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Started by rodomo , Dec 30 2007 09:25 AM

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#26 TerrA LX

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 12:47 AM

HAH!..Just got what you meant! :clap:
Went back and looked at my diff pic...the mounting brackets are actually pivoting about 1"..1 1/4" closer to the rear of the car...not directly under the housing as a std fitment!!..Clever!!
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Would that be because it it an L34 using HQ arms? Same principle as longer pan hard bar.

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 12:48 AM

The amount of stuff they got away with was amazing!

Correct me here but the P/H basically just holds the housing from moving left and right?..Thats its main job?

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 12:50 AM

^ That is the only job it does, otherwise it is just extra weight.

Edited by ALX76, 31 December 2007 - 12:50 AM.

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 12:52 AM

I was interested that Struggler said he noticed such a huge difference in his A9X when it broke...guess you never know how much they move about until you pin them down.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 12:58 AM

I was traveling behind a UC (same config as A9X) with big rubber (flares) and a V8 and noticed the whole rear end move near 2" when he hit it, the angled top arms are supposed to stop this movement in a Torana, but i spose this depends on how good your rubbers are and how strong (read reinforced) your arms are.

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 01:09 AM

I am running nolathene and boxed arms to help...will stick the P/H in as well....
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 01:14 AM

Interesting where the boys have welded my brackets on as well...will check that tomorrow.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 04:56 AM

With your diff, I'm pretty sure a Ford Watt's link would bolt on.

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 07:48 AM

More info?..I deleted most/all of the brackets.
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 07:58 AM

The Ford watts link uses a diff hat with an integral pivot point from memory. Go to the supermarket and look under the back of an XE/F and check. You used to be able to buy them new quite cheaply as they got bent when the car hit a gutter sideways (a common event with Ford owners !!)

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 08:46 AM

Interesting..
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http://www.brockeng....hanism/Watt.htm

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 08:49 AM

I was going to write a long and hepfull post about the ACTUAL differences between WATTS and PANHARD.... But It looks like you guys have it all sorted :rolleyes: :fool:
BTW:I have the utmost respect for Ron Missens work BUT if that is his panhard bracket under the Hodgson car, then from an engineering view point he should be flogged!

Cheers Greg..

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 09:07 AM

The Ford watts link uses a diff hat with an integral pivot point from memory. Go to the supermarket and look under the back of an XE/F and check. You used to be able to buy them new quite cheaply as they got bent when the car hit a gutter sideways (a common event with Ford owners !!)

Thanks Greg,
Struggler...just read, in the AU they lowered the pivot point as well...
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Posted 31 December 2007 - 09:09 AM

Heres 2 demos.
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http://totallypolish...attsdisplay.htm

http://totallypolish...attsdriving.htm

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Posted 31 December 2007 - 04:46 PM

you guys might be very interested in these, click to make bigger.
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Posted 01 January 2008 - 01:27 PM

Looks like a HDT L34 ???
Where did you see that? I don't recall seeing that race in Group C lately ?

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Posted 01 January 2008 - 01:45 PM

Anna Camerons 1974 HDT car.
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Posted 01 January 2008 - 07:34 PM

Geez, rear roll centre is fairly high....
Bet it understeers on corner exit a bit.
Cheers Greg..

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Posted 01 January 2008 - 09:10 PM

Driven by a girl.
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 09:50 AM

Greg, at what height would be more suitable for the panhard, I'm in the process of putting one together at the moment. I was going to go probably just below the centreline of the diff, and make it a little longer than the one in that last pic.

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:10 AM

Does anyone know where I can buy those clamps, links etc on the ends of the rear sway bar in rorys pic of the HDT car ?

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 10:31 AM

Mick,
Pretty sure it is a KMAC bar and Howard bought the brackets/arms only from them for his front bar so guess Kevin will sell you them on their own.
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355LX...this is Moots mates car. I am also interested in Gregs suggestions for my location.
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Posted 02 January 2008 - 03:33 PM

Thats the same location as mine, it does push a little on rough roads when the suspension travels.

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 04:02 PM

I was wondering with rock hard race suspension and minimal travel if that would be reduced somewhat.
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