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I need to clean up a few chrome bits on Wesleys LX that are looking a tad oxidised (tail light trim, window trim etc). I have used Calcustom Purple Polish and on the chrome that is in good nick and it has come up really well. Just wondering if anyone has had good results with the Aluminium Deoxidizer from the same company?
Cheers,
T
Aluminium Deoxidizer - CalCustom
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 11:06 PM
Forgot to add a link to what I am talking about. Here is it California Custom Aluminium Deoxidiser
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 07:00 AM
Never used it myself but it might be worth trying buffing/polishing them as they are stainless and should not oxidise as such.
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 07:53 AM
well the discription on the site sold me, I just ordered a bottle 
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 12:39 PM
I have never used that particular product before, but i have used many different aluminium deoxidizers.
General findings is that THEY ARE f*ckING USELESS!!!!
They strip the alloy back, leave it looking a horrid white type colour, then it reoxidizes over the top in about three days.
BUT the blurb on that website sounds good, and calcustom are very good, so i might get a bottle and try it myself.
Cheers.
General findings is that THEY ARE f*ckING USELESS!!!!
They strip the alloy back, leave it looking a horrid white type colour, then it reoxidizes over the top in about three days.
BUT the blurb on that website sounds good, and calcustom are very good, so i might get a bottle and try it myself.
Cheers.
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 01:28 PM
I ordered a bottle today and it will posted out this arvo. I will let you all know how it goes. The testimonials sounded promising so I thought "why not". Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
The Purple Polish is great stuff so I'm hoping the deoxidiser is up to the same standard.
The Purple Polish is great stuff so I'm hoping the deoxidiser is up to the same standard.
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 07:55 PM
General findings is that THEY ARE f*ckING USELESS!!!!
I can confirm Bombers findings, i still have a almost full bottle at work Mr-T, it looks,smells and works (or dosen't) just like watered down Alloy Acid (mag wheel cleaner) ,it didn't help on ANY of the things i tested it on, (some it made harder to polish)
The Purple polish is great and will impress for sure, but im afraid the de-ox should not be sold on the same shelf as such a great product.
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:07 PM
^ Bugger. Wish I had have waited another day or two before ordering a bottle Steve. Ah well, not to worry. Thats the price I pay for impatient I suppose (one of those lessons I will never bloody well learn) 
Thanks anyway mate. I will post up pics of my results regardless of whether it works for me or not.
Cheers,
T
Thanks anyway mate. I will post up pics of my results regardless of whether it works for me or not.
Cheers,
T
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:50 PM
I totally concur with Bomber.
Don't use it....Leaves a horrible finish and doesn't help one bit. In fact it makes things worse from my experience.
Jeremy shuddered when I showed him the bottle of green acid. lol
Cheers
Herne
Don't use it....Leaves a horrible finish and doesn't help one bit. In fact it makes things worse from my experience.
Jeremy shuddered when I showed him the bottle of green acid. lol
Cheers
Herne
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 06:21 AM
The reason you are left with that white finish is the polish you are using removes the protective coating on the aluminium, the purple brand is less harsh.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 08:17 AM
The reason you are left with that white finish is the polish you are using removes the protective coating on the aluminium, the purple brand is less harsh.
What coating is this ? never seen anything used to coat alloy other than a clear coating of paint, and if it was coated in paint then alloy polish (including purple) is the wrong polish to be using in the first place,
The de-ox needs to contact the surface of the alloy ,it chemically reacts with the alloy itself and will give it a white haze, any coating or layer of paint (non metallic) will create a barrier between the acid and the alloy and then it will not go white.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 11:33 AM
Aluminium you have on components are not pure aluminium, they are an alloy, usually coated in a protective layer which is sometimes pure aluminium, it's only a very thin layer. When you clean it with something too abrasive, it removes that layer and the alloy is exposed.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:12 PM
But the de-ox alloy acid has a similar effect on both Alloy AND Aluminium (sending them both white) , so even if this protecting layer of Aluminium is intact, it will still go white regardless of what polish you prevoiusly used.
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:18 PM
What about on Chrome?
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 05:47 PM
But the de-ox alloy acid has a similar effect on both Alloy AND Aluminium (sending them both white) , so even if this protecting layer of Aluminium is intact, it will still go white regardless of what polish you prevoiusly used.
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It is obviously causing surface corrosion, but tell me, exactly what is it thats pure aluminium that you are using it on? Pure aluminium is very soft, and basically useless, thats why it's made as an alloy with other metals, aluminiums best quality in pure form is it's resistance to corrosion, thats why it's usually only used as a protective coating on aluminium alloy.
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 05:47 AM
i have searched the net etc for a while, and bringing alloy parts back to "as new" is not easy it apears
i was doing my dissy housing last week and tried a recipy i found on a harley site.
Basicly boiled in a weak soultion of water and vinigar for a white.
Then used some cheap chinese pot cleaning pads (not the metal type) and a stiff tooth brush, Chinese because they are crap and not very aggressive, and usless to clean your pots
took a while, and removed staining back to a nice finish. its not perfect but its pretty good.
i didnt want a beadblast or polished or over restored look.
i was doing my dissy housing last week and tried a recipy i found on a harley site.
Basicly boiled in a weak soultion of water and vinigar for a white.
Then used some cheap chinese pot cleaning pads (not the metal type) and a stiff tooth brush, Chinese because they are crap and not very aggressive, and usless to clean your pots
took a while, and removed staining back to a nice finish. its not perfect but its pretty good.
i didnt want a beadblast or polished or over restored look.
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 10:33 AM
It is obviously causing surface corrosion, but tell me, exactly what is it thats pure aluminium that you are using it on? Pure aluminium is very soft, and basically useless, thats why it's made as an alloy with other metals, aluminiums best quality in pure form is it's resistance to corrosion, thats why it's usually only used as a protective coating on aluminium alloy.
When using alloy acid on anything on any car ive come across, everything ive suspected of containing a decent quantity of Aluminium, has gone white evey time (unless clearcoated) some Alloy components will then tarnish to a dark almost black colour once rinsed and allowed to dry (common with some engine blocks) i actually don't know of anything on a car that has a "pure" Aluminium coating over Alloy (not that that means it does not exist), but if everything Alloy/Aluminium looking ive hit with acid goes white, how would i know the difference ?
If you can tell me a few examples of what components on a everyday vehicle (a easy car to find) that you know definatly have a pure Aluminium coating over Alloy, i will find one (if we don't have one at work) and test to confirm your theory that the Aluminium coating will prevent the Alloy turning white when hit with some alloy acid.
What about on Chrome?
Not really what id use to clean chrome, but ive never had any issue with acid on decent chrome,(steel bumper bars etc) be carefull on chromed plastic (grilles etc),alloy acid will tarnish some blends of copper rather bad,a lot of chromed plastic is copper coated first, so any stone chip or imperfection in the chrome may allow acid access to the copper underneath, leading to poor bonding resulting in bubbles or peeling (especially if you hit it with high pressure water)
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 01:04 PM
It is obviously causing surface corrosion, but tell me, exactly what is it thats pure aluminium that you are using it on? Pure aluminium is very soft, and basically useless, thats why it's made as an alloy with other metals, aluminiums best quality in pure form is it's resistance to corrosion, thats why it's usually only used as a protective coating on aluminium alloy.
When using alloy acid on anything on any car ive come across, everything ive suspected of containing a decent quantity of Aluminium, has gone white evey time (unless clearcoated) some Alloy components will then tarnish to a dark almost black colour once rinsed and allowed to dry (common with some engine blocks) i actually don't know of anything on a car that has a "pure" Aluminium coating over Alloy (not that that means it does not exist), but if everything Alloy/Aluminium looking ive hit with acid goes white, how would i know the difference ?
If you can tell me a few examples of what components on a everyday vehicle (a easy car to find) that you know definatly have a pure Aluminium coating over Alloy, i will find one (if we don't have one at work) and test to confirm your theory that the Aluminium coating will prevent the Alloy turning white when hit with some alloy acid.
I don't think I said the coating would prevent it, if this stuff you mention is an acid based cleaner, then there is your answer it's simple, it's eating into the aluminium, be it pure or not, aluminium goes to a white powder when it corrodes.What about on Chrome?
Not really what id use to clean chrome, but ive never had any issue with acid on decent chrome,(steel bumper bars etc) be carefull on chromed plastic (grilles etc),alloy acid will tarnish some blends of copper rather bad,a lot of chromed plastic is copper coated first, so any stone chip or imperfection in the chrome may allow acid access to the copper underneath, leading to poor bonding resulting in bubbles or peeling (especially if you hit it with high pressure water)
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 12:17 PM
I tried the De-ox on some chrome (or stainless, aluminium...whatever the material is) window trim and on the tail light surround (LX). Waste of $20....... I did as the instructions said, wipe on liberally and follow up with Purple Polish. I repeated the process several times to no avail.
It might work on some stuff, but it sure as hell didnt work on what I wanted it to.
Back to drawing board.......
It might work on some stuff, but it sure as hell didnt work on what I wanted it to.
Back to drawing board.......
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 08:45 PM
Well I did tell you it was meant for alloy and you used it on stainless steel lol.
They will have to be buffed and polished, by machine, hand jobs won't cut it.
They will have to be buffed and polished, by machine, hand jobs won't cut it.
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:35 AM
...hand jobs won't cut it.
They never do!
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