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#1 FLY_AGAIN_XU-1

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 02:34 PM

In 1971 Holden produced a total of 700 LC GTR XU-1,s (According to the vin disk). From January to June 1971 Holden produced a total of 400 LC XU-1,s. The initial batch of 200 were for eligibility and the next batch of 200 being for homologation 1/1E.

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From very late August through to December 1971 Holden produced a further 300 LC GTR XU-1,s. These 300 cars are known as 1971 Bathurst XU-1,s. Homologation 2/2E.

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Allthough not successfull at Bathurst (1st in class) they went on to defeat the mighty Ford Falcon GT HO Phase III for the 1971 Manufactures Championship, truely earning there title as being Giant Killers. They also went on to win the Australian Rally Championship and numerous races throughout the year.
Of the 300 Bathurst LC GTR XU-1,s built it is said as few as 12 to 15 may still remain with us today.

GIANT KILLERS...........Ill say...................................

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 03:03 PM

Unbelievable that only so few may have survived compared to other factory specials that Holden has produced. But then again if you own one then you are one of the luckiest XU1 owners :rockon:

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Posted 18 April 2008 - 09:31 PM

Great thread Fly Again, thanks for the info :spoton:

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Posted 19 April 2008 - 10:28 PM

your info isnt very good :<_<: ,i know of at least that many surviving here in adelaide alone.

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 03:50 PM

would be interesting to find the correct number left and not hearsay amounts. All i hear is contradictions about how many left.I know of four in melbourne including mine, numbers matching and 3 in n.s.w and 1 in Q.L.D, but as for the rest of the country..Buggered if i know..

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Posted 20 April 2008 - 11:27 PM

would be interesting to find the correct number left and not hearsay amounts. All i hear is contradictions about how many left.I know of four in melbourne including mine, numbers matching and 3 in n.s.w and 1 in Q.L.D, but as for the rest of the country..Buggered if i know..

The ones left in melbourne what colours are they ?

They would have to be more rare then the 72 and 73 bathurst i would think..


I have never seen one for sale.

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 04:49 PM

would be interesting to find the correct number left and not hearsay amounts. All i hear is contradictions about how many left.I know of four in melbourne including mine, numbers matching and 3 in n.s.w and 1 in Q.L.D, but as for the rest of the country..Buggered if i know..

At least one lone o'ranger in Adelaide.

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 07:42 PM

Mine is glazier white, there is a lone o ranger, an amethyst, and a blue but dont know the exact color. :spoton:

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 04:25 AM

Thats not many so looks like their is not more then 10 of those beasts around.

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 07:29 PM

Rubbish!!

There is absolutely no basis on which to make a 'rarity' claim from the information available on this forum. You don't honestly think that, a) every '71 Bathurst owner is active on this forum, and b ) that if they were, that they would speak up and let the whole world know what's in their garage.

There are more than 10 still around, probably more than 15 :D !!

The Baroda Silver Mk11 from about a year ago on ebay hasn't been mentioned. Then there was a white one at the XU-1 nats which hasn't been mentioned, then there's another Baroda Silver Mk II that I used to own that hasn't been mentioned...etc, etc :rolleyes: .

Get a grip, this forum is not the whole #$%^ing Torana world!!

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 08:49 PM

Gee zook someone upset you. I couldnt give a shit how many there are. Im just participating in the whole forumn thing. Its called conversation

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 10:10 PM

Ha ha, no, not upset, but claiming that 'that's not many' on the basis of what has been written here has no basis in fact. No shit that's not many! There aren't that many XU-1 owners on here, compared to how many actually exist, is all I'm saying. There are a few here, but not all of them.

And just because I don't act like a sheep, blindly following the mob, doesn't mean that I am not conversing. I'm simply putting a different opinion forward. :D

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Posted 23 April 2008 - 11:20 PM

Zook the silver one last year was not all numbers matching as it did not have all 3 tags

Edited by gtr-xu1, 23 April 2008 - 11:28 PM.


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Posted 24 April 2008 - 02:01 AM

Rubbish!!

There is absolutely no basis on which to make a 'rarity' claim from the information available on this forum. You don't honestly think that, a) every '71 Bathurst owner is active on this forum, and b ) that if they were, that they would speak up and let the whole world know what's in their garage.

There are more than 10 still around, probably more than 15 :D !!

The Baroda Silver Mk11 from about a year ago on ebay hasn't been mentioned. Then there was a white one at the XU-1 nats which hasn't been mentioned, then there's another Baroda Silver Mk II that I used to own that hasn't been mentioned...etc, etc :rolleyes: .

Get a grip, this forum is not the whole #$%^ing Torana world!!

zook mate we are just chatting see we now know that their is a Baroda Silver one.
I am just interested in finding out the colours, I don't care what anyone says but reckon they are the rarest xu1 i wish i had one.

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Posted 24 April 2008 - 11:44 PM

We own a 10th month 71 ck block Baroda Silver mII and have owned it for 10 years but it is under a full resto. I know of 2 other baroda silver xu1's and one of them is also a ck and not to sure about the other.

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 01:30 AM

We own a 10th month 71 ck block Baroda Silver mII and have owned it for 10 years but it is under a full resto. I know of 2 other baroda silver xu1's and one of them is also a ck and not to sure about the other.

Nice mate your gonna have to post some pics of your restoration.

Wasn't their another bloke on here restoring one as well i think his user name was
John or gong.
He use to do a really good job on his restorations but havn't seen him on for a while.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 05:05 PM

I have never seen one for sale.

There is a Plumdinger one in the latest issue of Unique Cars (no 285, Page 180).

Yours for a mere $120k.

Seller claims it is the last of 504 1971 Bathurst LCs made and comes with a
"186S engine (Bathurst)" ????????????

Everything I have read indicates 1971 Bathurst cars have CK prefixed engines.

D.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 06:47 PM

this is what i have chased up 7 in melbourne, 6 in sydney 4 in brisbane 4 in wa and there seems to be 7 in adelaide and lets not forget that there is 2 in tassie. these recoeds are of what i keep only, i know the colours of these cars and also know what of them are reshells, and the rarest one of them has houndstooth intirior. please keep in mind that there are cars still sitting out there what we dont know about, so these are only what i know of. so that brings the total of 1971 bathurst toranas to 30.

cheers john

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 08:42 AM

hi john i knew of about 15 at 1 point in time in sa, one has a "prime id "plate and is a ex privateer rally car,inlcuding your seven,that would add up to around 38 or so still remaining ,and as you point out there are still the ones yet to be found/identified.


footnote;one i identified was racing at mallala in group "nc" the owner had no idea,he was floored ,and its never been seen out there again, :rolleyes: original colour white.cheers daz :D

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 09:56 PM

this is what i have chased up 7 in melbourne, 6 in sydney 4 in brisbane 4 in wa and there seems to be 7 in adelaide and lets not forget that there is 2 in tassie. these recoeds are of what i keep only, i know the colours of these cars and also know what of them are reshells, and the rarest one of them has houndstooth intirior. please keep in mind that there are cars still sitting out there what we dont know about, so these are only what i know of. so that brings the total of 1971 bathurst toranas to 30.

cheers john

Hi Tuffgong it was you that i was talking about, How are your rebuilds going as i used to always follow your threads on the rebuids especially the lime green xu1 that you were rebuilding.

Would love to see some pics of that car once you are finished. :D

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Posted 23 December 2008 - 05:50 PM

In 1971 Holden produced a total of 700 LC GTR XU-1,s (According to the vin disk). From January to June 1971 Holden produced a total of 400 LC XU-1,s. The initial batch of 200 were for eligibility and the next batch of 200 being for homologation 1/1E.

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Why are,nt these 200 1971 LC XU-1,s known as Bathurst XU-1,s ? After all they were built to homologate what is traditionally known as the 1971 Bathurst camshaft, the XH.




And 5H Needles..............





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Posted 24 December 2008 - 09:09 AM

The engine numbers would hold the key as to if holden deemed them to be a bathrust car.

Bit easier with the LC's as opposed to LJ's

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 09:37 AM

Hi Fly

According to the Nasco Parts Catalogue for the LC - the "XH" cam was part number 2823364. This part number carried through to the LJ XU-1.

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Edited by Bazza, 24 December 2008 - 09:38 AM.


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Posted 24 December 2008 - 12:33 PM

G/Day Baz

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Part number 2822075 Lift .429" (10.89mm)
Part number 2823364 Lift .429" (10.89mm)

Cam grind is identical though timing was varied slightly. They done the same in 1970 however the part numbers 2815739 remained the same.

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 12:55 PM

G/Day Baz

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Part number 2822075 Lift .429" (10.89mm)
Part number 2823364 Lift .429" (10.89mm)

Cam grind is identical though timing was varied slightly. They done the same in 1970 however the part numbers 2815739 remained the same.



Hi Fly

I don't understand your point. Why isn't 2822075 in the catalogue? Did it have "XH" stamped on it too?

I know you will get to the bottom of it.

Cheers and Merry Christmas

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