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Started by _outer control_ , Apr 19 2009 07:40 PM

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#151 _APL_

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 11:49 PM

Day 4 Wrap Up and Possibly The Last

....... Not In Any Particular Order.

The "force" has become very powerful.

Famous products have been named after four cylinder Toranas.

Books are for reading.

Parachutes aren't for just jumping out of planes....they are also good for stopping cars and providing shelter.

The Brabham card never got played.

Torana Car Debates are like a nuclear war - no one wins, therefore this one is a draw.
Enjoy our Toranas (4, 6, or 8 cylinders); cause we are just their caretakers.

Thanks Outer Control and the crew for the contributions - some very good info surfaced here....

APL

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#152 _The Baron_

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:00 AM

^^^^^^^^^SCARY^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That is so life like for both of you!!!

FYI, the PLUS (PUSS) 4 was a marketing ploy to get rid off all the left over bodies originally asigned to be L34s that Holden could not sell.

Whilst I hate rotaries ( I must wash out my mouth now), the next WORST sound I have ever heard is a PUSS 4 with a split system and chevy drop pipes (exit behind the back wheels like the pontiac firebird aka the bandit.) Argh!!

By the way, when are you 4 putter/splutter guys going to fit a 5 inch system/ tail pipe? Hyundia style.

Come on, you would not amass enough back pressure to blow up a condom.

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#153 _APL_

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:14 AM

Play nice Darky, or the Mega-hatch might get shown up by a TA as well as my Brabham.....

Why fit a 5 inch system/ tail pipe - Hyundia style, when the mighty HB Brabham came standard with an oversized exhaust complete with 3 Lukey Hotdogs.

See ya Sunday...

APL

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#154 _outer control_

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 05:43 AM

So it seems that the formidable "Outer Control" is a spent force....

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Here she comes......turn your radios up i think i year the fat lady and darky watch out for that other door HB 2 drs are big.

"figaro" "figaro" "figaro"
(loosely translated :- HB, HB HB)

APL

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#155 _outer control_

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 04:11 PM

^^^^^^^^^SCARY^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That is so life like for both of you!!!

FYI, the PLUS (PUSS) 4 was a marketing ploy to get rid off all the left over bodies originally asigned to be L34s that Holden could not sell.

Whilst I hate rotaries ( I must wash out my mouth now), the next WORST sound I have ever heard is a PUSS 4 with a split system and chevy drop pipes (exit behind the back wheels like the pontiac firebird aka the bandit.) Argh!!

By the way, when are you 4 putter/splutter guys going to fit a 5 inch system/ tail pipe? Hyundia style.

Come on, you would not amass enough back pressure to blow up a condom.

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Enough of your cheek Mr DARK you will not rest now that drivers door now will be a prime target.{brabham+TA 2doors}
And by the way the A9x hatches were that poor sellers like all 2 doors they could only sell 100 against 4drs 305.
All the rest left over were made into sunbudgies.And while i am here my new best sparring partner white taxi would also
support me.Imagine all that excess weight of a hatch being motivated by a 1900.No wonder you need a harrop wonder stick
and even then you nearly lost sight of the 4 plus 4 come L34.

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#156 _The Baron_

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:47 PM

The 4dr A9X is a legacy of the L34, unfortunately back in those days most buyers needed a shopping trolley or a "Mums Taxi".

Hmm, that's right I was running in my engine and your tired old L34 had a head start of about 15-20 seconds with an oily smoke screen.

Like I said, a set of 185/70/14 tyres each and Mallala would be an interesting day.

SPONSORS WANTED!!

Just think, neither of us would pull top gear except for the back straight (well sort of straight).

We could use the HB/TA as a drinks gofa.(spelling?)

Better still, an all in max laps for an hour, winner takes all.
Current / past race cars not accepted which includes HDT L34's with a 253 strocked to 350.

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#157 _outer control_

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:31 PM

The 4dr A9X is a legacy of the L34, unfortunately back in those days most buyers needed a shopping trolley or a "Mums Taxi".

Hmm, that's right I was running in my engine and your tired old L34 had a head start of about 15-20 seconds with an oily smoke screen.

Like I said, a set of 185/70/14 tyres each and Mallala would be an interesting day.

SPONSORS WANTED!!

Just think, neither of us would pull top gear except for the back straight (well sort of straight).

We could use the HB/TA as a drinks gofa.(spelling?)

Better still, an all in max laps for an hour, winner takes all.
Current / past race cars not accepted which includes HDT L34's with a 253 strocked to 350.

Wont need 4plus 4 to shut you down darky i will just put 185s on TA not much sense in using a nuclear bomb to blow up a ant hill.

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#158 _APL_

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 06:19 PM

Here we go again, noise from the V8 Gallery.... :banghead:

The trouble you will have Darky, is sourcing the "New Old Stock" air to put in those skinny tyres.

I have to stick with my nemesis "Outer Control" on this one... Four Cylinders Rule.
With that, you must feel the wraith of the Brabham Card.

Cop this !!

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And just in case you didn't quite get it, this may simplify things for you and other Non HB Believers...

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=gb7nwoQVkQE

Filmed from a HB Brabham...

APL

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#159 _The Baron_

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 10:28 PM

Just to put the knife in, I know where a genuine Brabam is quietly rusting it's way to Heaven.

RIP.

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#160 _APL_

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 11:29 PM

Just to put the knife in, I know where a genuine Brabam is quietly rusting it's way to Heaven.

RIP.

Lookin to trade up ??
"For more information, drive it"

APL

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#161 rodomo

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 11:46 PM

Are HB 4 coil? :huh:

Jack doesn't tell me in his add.

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#162 _outer control_

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 04:30 AM

Are HB 4 coil? Jack doesn't tell me in his add.

No leaf springs or unlike big brother who has 2 dissy coils the brabham has on one.

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#163 _soss_

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 09:33 AM

THIS SH@T IS JUST CRACKING ME UP :clap:

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#164 _APL_

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 10:30 AM

Don't be starting that crap again Outer Control or the alliance will be over...

I defeated you once and here is a reminder !!
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=dIVfbylUU-M

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#165 _APL_

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 11:00 AM

Better still, an all in max laps for an hour, winner takes all.

Remember the "Hare and the Tortoise"..

APL

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#166 _The Baron_

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 02:43 PM

We must find a way of getting the HTC out to Mallala.

Let the Kelso club get their fix.

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#167 _HatchmanSS76_

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 03:26 PM

We must find a way of getting the HTC out to Mallala.

Let the Kelso club get their fix.

Getting the track for a day as a club would more than likely be cost prohibative.
The best way to get out there is for a heap of members to go out together on an open practice day. You'd be out on the track with some other cars but that shouldn't matter and is quite affordable.

Something well worth considering.

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#168 _The Baron_

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 05:21 PM

I have thought about that but I think those days have a far great variance in attending vehicle speeds.

Our streeters are slow by comparison.

I would be spending most of my time looking in the mirror for the fast cars cutting under me in the braking areas.

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#169 _Arron_

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 06:55 PM

Here we go again, noise from the V8 Gallery....
The trouble you will have Darky, is sourcing the "New Old Stock" air to put in those skinny tyres.

I have to stick with my nemesis "Outer Control" on this one... Four Cylinders Rule.
With that, you must feel the wraith of the Brabham Card.

Cop this !!

And just in case you didn't quite get it, this may simplify things for you and other Non HB Believers...

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=gb7nwoQVkQE

Filmed from a HB Brabham...

APL

I had that carb setup on the HA Vauxhaul Viva i used to get arround in along with the exhaust manifold and a single 2" system , it soulded quite sporty .
I still have the exhaust manifold along with a twin SU intake manifold , not sure what happed to the Bratham carb setup .

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#170 _vbvbvb088_

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 02:34 AM

Yes - the 'ol HB.

PB (as well as Colin Bond, Gricey, George Shepherd, Bob Morris et al are the most credentialed to speak on this)

The reason this forum is grouse is that there are many divergent views...but common thread is the ooodles of information and dedication to one's favourite model.

Anyway I was thinking of a way to promote the HB and I came up with the attached.

1) A 1990 photo of my HB at Kew Boulevard overlooking the Melbourne skyline. Equates to I have owned of what I talk about.

2) A drawing I did in 1985 of one of the most legendary Holden�s of all time. Meatloaf said 2 out of 3 ain�t bad�but 3 on 3 is better.

Note date and time in bottom left hand corner. (6/7/1985 at 12 lunchtime..which was Wedgewood pasties and Pampa�s apple turnovers have long since gone.... LOL.

3) A letter I wrote in �86 to HDT complaining that the rules were against Holden as they were unduly penalised with the CAMS rules at the time. Any way PB responded with an invite and so me and three mates went down to HDT for a tour (Salmon or Bertie St I don�t remember)�and �split pin� Phil Brock showed us around and gave us lunch.

Anyway for fun I have modified the original response letter for a laugh.The original is easily visible.

So in the context of Holden history everyone would oblige thet the HB ranks highly....

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#171 _outer control_

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:55 AM

I have thought about that but I think those days have a far great variance in attending vehicle speeds.

Our streeters are slow by comparison.

I would be spending most of my time looking in the mirror for the fast cars cutting under me in the braking areas.

You may be looking at your big mirror von dark but i will take mine off for track so i can stay foccused ahead incase you dont see me in your mirror soon enough every time i overtake you in the TA or HB.Nothing worse than a big heavy car on razor blades all over the road trying to brake and accelarate.Long live the mighty little big wheels.

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#172 _outer control_

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:58 AM

Yes - the 'ol HB.

PB (as well as Colin Bond, Gricey, George Shepherd, Bob Morris et al are the most credentialed to speak on this)

The reason this forum is grouse is that there are many divergent views...but common thread is the ooodles of information and dedication to one's favourite model.

Anyway I was thinking of a way to promote the HB and I came up with the attached.

1) A 1990 photo of my HB at Kew Boulevard overlooking the Melbourne skyline. Equates to I have owned of what I talk about.

2) A drawing I did in 1985 of one of the most legendary Holden's of all time. Meatloaf said 2 out of 3 ain't bad�but 3 on 3 is better.

Note date and time in bottom left hand corner. (6/7/1985 at 12 lunchtime..which was Wedgewood pasties and Pampa's apple turnovers have long since gone.... LOL.

3) A letter I wrote in '86 to HDT complaining that the rules were against Holden as they were unduly penalised with the CAMS rules at the time. Any way PB responded with an invite and so me and three mates went down to HDT for a tour (Salmon or Bertie St I don't remember)�and 'split pin' Phil Brock showed us around and gave us lunch.

Anyway for fun I have modified the original response letter for a laugh.The original is easily visible.

So in the context of Holden history everyone would oblige thet the HB ranks highly....

Great stuff vbvbvb088 you deserve to be in the hall of fame along with all of us supporters.Keep it up m8.

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#173 _APL_

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:07 AM

vbvbvb088

That is gold !!
Consider yourself part of the HB inner sanctum.....

APL

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#174 _outer control_

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 04:31 PM

vbvbvb088

That is gold !!
Consider yourself part of the HB inner sanctum.....

APL

The inner sanctam is a splinter group evolving out of the HTC.Darky would agree as we are always getting under his skin and now his son aspires to one day join the elite group.His daughter and wife want one too,no mega hatches for them.I am outer control, Baron your losing control.

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#175 _APL_

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:05 PM

I once saw a man drown in a pool of rice custard because a nearby automatic HB couldn't pull him out of it.

Myth Busted, or was it...Test subject was actually a 4 speed manual....

Didn't have any rice custard, but improvised with a custard tart.

The HB faired quite well, with the owner appearing not to be nervous.

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