lh torana project, i want input
#1 _gavlhtorana_
Posted 24 September 2007 - 02:54 PM
its time to put a bit of muscle behind my old girl,(LH SEDAN) shes currently running a red 202 with a collumn shift auto. I want to know...
1. how much should i pay for a decsent condition carby 308 and manual gearbox to match.
2. would it be much harder to put in a floor shift manual with the 308 or a column shift manual...auto not an option!!! and if so what gearbox should i use, and roughly wats the procedure.
3. what is involved in the engine transplant, im pretty cluey but dont exactly have one lying around to go off...do i need to move the engine mounts or just replace them. and what else will have to be moved... i know about the brake upgrade already.
#2
Posted 24 September 2007 - 04:18 PM
Then get some secnd hand "Tri-Y" extractors, V8 front springs, V8 radiator, V8 brake booster etc and install the new motor. Take it to an exhaust joint to get some pipes fitted up (cheap twin 2.5" system with a H-pipe would be fine.
Take it down to VicRoads and tell them the new Engine Number.
Floorshift is easier to do beacuse the shifter just bolts ontop of the box, all you need to do is cut a hole in the floor & carpet.
When you actually go to do it, it will be more expensive and time consuming than I've made it sound. But it'll go nice.
#3
Posted 24 September 2007 - 04:19 PM
i dont think calling us grease monkeys will get you very far? but maybe im wrong....Ok guys i want all the input and advise you grease monkeys have to offer.
#4 _TJ253_
Posted 24 September 2007 - 04:27 PM
#5
Posted 24 September 2007 - 06:41 PM
if you get an engine and box for 800 bucks just to get things started expect to spend around 800 again on necessities like clutch pedal, radiator,accelerator cable,new hoses, wiring harness extension, and exhaust mods.
once its all mobile then youve got the legal issues to throw money at.
if its all well planned then theres only a month off the road.
plenty of us could/have done it in less but first time around theres heaps of stuff that can take you by surprise.
#6
Posted 24 September 2007 - 08:48 PM
thats gonna be hard heath
Since rebuild! Geez
#7 _gavlhtorana_
Posted 25 September 2007 - 12:05 PM
also, if any one in NSW does have a descent 308 and any goodies to go with it, let me know....
Cheers guys
#8
Posted 25 September 2007 - 12:51 PM
Keep your eyes out on eBay, trading post etc.
#9 _XUI202_
Posted 25 September 2007 - 09:24 PM
#10 _@milco@_
Posted 27 September 2007 - 11:13 AM
#11
Posted 28 September 2007 - 07:04 PM
Got the same if not more from sellin parts off the old girl than i paid for her in the first place.
Cheers
Mike
#12 _ATD350_
Posted 04 October 2007 - 10:19 AM
Sounds like your on a winner with this one dude. Get stuck in and get dirty!
If it does go ahead, I would be dead keen to swap you or buy your column auto steering column complete.
Where are you located?
#13 _Rally hatch_
Posted 04 October 2007 - 03:54 PM
If you went this option you would need to change the sump,oil pick and engine mount brackets as commodore are different to torana.
But the power difference between the EFI V8 and the older style carbie V8's in standard trim is quite noticeable. It just depends on your budget
Also I have a VL 308 carby motor sitting in garage, Its got an ACL race kit through it, cam etc. All it needs is a gasket kit through it as it was pulled down to inspect when it got pulled out of car. Was going to keep it as a spare, still might...Who knows..
Edited by Rally hatch, 04 October 2007 - 03:55 PM.
#14 _gavlhtorana_
Posted 06 October 2007 - 07:56 PM
A friend is selling a slightly worked 308 for cheap, it has a Turbo bolt pattern from what i gather.
What will i need to bolt up a supra 5 speed gearbox (ive turned away from the idea of running a 4 speed with an 8....simply not enough gears).
Also if it does turn out to be a Trimatic pattern engine, will that make it easier to bolt up the supra box.
Please anyone with input let me know...
Also if anyone in NSW is gettin rid of a 308, and isnt asking the moon for it. Let me know.
Cheerz
#15 _JBird_
Posted 06 October 2007 - 08:36 PM
#16
Posted 06 October 2007 - 08:56 PM
#17 _Keithy's_UC_
Posted 07 October 2007 - 06:47 AM
It all really depends on your budget as to what the final product would be! By the sounds of things your on a tight budget, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. As Heath mentioned you could find yourself a 308 with a few kay's on it (less than 100 000km will still be a very good motor). For a gearbox on a budget, forget the supra box because you'll end up spending a bit of money as most parts are custom and the box alone will set you back nearly/over a grand... Let alone all of the other parts involved in the conversion.
If you were to settle with an Auzzie 4speed and compromise on your diff ratio you'd get good cruising RPM and performance too. Also, a trimatic is a great alternative and would be easier to fit due to no need to cut holes.
I cant tell you any real life figures, but a good $3k should cover all costs provided you dont go rebuilding boxes or engines as well...
Cheers
Keith
#18 _eddie74lh_
Posted 08 October 2007 - 06:44 PM
to this
#19 _evil UC hatch_
Posted 09 October 2007 - 08:32 PM
I was quoted under $2,000 from dellow in sydney for a conversion kit with reco supra box. I believe I still needed to purchase pedals and flywheel to go from an auto. this was for an injected 5.0 into UCHey mate,
It all really depends on your budget as to what the final product would be! By the sounds of things your on a tight budget, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. As Heath mentioned you could find yourself a 308 with a few kay's on it (less than 100 000km will still be a very good motor). For a gearbox on a budget, forget the supra box because you'll end up spending a bit of money as most parts are custom and the box alone will set you back nearly/over a grand... Let alone all of the other parts involved in the conversion.
If you were to settle with an Auzzie 4speed and compromise on your diff ratio you'd get good cruising RPM and performance too. Also, a trimatic is a great alternative and would be easier to fit due to no need to cut holes.
I cant tell you any real life figures, but a good $3k should cover all costs provided you dont go rebuilding boxes or engines as well...
Cheers
Keith
#20
Posted 10 October 2007 - 01:00 AM
The Supra W58 5 speed is quite suitable behind a 200kw engine but above that the Tremec is the choice
The W58 with all the parts to fit it which includes, New bellhousing, New 10.5�� clutch kit, New Hydraulic Bearing ( pictured in the attachment),New special firewall bracket, New master cylinder and reservoir, Modified clutch pedal, New Braided line, Mount bracket and crossmember, New speedo cable, New slip yoke, Floor boot, Gearstick and knob, this Premium Supra kit will cost you $3545.
The Tremec TKO 500 is a much better long term choice for the Torana, it too includes the same parts list as above. The full kit for the TKO 500 will cost an extra $2430 and If you want a Billet steel Flywheel and ARP H/P bolts add a further $445
Edited by ls2lxhatch, 10 October 2007 - 01:04 AM.
#21
Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:32 AM
#22
Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:48 PM
Depending on how well you can sniff around, i got a w58 for $450 with belhousing. It was not the right belhousing so i sold it on ebay for $20 less than a new one from crs. Once i bought a new spedo cable slip yoke and clutch plate for $300 the whole conversion cost less than $1000 and i have used the same gearbox and belhousing with my old 253 and new 304 and havenot had any dramas. Good 308s can be had cheap (out of wb statos commodores) for under $1000 and you can here them going. All project prob cost alittle more than you want but you should end up with a nice car. Good luck hunting around let us know what you end up bying
eddie your 74 lh looks tidy
Chears Neil
Edited by Neils LX, 10 October 2007 - 02:52 PM.
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