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#451 Shiney005

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 09:31 AM

Cheers Al.

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 10:19 AM

Last four digits 3824 could only be L253824, an 82211 (4cyl 2dr) completed on 20/09/73 and sold 10/73.



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Posted 31 October 2015 - 11:26 AM

Hi

 

Aren't we discussing L193824 Chassis Number ALJ00226A which is a 1/72 build XU1?

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 11:31 AM

Hi

 

Aren't we discussing L193824 Chassis Number ALJ00226A which is a 1/72 build XU1?

 

Cheers

 

Bazza

Ooops :blush:, my mistake reading from the back of the tag thinking it's 10/73. 

 

Thanks for the correction Bazza.

Cheers

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 12:19 PM

reported these to my contact at RMS ( sent ebay thread..his in rego/fraud department and he puts tag details on there data base and if they tags are used car will be red flagged and car wont pass for rego, he also rings other states if i find tags for sale inter state



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Posted 31 October 2015 - 12:22 PM

reported these to my contact at RMS

 

Awesome!

 

You should send him a link to this thread; it'd be good to see all the dodgy ID's black-banned from rego.

 

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 02:09 PM

Last four digits 3824 could only be L253824, an 82211 (4cyl 2dr) completed on 20/09/73 and sold 10/73.

 

It is L193824 Dave, one of the first dozen XU1's at Elizabeth.
 



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Posted 31 October 2015 - 02:56 PM

Awesome!

Double awesome. Now if only we could find one interested cop in each state so this fraud could be stopped.

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 07:47 AM

More bodgy tags for sale on ebay, when will people learn

 

http://www.ebay.com....NwAAOSwo6lWLgP6

 

http://www.ebay.com....nEAAOSw5VFWLgLD



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Posted 05 November 2015 - 08:00 AM

More bodgy tags for sale on ebay, when will people learn

 

http://www.ebay.com....NwAAOSwo6lWLgP6

 

http://www.ebay.com....nEAAOSw5VFWLgLD

Brad, you were beaten to it.

See post #443 on page 18 of this thread.

 

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 06:39 PM

More dodgy tags on ebay http://www.ebay.com....zEAAOSwv-NWUYeM  

 

Model LH8VD69

body no. 446627M

Trim 1824-19V

Paint 568-13138

Eng L31 trans M21 axle GU7

LH sedan 4 door 8-74 ALH 018334 M


Edited by turbo76lx, 24 November 2015 - 06:40 PM.


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 12:53 AM

from the above auction...

 

Attached File  LH SLR tags on ebay 01.JPG   113.89K   9 downloads

 

Attached File  LH SLR tags on ebay 02.JPG   135.01K   3 downloads

 

Attached File  LH SLR tags on ebay 03.JPG   221.66K   4 downloads

 

Attached File  LH SLR tags on ebay 04.JPG   212.17K   2 downloads

 



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Posted 28 November 2015 - 03:11 PM

M21 is a close ratio race gearbox?????



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Posted 28 November 2015 - 03:23 PM

Up to $2000 and it doesn't include the skinny VIN tag, crazy. And he want's local pickup only, would only cost a $1 to stick it in an envelop and post it, or for a few bucks more express with tracking and insurance, but at $2K I guess he can limit is audience and be picky.



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Posted 30 November 2015 - 04:11 PM

Sold $ 4050.01

 

http://www.ebay.com....=STRK:MEBIDX:IT


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 05:02 PM

Now lets find the prick who bought them and beat the crap out of him. You don't pay four grand just so you can put them up on the shed wall.

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 05:06 PM

^ The car'll pop up sooner or later in a 'price check' then we can direct the Vic Police to it.

 

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 05:07 PM

So ebay just let these auctions run despite being notified ? I guess the commission is worth more than their integrity..,

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 05:56 PM

Someone has to get a VIN tag made too.



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Posted 16 January 2016 - 05:59 PM

Hi All,

          I understand why, when spending big money on supposedly rare , matching number muscle cars, it is important that they are all genuine matching numbers. No arguments from me....

And to me a Torana is a Torana...... no matter what engine , gearbox or diff it runs, or what mods you make to  it.... still a Torana....

but my question is ..... How much of the original body must be used to call it genuine...? how many patches can i weld in before its not original...? ..... what is the difference between cutting 95 % of the car away as rust and welding tons of patches in and cutting 5 % of the body off ... with the plates attached and welding them into another body..... where do we draw the line....?

Or if the front of an L34 is written off and the chasis rails and body numbers are replaced and is it still a genuine L34 or not ...?

I dont want to cause any arguments here or annoy the purists, but these questions have always bugged me. Can anyone enlighten me ...?

Al



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Posted 16 January 2016 - 06:33 PM

Depends on who you ask and what they have in the shed at the time.

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Posted 17 January 2016 - 09:30 AM

This could make an interesting thread on its own. This subject creates huge arguments within the historic race car community.


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Posted 17 January 2016 - 01:44 PM

Hi All,

          I understand why, when spending big money on supposedly rare , matching number muscle cars, it is important that they are all genuine matching numbers. No arguments from me....

And to me a Torana is a Torana...... no matter what engine , gearbox or diff it runs, or what mods you make to  it.... still a Torana....

but my question is ..... How much of the original body must be used to call it genuine...? how many patches can i weld in before its not original...? ..... what is the difference between cutting 95 % of the car away as rust and welding tons of patches in and cutting 5 % of the body off ... with the plates attached and welding them into another body..... where do we draw the line....?

Or if the front of an L34 is written off and the chasis rails and body numbers are replaced and is it still a genuine L34 or not ...?

I dont want to cause any arguments here or annoy the purists, but these questions have always bugged me. Can anyone enlighten me ...?

Al

 

Trouble is due to crooks and dodgy pr!cks trying to defraud people, common sense no longer applies.

 

The letter of the law is now you are not allowed to remove and replace tags.

 

Where the common sense part doesn't apply is to repair some of these cars you have to remove the tags. Hell on some of them (eg VB-VH) you have to remove the actual panel the tags and chassis number are attached to! At the other end of the spectrum you can rebuild a HK-HG from a bare firewall and cowl where the tags and chassis number are, replace every part of the structure bar the firewall and cowl and the car remains as it was originally. Neither of these scenarios have common sense applied.



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Posted 17 January 2016 - 07:48 PM

Thanx yel327,

                       You are certainly right there ... common sense is not that common anymore...but does this mean if i own an L34 or A9X i can not remove a plate to keep it in the safe, or is this still permitted ...?



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Posted 17 January 2016 - 08:01 PM

To the letter of the law no.




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