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[Evan]

heya guys
just wondering what flares i have got.
i have reason to believe that i have SS flares, after i looked at rims post comparing the 2 and why my 295/50's hit them all the time.
what do you think






Cheers
Evan.

[Collo]

Wouldnt have a clue mate but thats a mighty fine lookin torana.

[mrlctorana]

I think your right evan, But mate that is one very sweet looking hatch you've got there, Love that colour........ "Green is Nice"

[MRLXSS]

Your flares dont seem to stick out all that much... But L34 flares (The smaller ones) Only came on 4 Doors, So unless your Hatchback moulds were designed from L34 moulds, i have no idea why yours would be smaller...

It Could be the offset of your wheels, after all 295's are massive tyres and would scrub on most Flared toranas! Do you know the offset of your wheels?

[Evan]

chers for the comments guys.
i will do a Projects and plans thread soon as it han been a few years since i did one.
The wheels on the back are 15x10 Performance challangers on the rear and 8's on the front. They are 0 offset i beleve. 5 inches either way in to out.

Evan.

[MRLXSS]

I run 15x10 with 5" backspace too... So You have the right offset... Have you parked your car next to another hatch with flares to see the difference? It might be worth buying some new rears and having them painted

[REDA9X]

The pictures aren't clear enough to tell, do those rear flares go all the way to the bottom of the sill? BTW, there is no such thing as SS flares (talking factory), the A9X was the only hatch to have factory flares, and if you had a dealer fit flares, you got A9X ones. To me your offset looks all wrong on the rear. The rear rims sit out way to far, while the fronts sit in a long way, I would be interested to see how your track is. 295's should fit under the flares with no problem at all. Here is an A9X hatch with the flares removed. It is wearing 275/50 15's on the rear. You can see if the original guard was not cut, these would just about fit.
here is another pic with flares fitted

[REDA9X]

Dont know if this is a stupid question, but did the guards have to be cut on both the green and red lx's to get those wheels and that height setup? cheers

yes, guards need to be cut

[Evan]

Cheers for the good opinions guys.
Red is on the money.
Yes the flares go all the way to the bottom of the sill.

I suppose hein-sight is a beautiful thing but before i found out about challenger rims i was going to run commodore pattern rims so i went for a commodore offset when i was getting my Borg warner chopped. think it was made 25mm wider than standard. hence the rims stick out a bit more.
It has hoppers kit on the front which i orderd to commodore offset to match the rear.
the fronts are 225/50's and they just fit in, they hit on the firewall at full lock , even with the little lip on the firewall ground off. And the front flare tickled a bit too. I thort that having a wider offset would increase max tyre size, not reduce it.

looking at this comparison that rim posted, and i know they are for a 4 door but my flares do look smaller. looking down on them with a ruler they are about 6cm wide.

Here are some more pics of the car, and when i cut the guards. Which are too low still, they have to be cut again ffs!!!

Edited by Evan, 08 July 2008 - 06:34 PM.

[REDA9X]

comparing that last pic to the similar pic I posted, i think (if there is a differnce in flare size) by putting the flares off the A9X on your car, those wheels would still struggle to fit.

[Evan]

hmmm, so pretty much the verdict is that there is only really one type of flare for a hatchback.
.
So whats with my fronts scraping? they are only 225/50/15's surly i can get fatter on the front. Doesnt litre8 have 265's on 17inch rims?

Evan.

[REDA9X]

From the factory
L34 and A9X sedan and hatch front flares are identical
L34 rear flares were smaller and can be easily identified by the location of the lowest bolt location on the door. The L34 lowest bolt is on the end of the flare.
A9X sedan rear flares are wider (some still had L34 flares fitted) and easily identified by the lowest blot on the door being in the front face of the flare
Since the A9X hatch was the only hatch to ever have flares from the factory, only one type was made for the rear. However, various aftermarket companies have made various versions of all the flares over the years, some have done a better job than others.

I will be doing some measurements and seeing what the differences are exactly, but in the meantime, check these pictures for a comparison on 2 original A9X hatches.

[REDA9X]

Rory, i totally missed that. That would explain it for sure.
Why your fronts scrape, it could be offset again. I have the same combination as you, 225/50/15 on the front and my flares are the original shape, uncut. The level of the car and ride height could come into it too.

[Evan]

front are lowered 1200 pound springs.
rears are standard ride height. I Changed out my old springs in the rear for new lowered springs (cos i thort it already had lowered springs in) and it sat on the flares. So in went the old standard height springs.

In WA im pretty sure that there is only one place to get Flares from. I mite give him a call and take it the torry around and compare the two as i don't know where my flares came from as they were on the car when i purchased it. Other than that is there some way we could measure our flares to see if there is a difference?

Evan.

[Evan]

i will build the car around those rims Rory they look tough as !!! Seeing your post convinced me to get some.
didn't you have some?
have you put the car through its paces yet with such little clearances? I swear that my rear end moves a few inches. the front not so bad but just annoying.


Evan.

Edited by Evan, 08 July 2008 - 08:38 PM.

[Evan]

working out some rolling diameter figures, tell me what you think. On litre8 website it doesn't state the profile of the slick he runs, so i worked out what it could be knowing that it must be smaller than ours if it doesn't scrub.


15x8 with 225/50
38.1 Rim diameter
11.25 one sidewall.
60.6 cm rolling diameter


litre8
17x10 with 265/30?
43.18 rim diameter
7.95 One sidewall
56.08 Rolling diameter

Correct me if i am wrong.

Edited by Evan, 08 July 2008 - 09:01 PM.

[TerrA LX]

hmmm, so pretty much the verdict is that there is only really one type of flare for a hatchback.

be carefull assuming, there were many people cashing in on these over the years and there could well have been a manufacture that didn't quite get it right size wise.