Why did Holden stop making the Torana?
#26
Posted 08 March 2006 - 11:17 PM
LH was very close to Chevy Vega looking at the front.
RACV MAN
#27
Posted 09 March 2006 - 12:10 PM
#28
Posted 09 March 2006 - 12:16 PM
#29 _Yella SLuR_
Posted 09 March 2006 - 12:23 PM
#30 _devilsadvocate_
Posted 09 March 2006 - 12:26 PM
These were the times when the Trimatic transmissions were dropping their clutch facings into the auto sump because of cheap parts - the cost to overhaul tens of thousands of them was not cheap. They came up with a fix of a bigger auto filter instead of an overhaul to reduce warranty claims. Tighter control of warranty claims and better quality control improved the situation.
The late 70's working for the General were interesting times [/quote]
Interesting info, was there a recall to fit larger filters?
Reflecting on the number of models Holden had at the time and made here for a local market it really was financial suicide
#31
Posted 09 March 2006 - 12:46 PM
So with models like that it will be harder for the less popular (don't hate me for saying that) models to make it into the limelight.
At the end of the day each model bought with it a new milestone...but eventually they all had to come to an end....It would have been nice to go out with a bang instead of a wimper...by that I mean how good would a V8 UC have been?
It seems all the iconic models died a slow agonising death.
-The Monaro was on a downhill slide after the HG (4 doors, detuned 350, dropped 350, dropped "Monaro")
-Torana went from ass kicking A9X to 6 pot UC
-Forgive me for bringing Ford into this But The GT started in the XR, progessively got better until the XA, went down hill and then changed name and died in the XC.
But at least Holden retired the current Monaro before they ended up lining the streets as Taxis.
#32 _SSHatch_
Posted 09 March 2006 - 05:08 PM
#33
Posted 09 March 2006 - 05:11 PM
Good one SSHatch
Regards..............Barry.
#34 _hg350_
Posted 09 March 2006 - 05:51 PM
I have been trying to find that picture for months.
#35 _SSHatch_
Posted 09 March 2006 - 06:18 PM
Its been in a folder full of Torana pictures on my harddrive for about two years now!!
Edited by SSHatch, 09 March 2006 - 06:19 PM.
#36 _73LJWhiteSL_
Posted 09 March 2006 - 07:58 PM
I reckon it would be cool to own one... even with an asthmatic 4 banger
Steve
#37 _CHOPPER_
Posted 09 March 2006 - 08:01 PM
#38 _Bomber Watson_
Posted 09 March 2006 - 08:23 PM
#39
Posted 09 March 2006 - 09:01 PM
DAVELH has a picture of the LH Stationwagon in his avatar.would you have a pic of the wagon version?
Suppose if you ask him nicely he will send a real copy to you!
#40
Posted 09 March 2006 - 11:28 PM
These were the times when the Trimatic transmissions were dropping their clutch facings into the auto sump because of cheap parts - the cost to overhaul tens of thousands of them was not cheap. They came up with a fix of a bigger auto filter instead of an overhaul to reduce warranty claims. Tighter control of warranty claims and better quality control improved the situation.
The late 70's working for the General were interesting times [/QUOTE]
Interesting info, was there a recall to fit larger filters?
Reflecting on the number of models Holden had at the time and made here for a local market it really was financial suicide [/quote]
DA, I dont remember a specific recall for the autos. At the start we were giving them a complete nip and tuck, (complete overhaul, new clutch plates, particularly reverse, full seals and gaskets and new filter). As GMH got a handle on the problem they decided that by putting a modified filter on the trimatic, (standard filter with a secondary filter fitted over the top) it would solve the problem. The original filters had a very small pick up hole for the oil which was sufficient for normal operation. When the reverse clutches failed and the facings dropped into the sump they blocked the filter causing slower take up in D and R, (particularly R which now had less meat on the plates). If you have the chance to drive a late model (80's) trimatic and it is very slow going into reverse it may have issues.
That being said they were a very reliable auto for the times, much better than a BW35 (35000 kms and they died ).
This was about the time Holden had too many models competing into each others markets, Torana was about the same size as Commodore which was a little smaller than HZ. I remember us getting new HZ's and VB's side by side and measuring them, we couldnt work out how GMH was going to sell two similiar size cars in competition against each other.
#41 _devilsadvocate_
Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:33 AM
#42 _Yella SLuR_
Posted 10 March 2006 - 06:47 AM
#43
Posted 10 March 2006 - 08:02 AM
ahhhh warrenty claims. At the time, rather than workers strike, it was common practice to "sabatage" cars on the factory floor. It cost Holden millions and did nothing for their reputation. I remember the local dealership and 4 cars in particular. One they had put a coke can in the sill before welding the car together. It slid up and down in the sill every time you accelerated and braked. Another customer complained of a rattle in the dash which turned out to be a coke bottle with nuts and bolts and a note saying "haha, how bgucking long did it take you to find this". There were also 2 WB one tonners with small holes drilled in the blocks.Sorry, I'm not following here. Would anyone be able to go into a bit more detail about what he means by that? Were several models conking out soon after production or something?Holden was struggling along under crippling warranty claims in the 70's as well, something had to give...........................
#44
Posted 10 March 2006 - 08:36 AM
oh no reminds me of when i dropped a socket down the zorst of a gemini, drove me insane!One they had put a coke can in the sill before welding the car together. It slid up and down in the sill every time you accelerated and braked.
now torana sills are made from old coke cans lol
#45 _Shevster_
Posted 10 March 2006 - 09:15 AM
Hmm, that might explain a rattle in my dashahhhh warrenty claims. At the time, rather than workers strike, it was common practice to "sabatage" cars on the factory floor. It cost Holden millions and did nothing for their reputation. I remember the local dealership and 4 cars in particular. One they had put a coke can in the sill before welding the car together. It slid up and down in the sill every time you accelerated and braked. Another customer complained of a rattle in the dash which turned out to be a coke bottle with nuts and bolts and a note saying "haha, how bgucking long did it take you to find this". There were also 2 WB one tonners with small holes drilled in the blocks.
Sorry, I'm not following here. Would anyone be able to go into a bit more detail about what he means by that? Were several models conking out soon after production or something?Holden was struggling along under crippling warranty claims in the 70's as well, something had to give...........................
#46 _73LJWhiteSL_
Posted 10 March 2006 - 09:34 AM
Steve
#47
Posted 10 March 2006 - 09:59 AM
I have some spare rattles for a 73 model if you need any.My 73 LJ has no rattles... guess i wasn't one of the unlucky ones.
Steve
#48
Posted 10 March 2006 - 01:26 PM
the LJ wagons are in Korea.
Tiny has just come back from there and didn't send any home!!!!!
Considering the exchange rate, it would be fairly cheap to get some in..........might have to give Seth a call. If Sud Afrika is easy to get cars out of.....
Grant..
#49 _Yella SLuR_
Posted 10 March 2006 - 03:47 PM
Only if they are the extremely rare OM NOS rattles.I have some spare rattles for a 73 model if you need any.My 73 LJ has no rattles... guess i wasn't one of the unlucky ones.
Steve
#50
Posted 10 March 2006 - 03:49 PM
God save me... I was so glad to get home and give the monaro a good rev!!
didnt see any toranas... :(
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