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torana stud pattern

Started by _Drakey_ , Nov 08 2005 03:35 PM

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#1 _Drakey_

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Posted 08 November 2005 - 03:35 PM

just curious what the torana stud pattern really is?

and what the correct offset is for it?

and also does any of the modern cars have the same as the torana stud pattern?

thanks in advance

Drakey

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#2 gtrboyy

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Posted 08 November 2005 - 05:52 PM

I saw porsche rims on an lj once,it looked really nice.

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#3 _high_rpm_

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Posted 08 November 2005 - 10:18 PM

there was a sticky on the old forum with all the stud patterns and what would fit ect. but i dono who it was by <_<

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#4 _svenikus_

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Posted 08 November 2005 - 10:39 PM

You can put volvo rims on to torries (there may be two kinds of volvo stud patterns I believe)..

Speak to lc boi, he has volvo rims on his lj

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#5 _ToranaGuy_

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Posted 09 November 2005 - 10:44 PM

The volvo rims in question are 15" steelies iirc, and don't look too bad. A cheap way to get 15" under a torry.

I believe the unofficial name for the torana stud pattern is called " early holden ", as the EJ-H, HK-G, and torana's share the same bolt pattern, but i'm not sure about the offset.

I can say this with certinty, as i have steel EH 13" rims, steel 13" LH rims, repro steel HK 14x6" rims and some alloy 14x7" that come from a HG and were on my torana. I've had no issues with rim & tyre clearance with the steelies, only had tyre issues with the 14's on the front, if it was wearing bigger than a 195/65 i would get rubbing on the front edge of the arch. Lowering probably wasn't helping that either. Never had issues with rim hitting any suspension parts. If offset is differant, it can't be by much.

I have heard their is a 5stud astra rim that fits the torana pattern, no idea if it does tho. Anyone know anything about this?

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#6 GML-31

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 06:40 AM

I was waiting for chopper to jump on this one... it is 5 x 108

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#7 gtrboyy

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 01:12 PM

Chopper has been very quiet,maybe he'd tell you to get some CHEAP Ferrari wheels & get some dodgy spacers to get the offsets correct.Where are you Chop?

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#8 _Herne_

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 01:58 PM

Chopper Chopper wherefor art thou Chopper?

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#9 _draglc_

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Posted 10 November 2005 - 02:34 PM

i think also audi wheels have the same offset as early holden.

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Posted 12 November 2005 - 01:20 PM

I heard chopper is busy spakfilling some holes in the walls and painting out our old website, so we can get the bond back

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:18 PM

the astra rims are .05mm out for the PCD. Not enough to worry about. Offset is different to torrie but I cant give you any more info than that

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#12 _wabbit_

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Posted 14 November 2005 - 11:28 PM

volvo rims are out by the same 0.05 mm, but they're fine

i have 14X6 volvo rims from a 1984 240gl on my LH and the offset is fine.
track is slightly smaller with these rims, but still legal

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#13 _devilsadvocate_

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 09:12 PM

Torrie pcd = 4.25in , or to be more useful.......
dist b/w adjacent stud centres= 63.5mm.

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#14 GML-31

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 06:59 AM

gee devil someone that talks my language ... imperial, i still seem to weigh myself etc in stone..... maybe it sounds less

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#15 Dr Terry

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 08:31 PM

Hi Guys.

The official GM-H figure for Torana PCD (except HB/LC/LJ/TA 4 cyl) is 4.24 ", not 4.25".

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#16 _devilsadvocate_

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 08:48 PM

Have to take what Dr Terry says as Gospel, torana pcd = 4.24in.
That makes the distance between centre of adjacent studs = 63.30mm.

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#17 _CHOPPER_

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 08:15 PM

Chopper Chopper wherefor art thou Chopper?

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Some prick stole my user-name and I've only gotten it back properly today.

Dr Terry said that official GMH figures said the Torana pattern is 5x4.24". All aftermarket wheel manufacturers state the stud pattern as 5x4.25". They will also tell you they got that figure from GMH. Ask any tyre shop and they would also tell you it's 5x4.25".

Dr Terry and myself agreed a while ago that there are two sets of figures going around. I accept he uses the figure he stated and I understand his reasoning. I stand by the figure of 5x4.25", but accept it may not be correct.

We both also agree that obviously somewhere along the line an error was made and we may never find out the real truth behind it. And after 45 years, it really doesn't matter anyway. Torana wheels will still fit Toranas, no matter what the actual stud pattern is.

I will not be entering into any debate about this, as it was done a few times on the phpBB. No point flogging this dead horse again, it still won't move.

Anyway, common wheels that fit Toranas are HK, HT, HG and Volvo. 144 and 244 series are the cheapest. If you want 15"+ alloys, look for 760 series. 17" are easily found. Just avoid the 4 stud Volvo rims and the front wheel drive Volvo rims will probably foul on the top control arm.

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Posted 19 November 2005 - 11:10 AM

Hey chop do you think that the 17's off a Volvo 97 850R will fit on a Lh 4 door, would the offset on these be better or worse than commodore offset??

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#19 _CHOPPER_

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Posted 19 November 2005 - 07:08 PM

A 97 Ovlov would almost certainly be FWD. Most FWD offsets are around +45. If they were 7" wide and no more than +35 they would probably fit. No guarentees of course. It's always best to do a fitment test if possible before expensive purchases.

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#20 _jae318_

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 11:11 PM

what about the 4cly torrys
I am sick of ringing the neck out of the LJ on the little 12' tryes
I would like to go fully sick on mind blowing 13' :rockon:

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#21 rodomo

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 12:33 AM

These are 15" volvo on the back of my LJ but the fronts foul on the upper wish bone. Will need spacers to fit.
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#22 _CHOPPER_

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Posted 03 February 2006 - 05:22 PM

what about the 4cly torrys
I am sick of ringing the neck out of the LJ on the little 12' tryes
I would like to go fully sick on mind blowing 13'

If they are 5 stud, they are 5/4.25".
If they are 4 stud, they are 4/4.00".

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#23 _HAZZE LJ_

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Posted 04 February 2006 - 09:33 AM

ive got 17 inch BBS wheels off a volvo C70 they fit on the front ok but needed longer wheel studs and spacers on the back , make sure you have stiff suspension if you want big wheel as they scrub out all round