OK i raced my fraud Capri a few weeks ago and ran it on the dyno the same day.
344RWHP from a 302 windsor
10.5 comp
edelbrock performer RPM heads
edelbrock performer PRM intake
BG 775 GOLD CLAW (TOO BIG)
solid cam
C4 4000rpm stall
9inch 4.11 gears
ran 11.3 @ 125MPH
full exhaust and street tyres
Whats your HP Figures??
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Posted 15 May 2008 - 10:00 PM
Have you not seen the advert currently running on TV Pat?Killer wasps?????
In my NOT SO humble opinion that has to be one of the worst adverts ever. My stomach turns every time they run it. Having said that people obviously take note.
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Posted 16 May 2008 - 08:53 PM
Wonder what Devils would have to say about that standard of measurement....
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Posted 17 May 2008 - 10:47 AM
Just wet bomber.... the monaro leaks like a seive 
If it had broken 400RWHP it might have been stick together
If it had broken 400RWHP it might have been stick together
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Posted 17 May 2008 - 09:45 PM
Last time I had our VN V6 saloon car on the dyno was as a freshened engine just before Bathurst this Febuary year.
Name: Craig & Naomi
Model: VN Commodore
Engine type: 3.8 ltr V6
Engine Mods: Class controlled mods only, NO porting- just lots of time on valve seats, controlled cam but dialled in at what I set it to, controlled injectors & ECU etc etc
Manual or Auto: Manual T5
Diff Ratio: 3.45:1 spooled
Power Output: 165.2 RW KW
Torque: Done in Lb's torque, Not ft lb like it should be.
Dyno Location: Adelaide, Heinrich Performance & Tuning
Date: Feb 08.
Name: Craig & Naomi
Model: VN Commodore
Engine type: 3.8 ltr V6
Engine Mods: Class controlled mods only, NO porting- just lots of time on valve seats, controlled cam but dialled in at what I set it to, controlled injectors & ECU etc etc
Manual or Auto: Manual T5
Diff Ratio: 3.45:1 spooled
Power Output: 165.2 RW KW
Torque: Done in Lb's torque, Not ft lb like it should be.
Dyno Location: Adelaide, Heinrich Performance & Tuning
Date: Feb 08.
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One of my customer engines won the Adelaide Ford section of the "National Holden versus Ford" Dyno challenge.
Sean Johnson in his XB GT coupe
545 cu in BBF. (Engine specs later when the owner doesn't mind)
Dynoed in road trim & on PULP
375.9 RW KW (502 HP)
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Sean Johnson in his XB GT coupe
545 cu in BBF. (Engine specs later when the owner doesn't mind)
Dynoed in road trim & on PULP
375.9 RW KW (502 HP)
Craig
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Posted 17 May 2008 - 10:09 PM
Thought I may aswell put mine down for the 6 cyl guys.
Name: Chris
Model: LC Sedan
Engine type: red 202
Engine Mods: blue crank/rods, stage3 y/t head, roller rockers, bathust XU1 cam, 6kg flywheel, 020 over size pistons.
Manual or Auto: manual.
Diff Ratio: 3.45 borg warner
Power Output: 150.7 rwhp @5500 rpm
Torque: 230 ft/lbs
Dyno Location: Chvs Auto in Carrum Downs Victoria
Date: 11/03/08
I think theres a fair bit more in it with a bit more head work as engine comfotably revs to around 7000rpm.
Name: Chris
Model: LC Sedan
Engine type: red 202
Engine Mods: blue crank/rods, stage3 y/t head, roller rockers, bathust XU1 cam, 6kg flywheel, 020 over size pistons.
Manual or Auto: manual.
Diff Ratio: 3.45 borg warner
Power Output: 150.7 rwhp @5500 rpm
Torque: 230 ft/lbs
Dyno Location: Chvs Auto in Carrum Downs Victoria
Date: 11/03/08
I think theres a fair bit more in it with a bit more head work as engine comfotably revs to around 7000rpm.
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Posted 18 May 2008 - 03:43 PM
about 10 yrs back we did a 327 chev for a sand drag bike- fairly mild combo
specs..eng.- 327 chev + 030
pistons- trw fgd 9.5
heads - brownfield (ex sprintcar)
cam - crower 288 hdp 1.5 ratio roller rockers
crank - std.327 lge journal with stock rods balanced
intake - victor jnr. 750 holley dp ( jones fuel systems usa), procharger P600
centrifugal supercharger.
fuelsys. - magnaflow 500 gph pump and magnaflow boost sensitive regulator
spark - mallory supermag 2
fuel used was c-16 vp and we dynoed the engine on bill hanson's engine dyno in adel.
results were- 599.7 hp @ 6500 rpm and 510 ft/lbs 5500 rpm.
we used dyno headers on the day but built zoomies for the 'bike'
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specs..eng.- 327 chev + 030
pistons- trw fgd 9.5
heads - brownfield (ex sprintcar)
cam - crower 288 hdp 1.5 ratio roller rockers
crank - std.327 lge journal with stock rods balanced
intake - victor jnr. 750 holley dp ( jones fuel systems usa), procharger P600
centrifugal supercharger.
fuelsys. - magnaflow 500 gph pump and magnaflow boost sensitive regulator
spark - mallory supermag 2
fuel used was c-16 vp and we dynoed the engine on bill hanson's engine dyno in adel.
results were- 599.7 hp @ 6500 rpm and 510 ft/lbs 5500 rpm.
we used dyno headers on the day but built zoomies for the 'bike'
laz
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^^^ I have heard the stories on this bike..........I used to race GP bikes and would not go anywhere NEAR this thing..Not even for 72 virgins!!! You guys are nutz!! 
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Posted 18 May 2008 - 09:47 PM
another one for the six cyl brigade
date;24-6-2007
place; TOWLER PERFORMANCE,ADELAIDE
name ;daryl
car ;lj 1972 xu1
motor; red 202 mostly still hdt spec ,only just run in at the time.
carbs;triple 1-3/4 stromberg
exhaust; factory spec/headers
trans.xu1-m21
diff;3.08lsd
wheels;13"X6- 205/65
i gate crashed a commodre club dyno shootout day,results were pretty good;
98 rear wheel killer wasps in 3rd
118 rear wheel killer wasps 5800 rpm top gear, b4 bill pulled the pin as he didnt want old iron exploding on his dyno
.cheers daz 
date;24-6-2007
place; TOWLER PERFORMANCE,ADELAIDE
name ;daryl
car ;lj 1972 xu1
motor; red 202 mostly still hdt spec ,only just run in at the time.
carbs;triple 1-3/4 stromberg
exhaust; factory spec/headers
trans.xu1-m21
diff;3.08lsd
wheels;13"X6- 205/65
i gate crashed a commodre club dyno shootout day,results were pretty good;
98 rear wheel killer wasps in 3rd
118 rear wheel killer wasps 5800 rpm top gear, b4 bill pulled the pin as he didnt want old iron exploding on his dyno
.cheers daz
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 11:25 AM
Had my car on 2 different dyno's in the last 12 months.
Hub mounted : 162kw/217hp
Rolling road: 141kw/190hp
Its a 202 with Black motor bottom end & 12 port flowed head. { and all other usual stuff ]
Mike.
Hub mounted : 162kw/217hp
Rolling road: 141kw/190hp
Its a 202 with Black motor bottom end & 12 port flowed head. { and all other usual stuff ]
Mike.
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 11:31 AM
Now THAT is an interesting comparison!
Mike: Was "Shootout mode" used on both Dynos to correct the values back to a base line? Did you do any mods to the car between the two runs? What was the weather like between the two days?
It's an interesting comparison, and this is why i've never been keen on using dyno reports as a bragging tool because there are so many factors! i dynoed mine for tuning sake and also to get a ballpark figure of horsepower made!
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!
Mike: Was "Shootout mode" used on both Dynos to correct the values back to a base line? Did you do any mods to the car between the two runs? What was the weather like between the two days?
It's an interesting comparison, and this is why i've never been keen on using dyno reports as a bragging tool because there are so many factors! i dynoed mine for tuning sake and also to get a ballpark figure of horsepower made!
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!
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put the 308 on john whites yesterday, 408hp, @ 5500, 1st run before any tuning with a 850 holley. then ran with the webers 420hp @ 6000, ran lean, kept jetting up but still lean, so on hold till monday. So we will see !
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 11:36 AM
What is the difference between Hub Mounted and Rolling Road?
And also, how does power change between Shootout and the other mode. I have never fully understood it.
And also, how does power change between Shootout and the other mode. I have never fully understood it.
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 11:43 AM
Hub mounted they remove your wheels and attach the dyno to the hubs! No chance of slippage or other factors related to the tyres slipping on the rollers of the rolling road.
Shootout mode was designed to bring a level playing field to it to give a baseline correction factor to all runs so that they can compare one sheet with another.
As you know your car runs better on a cooler denser day than on a hot day, and so dyno reports on the same car on different days will be different. They measure all the barometric differences (Ambient temp, air pressure, etc etc etc) and aply a correction factor to bring those back to an effective Zero figure.
If you remeber seeing a dyno sheet of eddie tassone's twin turboed commodore of about 1800hp... one of the sensors read the IT figure ( Intake Temp) as 200 degrees ( from memory... the figures might be wrong!), and caclulated the horsepower was HUGE cause it was breathing very hot air. That's an example of how it works when the real figure should have been something around maybe 1200Hp.
Hope this helps a bit mate! of course that's my basic understanding of it all!
Shootout mode was designed to bring a level playing field to it to give a baseline correction factor to all runs so that they can compare one sheet with another.
As you know your car runs better on a cooler denser day than on a hot day, and so dyno reports on the same car on different days will be different. They measure all the barometric differences (Ambient temp, air pressure, etc etc etc) and aply a correction factor to bring those back to an effective Zero figure.
If you remeber seeing a dyno sheet of eddie tassone's twin turboed commodore of about 1800hp... one of the sensors read the IT figure ( Intake Temp) as 200 degrees ( from memory... the figures might be wrong!), and caclulated the horsepower was HUGE cause it was breathing very hot air. That's an example of how it works when the real figure should have been something around maybe 1200Hp.
Hope this helps a bit mate! of course that's my basic understanding of it all!
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 11:53 AM
Thanks for that Tiny, That clears HEAPS up for me!
I had never head of Hub Mounted Dyno's... You learn something everyday! I need to get a tune very soon. When (If) i ever do i will put up my figures
I had never head of Hub Mounted Dyno's... You learn something everyday! I need to get a tune very soon. When (If) i ever do i will put up my figures
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 11:56 AM
when i finally get around to it, an old friend of my dads has an AWD dyno in his ultra tune shop.
Told us we could wheel the toranas in for a run.
Told us we could wheel the toranas in for a run.
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Cheers for that Tiny, I always wondered what Shootout mode meant... And this is the first I've heard of Hub Mounted!
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 12:11 PM
No Worries guys, Again that's just by basic understanding of it all, and i'm by no means an expert!
Cheers!
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Tiny,
Not sure about shootout mode but conditions were similar. The difference between the 2 dyno readings is exactly why you use the same dyno for comparitive testing, the actual figure gained is purely a reference point- no more than that.
Mike.
Not sure about shootout mode but conditions were similar. The difference between the 2 dyno readings is exactly why you use the same dyno for comparitive testing, the actual figure gained is purely a reference point- no more than that.
Mike.
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Thanks for the reply mike!
I was curious to see if there were losses to do with the tyres compared to the hub mount version hence why i asked about the conditions!
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I was curious to see if there were losses to do with the tyres compared to the hub mount version hence why i asked about the conditions!
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And the car was exactly the same spec.
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cool mate! 
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 11:24 PM
TA Torana 2 door
Stock 1300 cc / L13
Trans - M20 � Manual 4 speed 117mm � 3.31 1st
Axle - G96 � 3.55 ratio
Not Dynoed, but on the rego papers in 1974 it said 46hp
After 30 odd years and only 15, 000 k's I reckon I still got 30hp plus under there to rocket me round
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Stock 1300 cc / L13
Trans - M20 � Manual 4 speed 117mm � 3.31 1st
Axle - G96 � 3.55 ratio
Not Dynoed, but on the rego papers in 1974 it said 46hp
After 30 odd years and only 15, 000 k's I reckon I still got 30hp plus under there to rocket me round
Muz
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