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UC rack in LX.PROB!!

Started by _rorym_ , Jul 06 2009 08:55 PM

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#1 _rorym_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 08:55 PM

I just fitted the HX stubs and discs...I also wound the tie rod ends in to their max...problem is the wheels still point outwards..?? Appears there is no more thread..do I knock a bit off the end of one tie rod to get the tie rod in futher?..Never seen this one before..in hindsight that means I lose the nut head on the rod...Anyone???
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Edited by rorym, 06 July 2009 - 08:59 PM.

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#2 dattoman

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:00 PM

using Torry or HX steering arms ?

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#3 _rorym_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:00 PM

UC rack
UC arms
HX stubs.
N0.1 wasn't like this. Bolted straight in.
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Edited by rorym, 06 July 2009 - 09:00 PM.

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#4 _rorym_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:01 PM

Rack and arms same numbers as N0.1
Rack 0277
Arms 7248/9.
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Edited by rorym, 06 July 2009 - 09:03 PM.

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#5 _evil UC hatch_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:03 PM

got a pic? sounds odd

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#6 _rorym_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:05 PM

Picture rack with tie rods wound right in..no thread left...wheels point out like a Thia hookers knees..Datto will know what I mean....
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#7 _rorym_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:09 PM

Wonder if there are different length tie rods?....If they were shorter the problem would go away?..Don't know..it's what NOS fitted to it.
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#8 Racehatch

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:14 PM

Maybe try measuring the tie rod end length on NO1 and compare with those on number 2?

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#9 _rorym_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:16 PM

Yeah just looked at that..cant get a good look..will try again in the morning..weird Huh?
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#10 76lxhatch

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:17 PM

That does sound odd, perhaps the rack has been recond with new tie rods at some stage that are longer?

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#11 _rorym_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:19 PM

Then the UC I took it out off would have thrown up a problem surely?
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#12 _rorym_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:21 PM

I will measure both in the morning..bloody strange though...
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#13 _evil UC hatch_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:22 PM

mabey your just looking at it crosseyed? get ya hand outta ya pants and look again :tease:

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#14 _rorym_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:27 PM

What you talking about Willis???
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You have to be old to remember that one....

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#15 _methanoltorana_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:51 PM

I just fitted the HX stubs and discs...I also wound the tie rod ends in to their max...problem is the wheels still point outwards..?? Appears there is no more thread..do I knock a bit off the end of one tie rod to get the tie rod in futher?..Never seen this one before..in hindsight that means I lose the nut head on the rod...Anyone???
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hi, did you use the torana tie rod conecting arms or the hx ones.

we used torana ones on our race cars which had no modification needed.

worked fine with one rack and we had to cut the rack ends down a bit on another we will use as a spare.

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#16 _evil UC hatch_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:58 PM

What you talking about Willis???
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You have to be old to remember that one....

I used to watch different strokes as a kid, might have been re-runs in the late 80's earl 90's though??

as far as I know thats pretty much Gary Colemans career highlight

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#17 _rorym_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:04 PM

hi, did you use the torana tie rod conecting arms or the hx ones.

we used torana ones on our race cars which had no modification needed.

worked fine with one rack and we had to cut the rack ends down a bit on another we will use as a spare.

Meth..no idea...the car came with new tie rods..will need to check tomorrow what length they are..guessing they are the wrong ones..Torana ones on N0.1 fitted fine..if I cut the rack ends..I am in the same boat...not enough thread to wind them on further..thought of that.
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#18 _methanoltorana_

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:56 PM

Meth..no idea...the car came with new tie rods..will need to check tomorrow what length they are..guessing they are the wrong ones..Torana ones on N0.1 fitted fine..if I cut the rack ends..I am in the same boat...not enough thread to wind them on further..thought of that.
iR

we had to add thread on rack ends to get it right, pain in ass but got there in end.

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#19 dattoman

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 11:01 PM

Not sure what tierod you would use then
Since HX and Torana are the same item

What ya done wrong ?

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#20 _rorym_

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 03:36 PM

Well I wound the lock nuts in as far as they would go..knocked 10mm off both ends of the arms on the rack and re fitted the tie rods. I reckon I have 2mm toe in at best.. The arms look new so I am guessing the rack has been recoed recently...still weird but think I have enough now to get my 2mm toe out settings....just.
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#21 _rorym_

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 03:37 PM

we had to add thread on rack ends to get it right, pain in ass but got there in end.

Ahhh! So it isnt only me!..That's good to know..
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#22 fuzzypumper

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 10:28 PM

The question is still why? Has this rack been reconditioned using rods from something else?

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#23 _rorym_

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 11:39 PM

Possibly...or there is only one size in the reco arms available and they expect the workshops to cut them down to fit.
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#24 _darrenmark1_

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 04:54 PM

Now reading this I'm a bit worried now, i just bought two of these last night for my sons car and i hope they fit

Steering Rack ends

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#25 fuzzypumper

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 05:36 PM

Now reading this I'm a bit worried now, i just bought two of these last night for my sons car and i hope they fit

Steering Rack ends

Just looked at those and I immediately thought they look way too long and the groove for the boot is way too close to the ball which means
if you full locked the steering I'm sure you would turn the boot in on itself.
They musnt be exact replicas but may still do the job with a few mods & considerations.

I went out measured my old LX rack and the distance from the ball to the boot groove is about 75mm but more importantly
the distance from the ball to the begining of the thread is about 210mm. I couldnt measure it to the end as I still had a tie rod on.

Edited by fuzzypumper, 08 July 2009 - 05:38 PM.