Hi all,
I just wanted to know what your opinions are on the stainless steel and copper radiator hose kits available.......I was told that running the stainless steel hoses are a cheap version as oppose to running the copper ones.......Whats the difference....... e.g i have some FLEXIKOOL hoses however i have been told that COOL FLEX are a much better hose...
In addition i heard that these hoses exert more pressure on the radiator outlets.....is this truth or a myth.....
Overall what are your opinions on running these hoses oppose to the normal rubber ones.
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, Jul 01 2009 11:44 AM
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 12:10 PM
Basically from my understanding a staino hose with silicone joins is purely for bling bling.
And dont they look good!!!
But i would think that it would DEFINITELY put a lot more strain on the outlets, as the flexibility of the hose is greatly reduced, and as the engine rocks it will put a whole lot more strain on the system.
But damb they look good.
Wouldent recommend for a street/competition car, but a full on show pony that never gets started would be fine.
If you want the ultimate in bling bling without the compromise, and have mega deep pockets with arms long enough to reach all the way to the bottom, the only way i would suggest is like this chevy pickup i saw at a local car show.
What you can see in the pick is four braided hoses coming from the front and back of the inlet manifold on both sides going to JIC fittings tig welded to the custom alloy radiator, what you cant see is the bloody huge braided hose going from the JIC on the other side of the radiator to the water pump.
Shoulda got more picks of that set up, it was wiked!!
And dong go getting ideas of that braided look alike sleeve stuff you put over your hoses, i despise that stuff for two very good reasons. Firstly its abrasive and rubs against your rubber hoses continuously, and secondly if there is any damage to the hoses you cant see it!!
Cheers.
And dont they look good!!!
But i would think that it would DEFINITELY put a lot more strain on the outlets, as the flexibility of the hose is greatly reduced, and as the engine rocks it will put a whole lot more strain on the system.
But damb they look good.
Wouldent recommend for a street/competition car, but a full on show pony that never gets started would be fine.
If you want the ultimate in bling bling without the compromise, and have mega deep pockets with arms long enough to reach all the way to the bottom, the only way i would suggest is like this chevy pickup i saw at a local car show.
What you can see in the pick is four braided hoses coming from the front and back of the inlet manifold on both sides going to JIC fittings tig welded to the custom alloy radiator, what you cant see is the bloody huge braided hose going from the JIC on the other side of the radiator to the water pump.
Shoulda got more picks of that set up, it was wiked!!
And dong go getting ideas of that braided look alike sleeve stuff you put over your hoses, i despise that stuff for two very good reasons. Firstly its abrasive and rubs against your rubber hoses continuously, and secondly if there is any damage to the hoses you cant see it!!
Cheers.
Edited by Bomber Watson, 01 July 2009 - 12:22 PM.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 12:35 PM
ahh ok..........well the main reason why i opted to go with these hoses is because i need something that will flex around things and keep its shape.... i mean i know of one person who has one and he hasnt had a problem with his yet.......
Although i am still a little confused as to what the quality difference is between a copper Vs stainless hose......
Geez watson you wont like me then .....i have a whole heap of braided line just sitting there waiting to go in.....
Although i am still a little confused as to what the quality difference is between a copper Vs stainless hose......
Geez watson you wont like me then .....i have a whole heap of braided line just sitting there waiting to go in.....
Edited by jim__10, 01 July 2009 - 12:35 PM.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 12:37 PM
Perhaps copper transfers heat better than stainless???
Which considering there in your engine bay after the radiator i would think any cooling from the hoses would be negligible.
If your convinced there is no risk of extra stress because your mate has them then why did you bother asking?
Which considering there in your engine bay after the radiator i would think any cooling from the hoses would be negligible.
If your convinced there is no risk of extra stress because your mate has them then why did you bother asking?
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 12:48 PM
Well firstly i just said that my mate has had no problems with it.....Now in saying that i also read that alloy hoses put extra stress on the radiator.....Now the reason i was asking the question is that i was just curious as if this statement of what i read was in actual fact true....Now going by your views from what you said that the hose doesn't allow flex as a rubber hose does makes sense that in fact it prob would put more stress on a radiator outlet....Although it is just a matter of whether or not this stress is enough to cause any damage......
i am just trying to explore differing views on the matter that all.......
i am just trying to explore differing views on the matter that all.......
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 12:59 PM
I assume copper would be chrome plated and stainless would just be plain or polished.Although i am still a little confused as to what the quality difference is between a copper Vs stainless hose......
They have their place, usually used to replace standard top and bottom hoses.
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 06:29 PM
I've had a couple mates replace their hoses/make custom jobs with stainless pipe and silicone joiner hoses with no problems.
Unless you're running a massive HP engine with super soft engine mounts, I can't see it causing a problem.
Worst case scenario, and you do bust a radiator fitting, fix it, cut the pipe in the middle somewhere and put a second silicon joiner in.
OK, another join to worry about, but it still looks the business and should fix the stress issue (if it ever crops up in the first place).
Unless you're running a massive HP engine with super soft engine mounts, I can't see it causing a problem.
Worst case scenario, and you do bust a radiator fitting, fix it, cut the pipe in the middle somewhere and put a second silicon joiner in.
OK, another join to worry about, but it still looks the business and should fix the stress issue (if it ever crops up in the first place).
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 06:35 PM
If it's poorly set up in the first place (slight misalignment etc), then it makes sense that the radiator fitting could be under stress even when the motor is not running.
Could we see some more photos? I don't know that I've ever seen this in practise, I'm imagining it's similar in looks to modern forced-induction plumbing?
Could we see some more photos? I don't know that I've ever seen this in practise, I'm imagining it's similar in looks to modern forced-induction plumbing?
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Posted 01 July 2009 - 07:02 PM
Rogee!I'm imagining it's similar in looks to modern forced-induction plumbing?
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