have been 1979 or 1980 ish

[meanmachine72]

got a few more pics i what to share

 

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note the wrong 3100x motor number to match his restamped motor

 

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and where you can buy these rego stickers, when you buy these the seller will put in any details you tell him to

 

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this guys car is just a REPLICA..not the real KSA 302/40C

 

interesting thing here is thats its illegal to have an expired rego sticker on your car, not sure what the fine for that is in sunny Queensland

 

 

 

[arrimar]

Since we (Qld) got rid of rego stickers I've wondered if that rule still applies.

[arrimar]

Apparently not....

The requirement to display registration labels was removed from 1 October 2014.

You will not be fined if you leave an expired registration label on a vehicle that no longer receives a label.

[fx48_eh64]

Apparently not....

The requirement to display registration labels was removed from 1 October 2014.

You will not be fined if you leave an expired registration label on a vehicle that no longer receives a label.

Yes since it is no longer a requirement to show a valid label here in QLD an old expired one just becomes another sticker, no different to any other sticker you put on your car, and its not illegal to have an old one on the car

****EDIT***** sorry aarimar  i didnt realise that yo uhad cut and pasted directly from the QLD transport site

Edited by fx48_eh64, 18 June 2017 - 03:59 PM.

[XU-1 RAT]

Who has a copy of the entry form for the gtr xu1 nationals the toddo event at phillip island in 2018.I'm hearing that it's $385 per car.

[meanmachine72]

found this

 

https://www.youtube....tPA7AZfMUUZwYGE

[brocks72xu1]

Hey John
Have you seen the latest Australian muscle car magazine??

[crabba67]

Interesting article in Australian Muscle Car Magazine issue 120 on KSA302

[brocks72xu1]

I like Harry's signature he never crossed his T at all .

[brocks72xu1]

Hey toranalover  the sandwich board is confusing at best..but he did so so he could attach himself to 3100x 020859, if you look on vin disc its the first car that
had its engine number recorded, but that car IS NOT 40c/KSA 302
 
The funny part of the sandwich board is his claim about the glove box..he got the Brock trifecta by saying geoff brock  graffitied peter brock glove box that
was confirmed by phil brock..the guys a name dropper
 
The concerning thing about about the sandwich board is the fact he used ian tate name as doing the correct stamped HDT engine..so is he saying ian tate
re-stamps motors? and its ok because he once worked for the HDT team?..last i heard its illegal to re-stamp motors, and again he uses a famous name to further
his false claim to car being KSA 302
 
And his claim that the car was re-regoed in 1979 with rego number IHN-781..that is a false statement and i will put a document up to prove the claim wrong
the sandwich board is full of lies and fantasy claims to try and make his car KSA-302/40c
 
i have talked to a few people about this car and most say it started life as a GTR..a 1969 GTR!!..hence the reason its presented without tags
what we do know about KSA-302  is its engine number is 3100X 18131 with chassis being  LC 14726-A..not 3100x 020859 chassis LC 16500-A
also i have been informed that the first xu-1 built there was a group of 12 not 11 as i first thought
 
so KSA-302 is in this group of vin numbers
date          vin number            sale date           dealer number    area code
3/7/70          L153805                 11/70                857                     5
10/7/70        L155234                  000                  000                     4
10/7/70        L155235                 9/70                  151                     4
9/7/70          L155236                  000                   000                    4
9/7/70          L155237                 000                   000                     4
3/7/70          L155335                 9/70                  828                     5
3/7/70          L155334                 8/70                  848                     5
3/7/70          L155336                 9/70                  815                     5
14/7/70        L155337                 8/70                  140                     4
10/7/70        L155338                 7/70                  144                     4
9/7/70          L155339                 000                   000                     4
9/7/70          L155340                 7/70                  000                     M
 
area codes   4= South Australia      5= Western Australia       M = Melbourne
 
note that he did say HDT cars were sold by reg hunt at Rhodes and that dealer number is 437
 
so my guess is that KSA-302 is L155340 and it got 3100X 18131 chassis LC 14726-A and iam going from the area code  M  to make that guess about Vin Number
 
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Johno
Wonder if he knew about this paper work
Obviously he didn't know about vic roads rego paper copy that circling around with the vin engine number and chassis number which don't even match to his info

[crabba67]

KRT5## belongs to IHN781 which had a engine change on the 3/12/76 with 186A25####.........Chassis LC16500A

[crabba67]

I saw this car at a car show,I noticed it was a 1969 body and front end too,with its bump stops,right up the top on the inner guards in place,so did 8/70's have those bump stops too?

 Photos?????

Edited by crabba67, 20 December 2020 - 07:55 PM.

[meanmachine72]

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 geeez someones really desperate with that fake Signature,

note you can hardly see the details of said car? cut and paste on real GMH doco..

Edited by meanmachine72, 20 December 2020 - 09:42 PM.

[grumpy xu1]

 Photos?????

Johnn hasn't been on here for probably 2 years, so don't hold your breath waiting on a reply. + i can't see him sharing photo's, especially via a public forum.

[meanmachine72]

KRT5## belongs to IHN781 which had a engine change on the 3/12/76 with 186A25####.........Chassis LC16500A

you do a AOMC search on LC 16500-A  crabman?  if not i will, only 90 bucks to get the truth, and thats the first XU1 on vin disc with engine number, so it went and had its first service, and thats why he attached himself to it..check engine number pics with extra digit..

[meanmachine72]

remember race cars did not have warranty and would not go to dealer for a service and as such no engine number would be recorded on vin disc

Edited by meanmachine72, 20 December 2020 - 10:06 PM.

[jjtheboss]

Not sure where this is going not were are they now 

The mag with the car on the front cover is going to put  a spotlight on the car 

re engine stamping ? as photos of block and the rego label ?

Chassis number is not Ksa302 chassis no 

ksa302 is a 6/70 yellow dolly car not a 8/70 yellow dolly which is details are the numbers in book 

Insurance companys will be looking at these cars as well 

i hope people can talk there way out of this one as there must be answers out there 

 

sad day for the little Toranas