hey all,
i have to make a sump for my lh torana with a rb30et motor in it.
i am chasing help and thoughts, (pictures would be good too) of baffle design
to eliminate oil starvation. i will be getting a proper one made up later on down the track but for now i need to make one myself to save cash.
the motor going in isn't making much power (est 170rwkw max) for the moment.
thoughts and help would be aprecitated
cheers
ryan
Making A Sump
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 08:54 PM
its a hard job.a rear pan needs less baffling than a front pan for obvious reasons.
trapdoors are nothing more than hinges without holes in them that open in toward the pickup.
i use an external pickup so i can achieve the ultimate baffling system.
heres a few external pics of the setup i am building for my daily
trapdoors are nothing more than hinges without holes in them that open in toward the pickup.
i use an external pickup so i can achieve the ultimate baffling system.
heres a few external pics of the setup i am building for my daily
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 09:02 PM
Thats pretty shit hot Jap...nice work! 
Well done! 
R
Well done! R
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 09:04 PM
thanks man, thats my crust that shit, i do it all day everyday lol
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Posted 21 September 2007 - 11:27 PM
awseme thanks heaps for those pics. The sump you showed me is exactly how i pictured mine as i cant fit a rear pan because of running an auto and i cant get to converter bolts.
What pricing would you charge to make one of those if i got measurments? also is it possible to make a new pick up to bolt in to the original position?
What is the benefit of using that wire mesh?
cheers mate
What pricing would you charge to make one of those if i got measurments? also is it possible to make a new pick up to bolt in to the original position?
What is the benefit of using that wire mesh?
cheers mate
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Posted 22 September 2007 - 11:18 AM
you can make a new pickup that comes through the pan internally but it will render any attempt at baffling useless.
under accelleration all the oil will just flow to the back of the pan cause you physically cannot have a baffle where the pickup pipe is.
the expanded mesh is like a one way valve for oil being thrown off the crank,it allows oil to enter the pan but stops it being pushed back out due to the angle of the mesh.
i charge $650 for these sumps but i have about a 6 week waiting list for any job atm and it seems to only be getting busier.
i am putting on a young fella though to help me get hrough the jobs faster
under accelleration all the oil will just flow to the back of the pan cause you physically cannot have a baffle where the pickup pipe is.
the expanded mesh is like a one way valve for oil being thrown off the crank,it allows oil to enter the pan but stops it being pushed back out due to the angle of the mesh.
i charge $650 for these sumps but i have about a 6 week waiting list for any job atm and it seems to only be getting busier.
i am putting on a young fella though to help me get hrough the jobs faster
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Posted 22 September 2007 - 11:20 AM
and they generally end up between 7l and 8l capacity depending on space restrictions
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Posted 22 September 2007 - 11:22 AM
Just wondering why you didn't use aluminium jap-xu1?
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Posted 22 September 2007 - 12:36 PM
sweet as i will keep that in mind. thanks for the replys.
good too see your busy with all the cool stuff you make!
good too see your busy with all the cool stuff you make!
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Posted 22 September 2007 - 01:47 PM
cause the original pan is steel, and you cant weld steel to aluminium.Just wondering why you didn't use aluminium jap-xu1?
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Posted 22 September 2007 - 02:38 PM
obviously not but you could have fabricated a new flange out of aluminium?
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Posted 22 September 2007 - 03:24 PM
a cut and shut of the original pan takes half the time and costs half as much.
thats my reason for doing it in steel.
thats my reason for doing it in steel.
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Posted 22 September 2007 - 04:53 PM
yeah true a lot more work in it. Guess I just don't like mild steel anymore haha.
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Posted 23 September 2007 - 11:10 AM
I just found a piece of 20mm steel, match drilled the holes & bolted the sump to it.
Then i took a gringer with a 1mm disc & cut the sump from the flange.
Turn it around, gently heat the sump in 2 corners to get it to mate up, & tacked it all together.
Remove the windage tray & reverse it. Cut the oil pickup at the mount & reverse that too.
I think it fouled at the front of the pan to x-member by about 10mm. But that was with fabricated engine mounts. More metal massaging.
It took a little bit of time, but it cost me nothing.
It helps to have a dummy block to check clearences.
Then i took a gringer with a 1mm disc & cut the sump from the flange.
Turn it around, gently heat the sump in 2 corners to get it to mate up, & tacked it all together.
Remove the windage tray & reverse it. Cut the oil pickup at the mount & reverse that too.
I think it fouled at the front of the pan to x-member by about 10mm. But that was with fabricated engine mounts. More metal massaging.
It took a little bit of time, but it cost me nothing.
It helps to have a dummy block to check clearences.
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Posted 23 September 2007 - 11:53 AM
$650 for that pan is a very good price, when I got mine done 7 years ago now it was about that price, so it shows Jap is doing a good price.
Mine hasn�t got the mesh but it does have what I think you call a windage tray and a crank scraper.
The sump I speak of is for my RB30 not VH41.
Jap does very good work I can stick my neck out and say that for sure as he welded up my tank and made my turbo collectors, and as you can see the quality of his work in the pics he provided.
Mine hasn�t got the mesh but it does have what I think you call a windage tray and a crank scraper.
The sump I speak of is for my RB30 not VH41.
Jap does very good work I can stick my neck out and say that for sure as he welded up my tank and made my turbo collectors, and as you can see the quality of his work in the pics he provided.
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