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[rodomo]

If the car was already registered, there would be a chance you could just go to vicroads, have them check the new number, and there would be no problem. (This would hinge on who checks the car)

However, if this is a new rego that involves a road worthy certificate, it shouldn't pass road worthy without an engineers report for at least the brakes and also floorpan and crossmember mods.

Edited by rodomo, 09 December 2008 - 08:46 PM.

[Ice]

Any mods done on brake upgrade and diff need engineers reports in w.a. any way dont know about victoria.

[enderwigginau]

NSW and QLD require cats on ULP engines and restrictors in the filler. QLD (not sure about NSW) requires the UNLEADED FUEL ONLY sticker too!! (Remember, Lead replacement has been gone a while now )

And that has been checked by me a number of times.
ACT obviously needs to look into some of the air pollution research and change their tune.
Makes it easier and cheaper though eh Herne!!

the car is complianced to the ADR's not the motor

Ahhh, no. The ADRs for the VEHICLE as a whole are listed. i.e
The emissions ADRs listed relate to the factory installed engine.
Once you remove the factory installed engine, you must comply with the appropriate ADRs.
There must have been a seminar or fact sheet because I have heard that almost word for word from two different engineers.

This is QLD, but it will give you an idea: Motor Vehicle Modifications
Here is the National Guideline : National Code of Practice for Motor Vehicle Modifications An engineer will know every clause in this document, but how they interpret it may be different.

Grant..

[TerrA LX]

In my experience with the RTA in NSW it goes on the vintage of the engine number and the chassis number, example, you can bolt VN gear onto your 1977 block and comply with 1977 ADR's but if you bolt a later motor in you must comply with the later, complete ADR's, of that motor.
No engineers required if they fall under owner modifications.

Maybe best you talk to someone WHO HAS DONE the conversion IN YOUR STATE.

[yel327]

Here is a link to the basic NSW reuirements:

http://www.rta.nsw.g...ns_nov_2007.pdf

It is sort of vague but as far as I understand how the RTA interprets it (went through this recently with a VP 304 into a HZ) you must fit all the bits relevant to the engine if the engine is subject to a later ADR, where an early engine can be upgraded. This seems to normally include cats and ULP filler neck etc, BUT i've never understood why as the ADR relevant to ULP belongs with the CAR not the engine. So you should be able to fit say a VP engine complete into an LH using the canister and standard ECU (inc Memcal) off the VP but no cats. However no Engineers I know will certify it that way - they make you use the cats and the filler neck as that is what the RTA says has to happen.

[Redslur]

Different states and territories interpret rules differently. Some have aligned with the NCOP while others are in the process of doing so. Even though there will be a generic code for all to follow, different states and territories will interpret and apply their own rules. In ACT you apply the emissions to the car not the engine, in NSW you apply the engine emissions to the car. Regardless, an injected engine is not offered as an option in a Torana so would require certification under the NCOP.

[TerrA LX]

in NSW you apply the engine emissions to the car.

You can not put a HQ 308 in a VS and have it registered in NSW.

[yel327]

You can not put a HQ 308 in a VS and have it registered in NSW.

True, but you can use a HQ block if it's rebuilt to VS specs, although it won't fit unless you use a gearbox adapter.

[Redslur]

Some people choose to take things out of context! No mention of HQ motors in a Commodore in this thread! Anyway, if you choose to use a HQ motor in a Commodore and could demonstrate its compliance of the relevant ADR's, there is no reason that it couldn't be done. We are not helping anyone here are we?

Edited by Redslur, 14 December 2008 - 06:49 PM.