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#1 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 11:28 AM

this is my mazda 808. its a family car that my dad bought for his mum off the original owner. my grandad took unbelievable care in it so the motor was beautiful but unfortunately they lived on the coast and the 20 odd years took its toll. my dad got it back when they upgraded and it was my brothers first car, then it was mine. its a dream to drive. eventually had a head rebuild which had me off the road a while, thats wen i found my torry :spoton:

and swapped the mazda to mum (we bought the torry for me instead of a new car for mum lol) then mum got a new car and the mazda went into the shed. now im puttin the old girl (bertha) back on the road so the torry and the mini will fit downstairs for their work. basically the car is a gem, everything is 100% original except my black and white tile lino floor covers i made in highschool when the carpets got wrecked :tease:

the engine is super sweet jus needs a cleanup and the interior needs a lot of work. so the first steps are find the rust, then the plan is to weld everything i can, so there is as little bog as possible. this is my learning curve for all my car work, im basically teaching myself how to do this stuff. i know how to weld (which doesnt make me a welder

) and i have steel to do the job. the rust is in all 4 lower windows and one of the doors one guard and two reinforcement arms which are under the guards. this car has lots of fiddly curves and corners and chrome strips to go everywhere so everything has to be awful close. this isnt a car thats gonna be busted into a rotary its a real classic as it is and im sure one day itll be one of the last of its kind ie no rotary. here are some pics of the progress, its been sitting waiting for a long time..

SMDC0112.JPG 70.8K 50 downloadsas it sits in the shed right now

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SMDC0114.JPG 57.38K 24 downloadsmost of the rust thats out on it is pretty fiddly

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SMDC0117.JPG 78.11K 20 downloadsbig fan of fishoil :rockon:

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SMDC0119.JPG 93.18K 22 downloadsmaking some cut outs to try cut the strips for welding

SMDC0124.JPG 92.68K 32 downloads 200 hp... hen power

SMDC0126.JPG 72.07K 28 downloadsits a bit of a dog

SMDC0122.JPG 86.74K 15 downloadsbackseat is rooted

SMDC0115.JPG 75.86K 11 downloadsnice brown vinyl matches the original colour

shes my baby and ill keep it forever. ill post up as i go at the same time doing the new paint on the torry

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#2 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 09:00 AM

got into the rust in the hols cut it back square after making some cardboard templates for the panels to replace. i cut and shaped some steel to match the templates and cut out the rust to clean metal. i just used hammers and dolly's to shape the repair sections, and just kept checking them to the shape. the biggest problem will be the welds right down in the corner as it needs to be smooth for the windscreen to get in there but it needs to be welded or all the rust just comes back. every step is getting oiled and rustproofed even if i have to do it twice.

SMDC0128.JPG 85.98K 17 downloads the card templates are on all 4 lower corners makes it easier to cut and tack it all

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SMDC0130.JPG 98.15K 11 downloadsthis is just a straight section but its reinforcement so ill prob use thicker steel to weld on

SMDC0133.JPG 90.15K 12 downloads im cutting the bits off a spare guard that was cut and flared, so no bloody good to anyone.

SMDC0135.JPG 101.95K 17 downloads tapped into shape around the corner still on the car

SMDC0137.JPG 78.77K 17 downloadsthis was a hard curve to do so i cut it as much as i could.

SMDC0139.JPG 80.41K 21 downloads shaped metal ready for tacking and welding once i get the 'L' sections cut too.

SMDC0141.JPG 74.19K 19 downloads beats the shit out of bog

ive got the interior out and im brushing and proofing the floor with a plasti base rust converter/primer, u cant see this panel so it doesnt matter but u cant use the stuff under topcoat. interior needs a trim the back seat is in trouble.

i kno its not a torana and i know its not even a holden but this car is really important to me and im sure some of you can appreciate itas classic nature even just because its old.
nic

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#3 GML-31

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 10:45 AM

a good car to practice on

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#4 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 10:18 AM

broke the F***kin windscreen. probly irreplaceable :( been having at it with the mig im nearly done on the body. pics soon. not worried bout replies anymore its a good place to keep a record.

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#5 _Squarepants_

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 11:20 AM

Looks like you're doing a bang up job there mate! I love that you're enthusiastic about the car for sentimental reasons, that's kind of why I rebuilt my Tory.
You should be able to get a new windscreen from Novus or any of the windscreen specialists.
When welding in the tight corners, use a pneumatic (or electric if you don't have a compressor) die grinder with a small radiused burr. Even a Dremmel would prolly do. Otherwise see if you can weld the underside before you weld it into the car. If you sit it all in position and give it a few light tacks on top to hold it together in shape, then pull it out to weld it fully underneath (being careful not to distort the shape), then you just have to clean up the small tacks on top.
Hope it all goes well, but when it's done, just be prepared for all the w*nkers telling you that you should put a rotary in it. :spoton:

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#6 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 02:16 PM

had it bout 5 years so ive heard alot of that! been offered dollars for it too but i cant let it go.ive actually done the rear corners now and just used a drill for the big bits. it all goes under a rubber seal thing anyway. its the rust proofin that needs to be perfect. im pretty bloody happy with my welding ability:D its all comin together. pics tonight if i can manage
cheers for the reply!!

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#7 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 09:54 PM

this is a bit i tapped into shape for the rear windscreen, i did the same for the other side. its all one piece.
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after the weld, its really just a load of tacks then 1cm welds all as far apart as possible so it wont warp. the ups an downs are cost its really hard togrind in a level line lol when i couldnt figur the angles i just cut little pieces and welded them in like the little square right in the corner.
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this is the support where i practiced gettin the mig goin well. i used steel off a valiant to strengthen it, came up a treat. it'll hold awesome an no rust under it, there are holes so i can fill it with rust proof stuff.
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other side after i cut it straight as i could. reall happy with it. its not straight cos i gave it a good beating so it didnt touch the guard.
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this is the othe side all cut and ground. i definately need a die grinder lol

i reckon i got it pretty straight all the chrome fits back on an the window fits. i love havin the mig!!!

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#8 _johnharte_

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 09:46 PM

Great pics and commentary!!

Keep them coming...

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#9 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 01 May 2009 - 01:45 PM

took the dash out today so i can weld on the front screen... the torana has about 10-12 screws to remove the whole dash the mazda had.....wait for it.... 35 nuts bolts and screws in all kinds of f*ked up angles. christ knows how ill put it back. the dash comes out in 8 parts... wat were the japs thinking?

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#10 _LXATIV_

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Posted 01 May 2009 - 02:44 PM

they weren't. i think thats the problem

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#11 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 01:39 PM

well got into it this morning, and finished the front right windscreen corner. so many curves but i managed to tap it enough and it turned out magic.
here are the pics of all the steps. the comments are above the pics this time.
this is the reinforcement under the curve i shaped a new bit with a hammer and dolly and fudged the angle. then i covered it all in rust primer
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all welded this stops the duct panel from flexing at the corner.
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this is the corer channel. it looks straight but its got a wanker curve in it took a while.
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this is it in position
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this is all the bits where they will sit.
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all tacked up tapping all the time. after these tacks i just keep halving the distance between til they are about half a CM apart then weld it bit by bit.
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all welded
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ground off looks a million bucks
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next up is one last corner then bog it back to smooth shape.
sorry for all the pics!

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#12 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 04:16 PM

all four corners done and half one guard. ill be on the road soon!!! then the torry gets cut :rockon:

i opened up the sill today looks ok but near the passenger kick panel is full of pin holes.... looks difficult. wish me luck!

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 06:40 PM

Coming along great Nic. Keep at it

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 08:17 PM

If your welder has the option,back your wire off a touch.

And I know that it is difficult sometimes,but clean (spotless) surfaces will make your welding job a lot easier.

As you know,grinding is a pain in the arse.

Coming along well.

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#15 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 09:02 PM

its low as it can be and its .6 wire. thing is the metal on this is so damn thin i gotta butt it up right together which makes it so high. if i do it thinner it burns grinding don bother me im gettin full penetration with the welds which is the most important thing.
cheers

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#16 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 04:48 PM

got some more progress pics, this is the top front of the guard
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#17 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 04:57 PM

got some more progress pics, this is the top front of the guard i transplanted
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this is the bottom of the guard before i started
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first section. im doing it in parts so it holds its shape otherwise it'll never be right.
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last windscreen corner before grinding.
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more photos to come.

ive been trying some lower wire speeds but its different for every section. and ive been cleaning the immediate weld area alot more before i start,
cheers

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#18 _Squarepants_

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 07:46 PM

Go Son!!!

You're getting there, mate! Keep at it, you'll have the sweetest stocko 808 on the road soon!
You should put a rotary in it!!! :tease:

Ha ha.
Can't wait to see this thing finished.
Make sure you post some pics of your repairs when they're ground back and etch primed, so we can see how little bog is going to be required to smooth them out! (All the repairs will still need a certain amount of smoothing, the better you do them, the less the smoothing needed)
A skim of bog is not neccessarily a bad thing if done properly. Better than filling holes with it, anyway!

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#19 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 08:42 PM

oh she'll need the bog alright, those windscreen corners have chrome surrounds which follow the exact line of the 90 degree edge i had to fabricate. ill put a pic of it up. grinding or welding that shape is impossible but it'll jus be a scrape of the beige to fix it all up. this car is gonna be so solid, grandad would be proud.

if i ever get the bastard dash back in that is. lol. ive done that guard in full now, about 6 pieces all up and the shape is all good :spoton:

other guard is ok-ish, jus doin the firewall and then the doors, become a bog artist an teach myself to undercoat lol. i think i can handle the new floor for the mini now!! i might get a baby torry next...

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#20 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 10:27 PM

this is the four different sections all tacked one at a time the fully welded. doin it like this meant i could follow the curves so i didnt have to fabricate the lot.
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i actually did some welds from above, some from beneath it helps to stop it warping with this thin metal. the mazda is easy 2/3 the guage of torana steel an half of a valiant, but its got some of both welded in lol
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the puppy, lookin decidedly freaky lol
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#21 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 10:34 PM

jus for comparison; before
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and after

sorry bout all the pics this is brilliant for showin the family an stuff.
cheers
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#22 wot179

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 10:52 PM

Try cleanig the underside of the metal too if you can.A good hard rub with some scotchbrite works well.
It prevents all the dirt and crap sucking up through the weld and contaminating it.
Also try to remove the paint from your patch panels before you make them.It has to come off anyway before you bog it up,and it stops the edges where you are welding getting thin from grinding the paint off.
Have you noticed that sometimes the tacks are great but other times the metal just blows away and you have to fill a big gap with weld?
The reason is variation in metal thickness and contamination from paint and crap that hasnt been completely removed.

Good luck,Craig.

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#23 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 11:34 PM

yeah im startin to notice jus how lazy i am sometimes, i clean it both sides but im not meticulous, i rarely get the paint off the whole patch and i quite often jus tap the edge with the grinder.. enough of this "it'll do attitude, i know how to do it right so stop bein a dick nic! i noticed how good it is when i do a full carefull job like some of the corner bits. cheers for ur advice craig i kno ur right too lol. gonna go buy some paint stripper discs lol.

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#24 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:39 PM

well pranged the torana so im in a rush to fix it before rego but i really dunno if i can manage it. so if i miss it ill put it away and do the resto. so in the meantime ill put a few holiday hours into the MADAZ. bought a die grinder to get those hard to reach places and the doors will be next.

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#25 _torana_umunga74_

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 11:05 AM

weel i just found out UC torana headlights fit in the mazda with very little buggerising about! so now the mazda has some torry blood lol. some torry steel in there too. im nearly done, corners look good (pics soon) ill need a new guard eventually cos its jus too messed up under the paint on it it was all bent and bogged. got the new bonnet and bumper ill jus need to pput the interior back togeth and blue slip.

anyone know a reasonable trimmeer in newie? i just want some quotes i spose.