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Posted 04 March 2006 - 07:29 AM

Does this mean if you have an lx before the 6th, you dont need as much pollution gear?!

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 01:39 PM

just took all mine off, No point having it if u cant really hook it up is there,
Looks much neater with no canister in the engine bay and elliminates hoses

fair enuf if the engines a stocker, But having aftermarket equipment makes it hard to hook up :rolleyes:

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 02:03 PM

If the car requires it by law, it must stay put as well as being connected and functional. All I know is that I won't get a fine if you get caught.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 02:28 PM

Ok Chopper, Point taken about having it there But could u explain how to hook it all up to function With Aftermarket equipment, eg,Manifolds Holley carbs ect?
Thats where im really trying to get at, Whats the point having it if u cant hook it up thats all Not having a go :spoton:

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 02:48 PM

Green: i belive that it can all be hooked up even with aftermarket gear...

You should be able to hook teh cannister to one of the ports on the base of the holley and thats all thats needed! the other is to the tank?

Correct me if i'm wrong though, but i belive it can be done!

Cheers.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 06:05 PM

Its just so Ugly tho man, can u buy any other size/shape pollution units that could be mounded under the gaurd or somewhere Not so obvious? Its just when u got a car that is put in shows ect, a pollution canister just looks shite :huh:

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 06:27 PM

Whats the fine for not having it?

Goes along way to making chrome canister covers.one day it will sink in that you cant get away with it.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 06:39 PM

Try looking for another car's cannister that is smaller in height.. i think HZ's came with a small cannister.. Hide it under the body somewehre and just run a single vapor line to the carby.. Viola.. pollution legal and hidden!

Dont ask me wehre to hide it though.. i cant answer that! I want to do it on the monaro cause of a fuel overflow problem i'm having but i cant figure out where to hide it all!

It doesnt affect power.. all that will happen is the car will run slightly rich while the vapor is burnt off that's in teh cannister... it really is a good system.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 06:44 PM

That canister can go anywhere in the car you desire provided you have the tank line and the purge lines hooked up.

Mine is currently underneath where the battery originally goes, I plan to move it up the back near the fuel tank.

M@

P.S. I use a VL commodore one, same as what came out in pulsars & camiras to name a few. It is a bit smaller than the Torana ones.

Edited by Toranamat69, 13 March 2006 - 06:46 PM.


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Posted 13 March 2006 - 06:49 PM

Whats the fine for not having it?

Generally you get a defect. Potentially, a $10K can be handed out.

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 08:37 PM

I understand the VT commodore onward charcoal cannister is quite small and rectangular in shape (about 3"x4"x6") and can be hidden pretty much anywhere. Cant remember where i read it though

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 06:47 PM

i need some hepl with this,i have a 77 lx 308 i want to build a 355 or 383 for it,but having this adr27a laws i want my car legal as not to have to many dramas with the boys,so b4 i go spend 6k on a build to suit carby,should i go for injection to suit my car,have seen a couple strokers for sale and they have been vn style injection on one was a blue block the other vr engine,,they are both around the 6k price range,,,
some help be good if this would be the best way for me so i fit into the polution laws,,,would have to run cats,
also will the t5 fit in the tunnel of the torry without to much mod,,or what other 5 speed boxes will work with this type of engine,
just want to spend in the right direction,
cheers craig
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Posted 12 August 2007 - 10:54 PM

so ... the canisters don't affect performance right? and can be small enough to conceal? also, fairly easy to plumb?

just cause u dont have to, doesnt mean it's not a good idea - from an enviromental point of view.

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 02:10 AM

I have heard that some engineers have specified two canisters for Torana's with drop tanks. It makes sense that the capacity of the cannister has to match the expected expansion in the fuel tank that causes vapour to be pushed into the canister.

You should be able to find a spot up under the front guard.

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Posted 22 May 2008 - 01:03 PM

I've got a LX series "Emissions controll systems owner handbook" that come with the owners manual with my hatch. If anyone is interested I can try and scan for you. Just explains all the systems also has diagrams. My car was purchased 5/77, don't know the manufacture date.
It also has a part no. at the bottom 9946235 november 1976 and states that it should remain with vehicle at time of resale.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:40 PM

gday mate

id love to get a copy of your pollution gear booklet if you had any luck scanning it.
i am putting a 253 out of a 78 HZ into my 77 LX so i have all the pollution gear (i think)
but i would like to be sure as i think im missing the tvs but cant tell if the fitting that is screwed
into the manifold between carby and dizzy is it or not????

you can email it to me at [email protected]

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:59 AM

As 2FLY stated the VT style onwards would be a good start for concealment as there a smallish rectangualar box, the standard location for those was mounted to the body above the rear axle.

But im assuming hookup to a torana it goes, Tank-Canister-Inlet

just these newer cars have all the control solenoids etc running them that the older cars obviously never had

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 01:29 PM

Green: i belive that it can all be hooked up even with aftermarket gear...

You should be able to hook teh cannister to one of the ports on the base of the holley and thats all thats needed! the other is to the tank?

Correct me if i'm wrong though, but i belive it can be done!

Cheers.

I know 320 Holleys have the fitting in the base plate to hook up the canister, but 350's don't.
Could prolly swap base plates over though???

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 01:21 AM

Can someone explain what the flap in the exhaust manifold does?
It is typically found in the post 76 v8 cars in the RHS exhaust manifold.

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 07:02 AM

Can someone explain what the flap in the exhaust manifold does?
It is typically found in the post 76 v8 cars in the RHS exhaust manifold.

When the engine is cold the flap is closed, forcing the exhaust gases up the passage which goes thru to the inlet manifold. This pre-heats the inlet & provides heat for the auto-choke pick-up. The pre-heating is required because the emission type carbies run very lean & become 'unhappy' when cold without this heat. The gas then exits out thru the left-hand head & headers. When the engine warms up, the flap opens & the exhaust is then allowed to exit thru both headers as designed.

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 11:01 PM

Ok than you Dr.T.
Is the flap closed with the lever in the vertical or horizontal position?

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 12:00 AM

If it's the same as the old 6 hotbox, the spring would expand with heat if that helps?
And the lever (= weight?) would help it to open.

Edited by rodomo, 07 February 2010 - 12:05 AM.


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Posted 07 February 2010 - 07:49 PM

If it's the same as the old 6 hotbox, the spring would expand with heat if that helps?
And the lever (= weight?) would help it to open.

Actually I would think it would be the other way, if you look at tap handles on piping in industry the handle faces the same way as the flap/valve etc so if the handle is parallel with the pipe then it is open.

As for the weight and the spring, same here, the weighted lever would hold it closed and as the spring heated it would wind it open????

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 09:20 PM

Maybe? :dontknow:
It would depend on the orientation?
I've never seen one, just relating.




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