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[A9X]

Not sure how much red bull your slurping there Josh, but ya might wanna ease off a bit.

Lets take this slowly.

You mentioned handling as first thing on your list but you ask questions about front and back brakes??

Personally, i think you might want to break things into groups.

Springs and shocks
sway bars
Brake package
there are even mounting rubber changes that will make a difference.

Go from there.

Have an overall look at what is most important and in what order and at what price.

Happy to offer some thoughts, if you want to get specific.

Welby

[rodomo]

i want something that'll handle well and brake well lol

Buy a skate board

[dattoman]

Give me alot of money and 4 weeks with your front suspension
You will have everything you need for stop and turn

Have you had your diff made yet ?
If not... get it made to suit the brakes you want to run
Or if buying the Hoppers rear kit... 280 or 300 mm then buy that first and have them mount the brackets

What size wheels do you think your going to run
And whats your driving intentions
That will determine if your after big brakes , hard or soft bushes. and what size bars

So what do you want to actually achieve with this car ?

[76lxhatch]

I agree with everyone here who has said to slow down and think carefully about what you want to achieve and spend. If you get everything at cheap prices and do all the work yourself I would be extremely surprised if you got change from $5K, more like $6K+ for front and back ends. If you can't get cheap prices or do the work yourself then the sky's the limit...

[ls2lxhatch]

The Eaton Detroit Truetrac is not a locking diff, it is a mechanical LSD. It will not deliver equal power to both wheels. The torque applied to the wheel with traction is 2.5-3.5 times the torque applied to the wheel that is slipping. If one wheel is off the ground then no torque is applied to the wheel with traction. It is a good diff for street and circuit but not the best choice for the strip.

The Eaton Detroit Locker is a locking diff, it will deliver equal power to both wheels. When it is locked it is the same as a spool.

The Lokka is an locking device similar in operation to a Detroit Locker that replaces the side/spider gears in a standard diff.

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 20 August 2009 - 11:06 AM.

[TerrA LX]

i mean im only young and dumb when it comes to this sorta stuff i thought i should get advice now so i dont forget about it later

thanks guys

cheers josh

Don't worry mate we all had to start somewhere, sometimes it is easy for some people to dismiss a genuine question with a response like "what are you talking about" as like myself I have been fortunate enough to have been in the motor trade from the day I left school, working for an engine builder and have since moved on to many different areas.
I have found that the only dumb question is the one not asked so don't be be afraid to ask because you "don't have an idea of what's going on".

IMO draw up a plan and stick to it, set budgets and time frames and stick to them.

Any Torana (aside A9X) needs a brake upgrade so budget for it then make an informed decision about it, as with the other areas.
Cheers T.

[dattoman]

Hoppers 300mm front kit
280mm rear kit
Get the rear brakes before you get the diff done and have them setup to suit

Front bushes all urethane except upper control arms
Do them in rubber

WTF is a solid rear end ?
Nathan can get you all this stuff... why haven't you asked him ?

Spring brand won't matter to you much... lovells, kings etc
Big swaybars... no point going adjustable if you have no idea how to set them up
Decent shocks.. again.. no point with adjust if your never going to tune the susp

[dattoman]

I mean Nathan works for a suspension shop
He can get all the parts you need

[dattoman]

Nolathane is fine
I preferred Noltec though
But unfortunatly Nolathane bought out Noltec to the old blue bushes I liked are gone

The uppers are usually done in rubber to give alittle more compliance and soften the ride
Some people claim its abit harsh with these in

Each to their own


I have access to just about all the rubbers in rubber and urethane... not that I need any yet
So will make my decision closer to the day when I do

And yes Josh... 2wild works in the suspension industry

[rodomo]

With the rear upper arm bushes I reckon it depends on the application.
I have nolathane rear bushes in the Bombodore and am happy with it on the circuit.
But, when I took it to the drags at Heathcote, it felt like it had a jackhammer going off in the boot when doing a burnout.

[76lxhatch]

I don't think that Nolathane offers the varying levels of hardness in their bushes, Superpro does

[ls2lxhatch]

The SuperPro steel outer shells are machined whereas the others are pressed steel. The machining should result in a more accurate outer diameter and therefore a consistent fit in suspension components.