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#1 lxsstorana

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 06:19 PM

I'm sure this has happened to everyone, whether you own a torana or not.

You pay good money to have someone fix/modify your car and they do a poor job. Or you buy a car with certain expectations on quality (as they told you) and they let you down.

This is not aimed at anyone in particular but just giving me the opportunity to blow off some steam.

As many people would know I'm restoring a SS torana with a 383 chev (unfinished project).

I've fixed so many things on this car that the former owner paid top dollar for that he would be horrified (not his problem now but mine) but none the less, bad workmanship.

Well this was the last straw. I am getting the car ready so I can start the engine and thought I would do the final checks such as distributor, spark plugs, fuel etc.

The distributor cap looks fine from the front.

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But once I remove it, I see what it looks like from behind

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Well that was it for me, "What sort or idiot does this?"

A quick trip to Rare Spare and I have to order in a $60.00 MSD distributor cap which arrived the next day. Not cheap but MSD are supposed to be good but before I can fit the new cap I have to fit the existing problem. And I repeat again, the former owner paid big dollars to sort everything out.

The distributor is too close to the firewall. It is under extreme pressure and cannot sit flat on its mounting.

So out come the hammer and angle grinder and about 30 minutes later the problem is solved.

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Well thats my gripe, I'm sure you guys can top this or tell us about similar events.

Mick.

P.S. I'm going to update my members project plans and talk about some good news soon.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 06:35 PM

I try and do most of what i can myself to avoid dissapointment, but yeah, just when you think you have seen it all, along comes another.
Good luck with the progress. :spoton:

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 06:39 PM

Workmanship, most people wouldn't know what is was

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 06:41 PM

unbelieveable , nice work on the repair :spoton:

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 07:20 PM

Hooly Fricken DOOLY!

That's WAAAAY worse than what we found on my car! That's... incredible!!

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 07:38 PM

I supplied a linelock to a local brake place that I had purchased brand new all instructions included and asked if they could install (should have done myself) they fitted it but problem was that it locked my back brakes ! go figure still to this day have nothing to do with brake joint which is hard being small town ! Line locker is still fitted but non operative ! ( For all reading line locker should work on front brakes leaving back wheels free to spin )

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 07:46 PM

OMG, these guys run a business lol.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:00 PM

I supplied a linelock to a local brake place that I had purchased brand new all instructions included and asked if they could install (should have done myself) they fitted it but problem was that it locked my back brakes ! go figure still to this day have nothing to do with brake joint which is hard being small town ! Line locker is still fitted but non operative ! ( For all reading line locker should work on front brakes leaving back wheels free to spin )


You learn something new everyday, i actually thought they stopped the back brakes from working not lock the fronts. Either way nice job from the brake shop , NOT!

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:09 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one this stuff happens to.

Mick.


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Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:12 PM

So the fix to fit it to fit was break the dizzy cap? ARE YOU SERIOUS?>?? OMG!

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:15 PM

Old skool
Vented cap, goes with vented points.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:34 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one this stuff happens to.

Mick.


It really does sadden me the stories I've heard and the actual situations I've seen over the years and alot of the time the consumer does not have a leg to stand on.
I think we would be all better off if these traders did not exist.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:36 PM

So the fix to fit it to fit was break the dizzy cap? ARE YOU SERIOUS?>?? OMG!


Yeap, that was the last straw that pissed me off, and if you weren't checking these things you would never know.

I don't know alot about chev motors in torana's but I have alot of room between the radiator and the front of the motor. I reckon the mechanic sat the motor too far back into the engine bay. I would have moved it 50mm (2 inches) forward then you would have much more room.

Anyway, I not moving the engine so it was easier to modifiy the firewall and gutter. The gutter was grinded a little bit before I attacked it but I had to take another 7-8 mm out of it. It also reshaped the firewall and put a slight curve into it (about 10mm further back) so everything should be good now. Just needs a little bit of filler and paint.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:42 PM

^ it will handle better where it is, so all good imo.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 07:24 AM

I think that's a fairly standard problem for a chev into Torana Mick, but yeah.. your fix is the RIGHT one!!

Cutting a dizzy cap.. who the HELL would even THINK of that!!


Slydog:
I've got my line lock installed in my rear brake line... when you flick the switch (DO NOT HOLD THE BRAKE ON WHILE ARMING) it closes the solenoid which isolates the rear brakes from pressure hence giving you full control of the fronts.

The NORMAL way of doing it is to put it in the front brake circuit so you hold brakes on... Hold the button which locks the front brakes ON while you do the skid.. release the button and off you go.

When you activate your line lock, do you have your foot ON the brakes (Thereby locking pressure IN the rear brakes and locking them on!). If so.. try it with foot off the brakes, THEN activate it!

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 08:14 AM

Is that one of those 'lightened' dizzy caps?

I've heard about them! LOL

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 08:50 AM

I've got my line lock installed in my rear brake line... when you flick the switch (DO NOT HOLD THE BRAKE ON WHILE ARMING) it closes the solenoid which isolates the rear brakes from pressure hence giving you full control of the fronts.


I thought that was the way they were meant to be :fool:

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 09:01 AM

i could write a very long essay on this.but i think your dizzy effort takes the cake

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 09:02 AM

Depends on the intended use for the line lock - not much good on the rear if you don't have enough feet to operate the brake pedal

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 09:07 AM

About 15 years ago, I paid an auto electrician good money for a general tidy up/hide the wiring in the Torana and wire in a new MSD 6AL and a Mallory Unilite distributor.

Below was the end result.

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#21 Litre8

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 10:25 AM

Holy crap, looks like it was performed by a 3 year old...

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 11:31 AM

I have seen Ants electric job b4...I would be taking a fair trading claim out on him...like I will be doing with the below if some money is not forthcoming my way..



I sent my Suzuki GSXR1100 to the local SUZUKI dealer for a tune..5 months...yes...5 months later and having had the carbs off 5 times and supposedly pulling them down and cleaned them..I went and picked it up...still running shithouse.....at the new mechanics place...we find they had snapped of the vacuum brass tube on the outside of the 4th carb...was never going to be right..after we pulled the carbs down..the jets were full of crusty white stuff from where water had sat in the bowls.....needless to say we will be having a chat about the bill I paid when I get it back from the current mechanics running right with dirt jets and parts in my hand.
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 11:36 AM

Nice fix and good workmanship :)

I thought I had seen it all (well most) but cutting the dizzy cap is new to me :) Ya have to wonder what sort of brain these peanuts have, assuming they have one at all.

Cheers
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Posted 29 November 2008 - 01:18 PM

I ended up repairing the wiring mess myself. It's only a temporary repair but at least it's safe.


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I know all auto sparkys shouldn't be tarred with the same brush but I've done a lot of repairs for friends/family becuase of dodgy work performed by auto electricians. Most of the faults are from poor soldering. I think they must be taught "Bigger the blob, the better the job!" when it comes to soldering.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 03:36 PM

What sorta line locker kits are we talking about here guys? :spoton:




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