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#76 hungus76

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 03:30 PM

Ok. Thanks for that.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 06:58 PM

genuine L34 has the part number scrubbed out,so in fact it does not carry a part number..

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 07:26 PM

hey guys, just answering darrens questions posted on the 15th. i had the quady 21yrs ago and put a 1974 650dp on. unfortunetly someone snuck off with it. i have just got a nos quadie 96day 74 last no 283 off a mate for $300 i put it on the monaro to test and it pissed everywhere, so i changed the plunger unstuck the needle and what a beauty, most responsive quady ive ever had. now i need the choke bracket and all will be good. my l34 has kms only, dash hasnt been touched. its build date is 22/7/74. hungas's car is 21/6/74 so it was a fairly early build, so i would think it would be at the very end of the dual speedos. unless someone liked the dual better and swapped. my l34 has holden rockers with roller centres not tips. cranes are definetly after market. hungas your l34 looks pretty sweet i recken, color looks nice but when its time, go back to white. i dont know why the big nuts 1975, probably was defective from new, when was the car sold out of the yard. either that or some one knew to be date correct on a holden over 15yrs ago. my bet would be the first one. cheers gary

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 07:35 PM

genuine L34 has the part number scrubbed out,so in fact it does not carry a part number..

unclefestal34's speaks the truth....... does yours have light die grind marks on the floor of the runners as well?

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 07:58 PM

[quote name='chrome yella' date='Feb 23 2009, 08:26 PM' post='373257']
. now i need the choke bracket and all will be good.

I got some of them made. PM me if you need one.


Cheers Louie

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:42 PM

Hi Adrian,
My name is Deane Hill. I prepaired & maintained an L34 LH Torana for racing purposes for Graeme Blanchard in 1975-1977. The car was Glacier white & when sold, the new owner painted it Tangerine. I often wander what ever happened to this car. The last time I saw it was in a used car lot at the Benalla (Vic), Nissan dealer in about 1980. From your description, I believe you have this car, even though the last post dates back to 2009. If you want to know more about the car, let me have some more details, ie it should have holes in the rear parcel shelf & floor where the Bond full cage was mounted.
Hoe to hear from you.

Thanks, Deane.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 10:39 PM

scratch paint of the boot hinges and hopefully you will see white paint under your red boot hinges. If no white paint then possibly not the original shell. Engine bay paint from new should of been black not white so scratch through the white and hopefully you will get to black again! Race teams liked white or light coloured engine bays for cleanliness! Aqua

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 03:32 PM

Hi Adrian,
My name is Deane Hill. I prepaired & maintained an L34 LH Torana for racing purposes for Graeme Blanchard in 1975-1977. The car was Glacier white & when sold, the new owner painted it Tangerine. I often wander what ever happened to this car. The last time I saw it was in a used car lot at the Benalla (Vic), Nissan dealer in about 1980. From your description, I believe you have this car, even though the last post dates back to 2009. If you want to know more about the car, let me have some more details, ie it should have holes in the rear parcel shelf & floor where the Bond full cage was mounted.
Hoe to hear from you.

Thanks, Deane.


I found a picture that could be the car in question.
its a bit small ...sorry couldn't enlarge it ...comes from old race photos web site.
Has anyone pm'd this guy he may not have seen this ..its a great read.
I'll do it just in case.

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 08:04 PM

Brian,

Your photo of Graeme Blanchards L34 is the car I prepaired for racing. This could be the car that Adrian T had in Tasmania with rego LL-3434.
Where is it now?

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:32 PM

Thank you to everyone who has contacted me recently regarding my L34, I hadn't been on the forum for some time and was unaware of the new posts and private messages that had been sent.

It's great to see so many people still interested in the story and history of my pride and joy!

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:04 PM

Hi Adrian,
Thanks for your response. I thouhgt I had lost an old freind.

As I said, the last time I saw your car was in the early 80's on the way to Bathurst in the Nissan dealers front row used car lot in Benalla.

Graeme sold the car in 1977 to Scotty Taylor of Scotty Taylor Holden in Wodonga, including all spares for $8000.Scotty's team painted it the colour it is now and ran it at Bathurst, where it finished albiet with a very leaky diff. Scotty's real name is Alan.When he sold his Holden dealership, he moved to Tasmania, and took up a Xerox franchise. I believe he is now back in the Albury/Wodonga area.

Graeme is alive and well, retired on a vine property on the Mornington Peninsula. He usually refers any one asking about his race cars to me as he had very little to do with the day to day operation of a race car. He would turn up at the appropriate time to drive the car and that was that.


I was well away from the dealership on my own in the race shop and Graeme would turn up for a chat when he wanted to get away for a while. I had freinds to give me a hand at race meetings, but other than that I did everything.

The original engine-HT13004, was not suitable as a race engine. It had bad core shift and would leak water around the cylinders when on full power.We had to rely on GMH Central Lab to supply us with hand picked parts to have a reasonably reliable race car. L34's were very weak in the gearbox and rear axle areas, and you had to have new parts every race meeting.

I still have a very good memories of those years, and there's nothing like a 308 at private practice out at Calder Raceway, the sound is fantastic.

If I can be of any help with your car, please ask.

Best wishes,
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Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:59 AM

HZ 13004 sits right with other cars built at that time

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:03 PM

If I can be of any help with your car, please ask.

Best wishes,
Daene Hill.


Fascinating stuff to hear Deane, thankyou for sharing this with me.

Would you happen to have any photo's of the car from back in the day? If so I would absolutely love to see them.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:38 PM

Adrian,

i will see what I can find. i will have slides mostly, so i will have to scan them and send them on. Bare with me.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:50 PM

Right between 2 of mine, HZ12965 and HZ13187. Fascinating stuff, finding out the history of your car.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:14 PM

Adrian, looks like your car on the bottom of page 36 of Australian V8 Action magazine (1976).
The magazine has the Gown Hindaugh L34 on the cover.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:21 PM

Adrian,

i will see what I can find. i will have slides mostly, so i will have to scan them and send them on. Bare with me.


Take all the time you need, I'm just happy to see them regardless how long it takes. Very exciting! :clappin:

Deane, do you recall what carby set up the car used to run? Twin webers possibly?

Adrian, looks like your car on the bottom of page 36 of Australian V8 Action magazine (1976).
The magazine has the Gown Hindaugh L34 on the cover.


Thanks for letting me know, I'll try and track down a copy.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:40 PM

Holley track pack carby

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:11 PM

Here is the car as raced by Graeme Blanchard

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 01:14 PM

And here she is as raced by Scotty Taylor

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 07:43 PM

Adrian, i used only the 725CFM Holley that came in the High Output kit that Graeme bought with the car from Holden. I modified it with a kit from Holley Performance to convert the vacuum secondaries to mechanical. A lot of time was spent on the dyno playing with fuel blocks & jetting, which of coarse varied from time to time depending on camshafts & exhaust configuration.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:26 PM

Deane, any idea whatever happened to the original engine block once it was determined that it wasn't suitable for racing duties?

Also, did you use the current motor in the car for racing at all? The engine number is N780019P

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 07:20 PM

Adrian, the original engine, HZ13004, was sold as a complete spare engine with all the rest of the spares to Scotty Taylor . I do not have the engine details of the main engine we had. I sold all of my L34 books with everything I had written down years ago. I can tell you that the block had the extra webbing across the cam tunnel and at the rear of the rear main bearing. It was a claim engine we managed to keep from being destroyed by the GMH warranty man. All I had to do was buy a set of L34 heads, rods & pistons & we had ourselves a very nice reliable strong engine. It only had one failure, & that was breaking a crankshaft crossing the finish line at the 1976 Sandown 250.
I have been told your car has a Brookfield sump on it. This is the sump i had built by John Brookfield. Jack Mayes made a beautifull set of header extensions for the car. No one makes pipes like Jack.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:10 PM

I have been told your car has a Brookfield sump on it. This is the sump i had built by John Brookfield. Jack Mayes made a beautifull set of header extensions for the car. No one makes pipes like Jack.

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Yes, apparently it is a Brookfield sump, I had the car serviced many years ago and my mechanic referred to the sump as " An amazing work of art! "

Thankyou for every piece of amazing information you have supplied to me so far, it has helped re-ignite my passion for the car more than I can express.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 09:58 AM

Hungus: that engine number you have:
"N780019P (I've been told by the A9X club that this is a number desiginated by NSW Police for cars that have been stolen or that have no engine number.) I don't know if that's correct or not?"

Just as yel327 confirmed; It is indeed a Police number and I've found were are issued when:
a. a car presents with nil number at all, or
b. the car/engine has been stolen and subsequently recovered, or
c. if the number in the car didn't match the recorded number in the rego records.

Your number certainly looks to be a NSW Police No - Starts with N and finishes with a P.

Effectively the stamping of a Police No. was a means of depicting that something happened with the car, has since been checked by Police and all is sweet with regards to it's provenance, meaning nothing dodgy going on.

NSW RTA have a VINS Data Integrity Officer who has access to the old paper 'RTA Issued Engine Number' reports and NSW RTA Inspection Reports. The former lists the issuance of the Police No. together with the date it was issued, the number it was issued with, the place of issuance, the vehicle make, model and year, the type of Police No. issued (engine, chassis, etc) and the owner at the time inc. their addess.

Unfortunately it doesn't record the reason for the issuance and (I am told) NSW RTA records don't go further back than early 1996 because they destroyed the same - I am not convinced of the veracity of this claim however and suspect they still ive on in some form and in some place but are too 'difficult' for staff to bebothered enquiring into. Funnily enough I asked why they would have been destroyed and the RTA bloke told me; "God know what and why they did things bck in the old days" - we are talking 1996 here - the old days...

I digress. Purportedly the reason for issuance of the Police No. is recorded on the NSW RTA Inspection Report but unfortumately I have never seen one to be sure.

NSW RTA also hold DRIVES reports - details on a vehicle's rego history but again I am told there are similar issues with records not going further back than 1996.

I have seen these reports through the course of my employ, but my understanding is that for a fee a member of the public can obtain as much but likely to have ownership details redacted for privacy reasons.

What I am suggesting is that if you can get you hands on the DRIVES or Inspection Reports you may well learn the engine number prior to the Police No. being issued whereas a copy of the 'RTA Issued Engine Number' report might also add to the evidence as to the provenance of your car.

The engine number on a 308 block is often lost when decking the same and Police Forensic folk will heat the engine number pad with an oxy (a proper one and not a little hand held jobbie) until it is glowing red and thereby the original number stamped will 'climb' out at you given the molecules of the metal remain aligned as they were when the number was first stamped. However, if the block has been decked twice or more the chances of recovering the original number become reduced.

Finally, I have heard (third hand and so no direct knowledge) that if you can provide Holden with the original engine number they will provide one of their provenance reports to confirm the same or not. However if you cannot provide the original engine number they can't/won't do this for you, and merely provide the BETSBAC report which only records the engine type in that field.

Good luck with your hunting - seems you have made significant in-roads especially of late.

Cheers, TB

Edited by Tyre biter, 01 April 2012 - 09:59 AM.





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