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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:02 PM

The poor horse.

Time for a call to the RSPCA?



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:10 PM

wow Balfizar you got a dog in this fight or something?



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:10 PM

That photo still shows a VK mirror, you can even see the line where it's joined

 

http://www.youtube.c...feature=mh_lolz

 

The Brock car the white decal on the windscreen, the Harvey car had black and the VH mirror



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:18 PM

hi interesting reading im not taking any sides here but there are  clear photos that balifzar has put up and definatly shows differances in the paint work if the brock hdt car has naver been painted, these photos dont lie, some thing dont add up

 

regards  aldo



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:51 PM

If you guys are bored see if all the window markings are the same, i know the PC car had had a few windows replaced thou.



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:52 PM

Great debate, it doesn't have to get personal though....... glad to see the passion, that's what these cars evoke, and that is great...... Personally I don't care.... if Brocks car was destroyed 2 laps from the end of the Great Race, and they rebuilt it with Panels and Mirrors from what ever, and stuck it in the Museum,  would it be any different......  When Brock won in Harvey's car, Which car is Brocks?? it took both cars to win....... did it matter ?........... weren't they identical cars ? ,  with different numbers ....  but as I said, gotta love the passion... 



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 11:05 PM

i think the back of this mirror is flat

I think I see curving of the outer upper and lower front edge of the mirror

I think I see a flat top edge and well defined top step

all classis VH rear vision atributes

I do not see the diagonal ridge that joins the outer upper corner to the Joint line

I also see the line/joint that you are talking about,  but it extends out to more than 1/2 the length of the mirror and is

not of the right angle, I do not see this as the joint in a VK mirror

if there was a better photo there would be no need for speculation or interpretation

VKMirrormyAss_zps10509bad.jpg

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 11:20 PM

You really started something Craig you Mexican.



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Posted 20 March 2013 - 11:58 PM

Does this add any more fuel to this fire, these were taken in the museum when i went to the Great Race in 2009.

 

DSCF2353.jpg  DSCF2361.jpg  

 

DSCF2362.jpg  DSCF2366.jpg



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 01:05 AM

You really started something Craig you Mexican.


I know mate, still like the photo in my first post though. How cool would it been to go flat out round silverstone in a HDT commodore.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:24 AM

You're flogging that dead horse quite hard.....he ain't gonna win the cup no matter how hard you do.
I'm also impressed by your selective response to comments, ignoring those you can't argue.

Goodbye.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:10 AM

I know mate, still like the photo in my first post though. How cool would it been to go flat out round silverstone in a HDT commodore.


The trick with driving a dunnydore is to make sure you turn on the NOT FOR HIRE sign on the roof or else you get those people stepping out in front of your from any taxi rank that you pass. (wanting to get home) :stirpot:



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:33 AM

you cant possible compare the colours in the paintwork from that montage Balfizar put up,

 

different light, different cameras, different white balance settings etc etc.

 

Or am I missing some other difference in them



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 03:20 PM

you cant possible compare the colours in the paintwork from that montage Balfizar put up,

 

different light, different cameras, different white balance settings etc etc.

 

Or am I missing some other difference in them

OLJ

 

The montage is supposed to show the marked (at least I can see it) difference between paint :- (guard to bonnet to flare)

taken by many different cameras, taken in many different lighting environments (indoor/outdoor) and taken with many different

camera settings, but I think consistently showing a difference.  A difference that the investigation could neither see,measure or acknowledge.

Some people know there is overspray on the front doors

Some people know there is overspray on the rear door stricker bolt

Some people know that the front guard had to be resprayed to have the "castrol" removed

and some people can see that the Marlboro across both doors had to have been redone.

 

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 04:01 PM

The fact is the car has had little touch ups while it's been in the museum. Someone broke the front spoiler for starters and I believe they use the TAFE to fix it so the quality won't be there.

The investigation was to prove that areas like the roof and the damage on the rear quarter had not been changed.

Anyway, Chassis number 6 was brocks car, straight from the holder of the log books that were kept up until a few years ago and thrown out in a house cleanup.



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 04:30 PM

In the pics that Mort put up from the Bathurst Museum iin 2009, the Museum is telling us, by the sign they have up, saying, THIS IS THE REAL 05, :driving:



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

And again, you fail to accept the very high possibility those doors in the build pic ARE NOT the doors that were on the car during Bathurst.....the doors that are still on the car today. You also need to realise that race paint IS NOT show quality or even road quality.......colours and/or finish between panels may be completely different....and cars can be sprayed assembled or panels may be sprayed separately........or any combination.........and anyone with experience in photography will explain that the pics you have put up are very deceptive in their display of colour between and across panels.......

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:31 PM

according to PC , this is the real deal...

http://www.champions...4_holden_VK.htm



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:37 PM

I reall do nto understand why this dead horse is still being flogged, even Peter Champion admitts that he has 025 Harveys car, for me the proof is in the passenger rear quarter in Bathurst 84 Harveys car took a hit in the rear quarter by Geroge Fury that saw Harvey punted off on turn one. The Bathurst museum car has no sign of any damage or repair in the rear quarter so it MUST be Brock's 05 car.

 

In my next post 101 uses for a dead horse


Edited by cruiza, 21 March 2013 - 05:38 PM.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:38 PM

1. You can eat them.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:38 PM

according to PC , this is the real deal...

http://www.champions...4_holden_VK.htm

He has changed his tune since then, that musuem is now closed sadly



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:08 PM

He has changed his tune since then, that musuem is now closed sadly

The NMRM is making money from the display of the 05 VK. If PC really believed he had the 05 car and had real proof, he could have taken them to court at the time he had his museum up and running. This never happened.

One thing that always amazes me is he spent a lot of money restoring that car and there are a lot of mistakes, the most obvious is the two flags against the drivers names and the alignment.



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:21 PM

Since we are comparing paint

 

HARVEY84.jpg

 

DSC02504.jpg

 

DSC02505pb.jpg

 

DSC02506pb.jpg



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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

Since we are comparing paint

EXACTLY Red!        I have been following this topic for years and 05 is at Bathurst!  Another thing,  I have  seen  photos of the Farrell owned 25 Harvey car,  with the black COMMODORE writing across the windscreen and its numbered 52  (25 reversed)  before it went O/S! The Bathurst 05 car is virtually unmolested! 

 

HARVEY84.jpg

 

DSC02504.jpg

 

DSC02505pb.jpg

 

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 07:28 PM

where's the little black up upside down tri-angle?






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