Hi All
After finally puttin the heads back on to my 308 went to start it it coughed n the started motor has died sent to out auto elec today he said its sheared all the gears and everythin inside it looks cheap and nasty so he wasn't surprised!! it was a hi torque/Gear reduction starter! Im after another one maybe a bit better quality Can anyone suggest A DECENT starter motor
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Starter Motors 308
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, Jul 07 2008 07:23 PM
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:34 PM
why dont you just go and buy a 304 starter motor, theyre pretty good quality and are actually cheaper then standard 308 starters and to top it off they appear to be high torque. well the one i bought is and i believe i only bought a stock 304 starter motor
cheers adam
cheers adam
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:51 PM
Should have asked your auto elect? 
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:19 PM
I did he said same thing bosch 304 item, Just with the 11:1 comp etc i was lookin for something good n strong ive been look at the castle auto elec ones they do a 1.9hp and a 2.5hp starter but not sure if there any good also fair pricey!
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:50 PM
ive got about the same compression ratio and have had mine on there since i installed this engine over 3 years ago and have never had a problemJust with the 11:1 comp etc i was lookin for something good n strong
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 09:14 PM
I didn't think CVR made them for holdens? Only chevs fords etc
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 09:19 PM
Yep they sure do if you look closely you can just see it
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 10:32 PM
il check it out can i ask what u paid? N your happy?
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Posted 08 July 2008 - 12:28 AM
just use the 304 one from the vr upwards commodore, theyre high torque, and are small and compact, mines been going for 3 years, never faulted and the heat doesnt affect it either,
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Posted 08 July 2008 - 12:19 PM
FYI:
The Bosch part number is BXH136 for the factory Holden style starters (these are a 1.4kW small, high-torque starter motor) - as fitted to VN, VP, VR, VS and VQ 5.0 litre Commodores. Bolt straight up to the earlier 253 and 308 engines if you have extractors fitted. (I tried fitting one to my 253 with standard factory exhaust manifolds, but it just fouled).
I do know a lot of guys running them though on their hot 308's with pretty high comp - no problems at all. Bosch also sell 2 knurled bolts if you don't have them already.
And if you want to go all-out, you can also fit a heat-shield off a later model Commodore - this is what Sam (Liam) did on his stroker. Came up like a dream. I can't remember what model this came off though.
The Bosch part number is BXH136 for the factory Holden style starters (these are a 1.4kW small, high-torque starter motor) - as fitted to VN, VP, VR, VS and VQ 5.0 litre Commodores. Bolt straight up to the earlier 253 and 308 engines if you have extractors fitted. (I tried fitting one to my 253 with standard factory exhaust manifolds, but it just fouled).
I do know a lot of guys running them though on their hot 308's with pretty high comp - no problems at all. Bosch also sell 2 knurled bolts if you don't have them already.
And if you want to go all-out, you can also fit a heat-shield off a later model Commodore - this is what Sam (Liam) did on his stroker. Came up like a dream. I can't remember what model this came off though.
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 06:30 PM
Good memory Brett!
Heat shield was from a VZ, 99% sure. Both have worked beautifully for the 2 years I've had them in, no probs with the starter turning over my high comp motor, the previous cheap n nasty lasted about 2 months.
Cheers,
p.s whos this Liam bloke you are talking about,
Heat shield was from a VZ, 99% sure. Both have worked beautifully for the 2 years I've had them in, no probs with the starter turning over my high comp motor, the previous cheap n nasty lasted about 2 months.
Cheers,
p.s whos this Liam bloke you are talking about,
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Posted 09 July 2008 - 10:53 PM
any gen 3 heatshield for the starter motor fits perfectly on the 304 starter, works a treat, just clips over the solenoid,
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 03:59 PM
My recently purchased LH 5 Litre has a similar issue since day 1 with failing to crank after 1hr of running on a hot day (35+). Let it cool down and no problem. I suspected the ignition switch but that checked out and was about to buy a new starter motor when I saw the posts about the heat shield. Will try that and see how it goes as there is definitly no issue when its just warm. Surprised that engine heat would impact such a high current device. Should be pretty easy to test in the current Melb summer.
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Posted 04 January 2016 - 02:50 AM
11.3 comp here and running a standard bosch starter motor, cranks over fine!
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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:28 AM
Gents, is anyone using Pacemaker headers with their 304 starter and if so are there any clearance problems. Cheers Ron
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Posted 04 January 2016 - 12:08 PM
13:1 Compression here. Running standard Bosch 304 starter with no issues....touch wood...
Its allot smaller then the 308 one I originally had. Solenoid is just in a slightly different place is the only thing I noticed. (original starter was with the car when I bought it so not 100% sure what it was off)
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Posted 04 January 2016 - 08:34 PM
I still use the factory starter. Turns the 383 with 11.3 comp and hyd roller over just fine. The CAE 1.75 inch primary Tri Y pipes clear it well. Never had a problem with hot starting which may be the result of HPC coated pipes and good earth connections from engine to chassis. Battery is in the boot.
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Posted 04 January 2016 - 09:21 PM
I still use the factory starter. Turns the 383 with 11.3 comp and hyd roller over just fine. The CAE 1.75 inch primary Tri Y pipes clear it well. Never had a problem with hot starting which may be the result of HPC coated pipes and good earth connections from engine to chassis. Battery is in the boot.
Just wondering how you earthed the block, was it a direct lead to the battery? Through the interior or under?
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Posted 04 January 2016 - 11:05 PM
Block to chassis x2 with big cable. Battery is earthed to boot area.
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