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Panhard V No panhard rod.
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, Dec 30 2007 09:25 AM
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 02:15 PM
you might need to put a bit of brace on the body mount? maybe diaganol, or run a bit of flat bar on its side from the top of chassis rail down past the join a few inches. does that make any sense?
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 02:16 PM
and the nolathane upper bushes are going in the bin right?
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Posted 04 April 2008 - 03:18 PM
Nope....just spares.and the nolathane upper bushes are going in the bin right?
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 06:48 AM
It was actually Moots example I used with the first pickup point on the diff housing.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:54 AM
the above pics are from my car,not my mates one 
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Posted 06 April 2008 - 03:57 PM
Moot's one above is close to what mine looks like except the RH bolt mounts onto the axle tube to the right of where ^ his coilover shock is.
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Posted 07 April 2008 - 04:41 PM
moots chassis mount looks a lot better. is that a mcdonald brothers kit?
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Posted 07 April 2008 - 05:16 PM
yeah it is but its slightly modified.i highly recomend them
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 11:59 PM
hey moot.
who is mcdonald brothers? i tried googleing them with no result? , do they do the panhard bar kit?
i wana get one of these on my Torry.
cheers
Evan.
who is mcdonald brothers? i tried googleing them with no result? , do they do the panhard bar kit?
i wana get one of these on my Torry.
cheers
Evan.
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Posted 16 April 2008 - 08:48 PM
would that mcdonald bro's kit be ok for me ? , im running standard torana suspension, not coil overs?
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Posted 30 October 2008 - 04:51 PM
where is the magical ride height of 4" measured from???
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:50 AM
Just a quick point is that you have to divide the front spting rate my 4 not 2. The reason is because of the motion ratio of 2:1 means when the wheel moves 2" the spring moves 1". Conversely this means the front wheel also has a 2:1 mechanical advantage.
Therefore this creates 2x2 = 4 and so you have to divide the front spring rate by 4.
This is why you have large spring rate on the front end.
Therefore this creates 2x2 = 4 and so you have to divide the front spring rate by 4.
This is why you have large spring rate on the front end.
Edited by Peter UC, 31 October 2008 - 11:56 AM.
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 01:47 PM
Thought it was to hold the engine off the ground....
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:47 PM
Thought it was to hold the engine off the ground....
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Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:28 PM
i think that is incorrect. you are doubling up on your ratios there.
the spring is mounted roughly half way along the arm, which gives a 2:1 ratio, and thats it.
the spring is mounted roughly half way along the arm, which gives a 2:1 ratio, and thats it.
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 02:18 PM
thought id add my 2c 
from my (limited) knowledge of suspension and what ive read trianglated 4 link is better than parrallel, suspension 1 , and suspension 2
the trianglated 4 link dosnt need a centring devise such as a watts link or a panhard becuse the trianglated upper arms control the pinion angle and stop lateral movement. if there is lateral movement it must be from flex in the bushes, the control arms or the mounts.
im not saying the torana suspension is the best design but its what we're stuck with, unless you redesign/fabricate the lot. no suspension is perfect, far from it all suspension is a comprimise, and if it was that good i ghess holden would still be using it. anyway like i said im no expert and the evidence on this forum says that a panhard or watts link is a improvment, so im probly just speaking out my arse
from my (limited) knowledge of suspension and what ive read trianglated 4 link is better than parrallel, suspension 1 , and suspension 2
the trianglated 4 link dosnt need a centring devise such as a watts link or a panhard becuse the trianglated upper arms control the pinion angle and stop lateral movement. if there is lateral movement it must be from flex in the bushes, the control arms or the mounts.
im not saying the torana suspension is the best design but its what we're stuck with, unless you redesign/fabricate the lot. no suspension is perfect, far from it all suspension is a comprimise, and if it was that good i ghess holden would still be using it. anyway like i said im no expert and the evidence on this forum says that a panhard or watts link is a improvment, so im probly just speaking out my arse
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Posted 05 March 2009 - 09:35 PM
I'm with you, mate! I was considering a panhard rod but I've since decided to stick with tubular trailing arms with Super Pro bushes and a slightly bigger diameter swaybar. This will minimise flex without causing any undue issues associated with adding linkages that weren't designed to be there.im not saying the torana suspension is the best design but its what we're stuck with, unless you redesign/fabricate the lot. no suspension is perfect, far from it all suspension is a comprimise, and if it was that good i ghess holden would still be using it.
Like you, I'm not saying this is the optimum setup, but it's the best I can do with what the good old General has supplied us.
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