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Fixing my brothers UC hatch

Started by _dirtbag_ , Dec 30 2009 01:19 PM

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#1226 _cruiza_

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 01:59 PM

The axistr power steering rack is designed as a replacement for the factory rack. It uses the factory steering arms.

would that be in a LH / LX or UC as they are different, I have read the thread and I think from memory, and I stress I am not sure about this he tryed all three and found the UC arms suited his car with whatever stub axles he had

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#1227 ls2lxhatch

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 03:01 PM

It was ToranaMatt69 that found UC arms were the best with his setup using a different rack ( Subaru WRX ) and possibly a different mounting position early in the power steering thread.

It is my understanding that all the factory racks have the same dimensions. The dimensions of the axistr power rack are similar to the factory rack. Therefore fitting the axistr power rack will not significantly change the bump steer that exists with the factory rack. The axistr power rack installation instructions do not specify changing the factory steering arms. Although the factory steering arms do require reaming to suit the Subaru tie rod ends.

In other words you use the same steering arms with the power rack as you would with the factory rack and your particular suspension setup. Typically LX suspension LX arms, UC suspension UC arms, A9X suspension A9X arms.

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#1228 _Yella SLuR_

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 05:56 PM

Mmmm, what an interesting shade of mauve.

Bandwidth exceeded???? Time to get rid of the porn Dirtbag!!!

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#1229 _cruiza_

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 06:05 PM

I have been to Dirtbags shed and had a look at the setup and we had a chat about it a few weeks back, it was Tim who pointed out to me the Power steer rack had better location and geometry then the standard rack. He is a very cluey bloke and his hotrod building background means he knows what he is talking about with pivot points ackerman etc

and my comments are that given the car had been messed around with by previous owner we don't know what the actual setup is, stub axles steering arms etc

As for LH and LX verses UC rack
I know thaty had different ratios but I have also heard but not confirmed that tie rod arms are a different lenght

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#1230 Heath

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 06:39 PM

As for LH and LX verses UC rack
I know thaty had different ratios but I have also heard but not confirmed that tie rod arms are a different lenght

if that is the case, it changes my stance on the issue a bit

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#1231 ls2lxhatch

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 07:17 PM

The owner will need to send me his/hers steering arms to ream the ends to suit the outer tie rod ends, (I will ream them in the kit price).

I have three suspension setups.

UC with UC rack
UC with Axistr power rack
LX with Cortina power rack

I am very interested to hear how the Axistr rack is significantly different to the UC rack in terms of geometry.

Edited by ls2lxhatch, 25 July 2010 - 07:18 PM.

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#1232 _cruiza_

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 09:52 PM

I am very interested to hear how the Axistr rack is significantly different to the UC rack in terms of geometry.

Where did I say "significant", it only takes minor changes to make major differences

And getting back to the point I keep making and you seem most determined to miss, we do not know exactly what setup the car Tim is working on are, steering arms and stubs

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#1233 ls2lxhatch

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Posted 25 July 2010 - 11:47 PM

I thought we were discussing what steering arms Axistr recommends to use with his power steering. I have tried to explain that Axistr recommends using the same steering arms you would use with a factory rack.

what the setup recommended by the maker of the power steer is.

Twice you mentioned that the Axistr power steering has better location and geometry.

From what I have seen of the power steer rack it is very different in location to standard rack, much better then standard rack in fact.

I have been to Dirtbags shed and had a look at the setup and we had a chat about it a few weeks back, it was Tim who pointed out to me the Power steer rack had better location and geometry the standard rack.

If the power steering does have a better location and geometry that produces measurable improvements then I would call that significant no matter how subtle the changes are. Axistr has also mentioned the power rack is better than the factory rack however he has not explained what is better. I would like to know what is better about the Axistr power steering rack.

In WA a bump steer analysis is required for registration. I could get the suspension workshop to plot the improvements of the Axistr rack vs the factory rack if I know what to look for.

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#1234 _berro59_

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 09:34 AM

Hi Dirtbag,
I have been following your progress from day one as I am also converting a UC hatch. Can you tell me where you got your drop tank from as I want to buy one. How much was it? Keep up the great work!

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#1235 _dirtbag_

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 06:42 PM

Well it's been a while since I added anything so figured I'd better get some more pics up here.

First thing I did was make a return line to suit the new fuel rails. I just used 5/16 bundy tube.

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Luckily for me the drop tank already had a fitting for a return line which I had just blocked off. It's the hose at the top of the tank.

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Here it is at the fuel rail. I'll have to fit a regulator in here eventually.

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I also fitted some foam/rubber to the inside of the collars where the intake pipes run through.

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I put the wiper motor back together with tiny stasinless allen bolts.

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I also started on the A/C. This is all you can see of the plumbing in the engine bay.

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I also fitted all the engine wiring and computer back into the car and hooked it all up.

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Here's some of the A/C hoses fitted. I don't like the look of an alloy radiator through a black grill, but luckily there wont be much of it visible soon.

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Here's the A/C condenser fitted. It's as big as I could fit in the space available. It should do a good job.

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I also thought I'd give the dash a quick paint with some matt black, so if there are any gaps in the plastic the yellow etch primer wont show through the gaps.

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Put the exhaust back on and it now has a tailshaft. Once the clutch is bled it should move on it's own. Has no brakes yet though : )

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Finally after all the A/C stuff was fitted I could fit the front spoiler. I had to put a front flare on too just to see how it looked.

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Pretty tail pipes. I can't wait to get the chrome back. Bumpers will make a big difference. So will painting inside the fuel filler tunnel and fitting the number plate mount.

Does aonyone have a decent chrome number plate light they'd like to sell me PLEASE!!!!!!!

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#1236 _dirtbag_

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 07:04 PM

Finally got the wiper mechs painted so could fit the wiper motor.

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After trying a few brands I finally found a vinyl spray that I liked the look of to do the dash. It's just motospray satin black, but I like it.

I even took the A/C unit apart and painted it, as it looked mega crap next to the freshly painted dash. The column copped the same treatment before it was put back in too.

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I even had a little helper today.

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I had to put the covers back on just so I could look at it again after all the dramas with the new fuel rails. Long story, too lazy to tell it. But it actually starts and runs now.

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The dynamat arrived today so I started putting that in this arvo. I've never used it before. It was quite fun in some sick way : )

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I did the underside of the roof. Geez it makes a big difference. Tap on the roof now with a finger tip and it just goes "thud". Very impressed.

I also glued the new B pillar/rear side window vinyl on. I have a graet fear of contact adhesive : )

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Here's just a couple of pics for the sake of it, just because I like them : )

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So does anyone have a decent chrome number plate light I can buy?

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#1237 _cruiza_

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 07:14 PM

Hello Mr Dirt looking very nice indeed,
I had a chrome number plate light but I painted it hehe

Looks nice

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#1238 _Kush_

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:17 PM

I always seem to get a hard on when you post up your progress on this beast. Weird huh?
Ps. Buy a number plate light from rares ya tight bastard!

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#1239 _Woodsy_

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 08:48 PM

Looks fantastic Dirtbag.. Wont be long now, you will have to get another Torana project when this one is finished so your allowed on the forum... lol

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#1240 _Torrie_Man_

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:10 PM

Hey Dirtbag cross your fingers and you might find one at the Nambour Swap Meet. Might even bump into you there :spoton:

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#1241 _dirtbag_

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:17 PM

I always seem to get a hard on when you post up your progress on this beast. Weird huh?
Ps. Buy a number plate light from rares ya tight bastard!

Hahaha. Sorry for the blood rush : )

I didn't even know rare spares had them I'll give them a bell, thanks for the heads up Kush.

Thanks Woodsy. I can't afford a hatch, so I'll just have to disappear into oblivion : )

Torrie_man, keep an eye out for me. I'll be the big ugly dirtbag : )

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#1242 _Kush_

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 09:27 PM

^^^ yeah I try to remind him about that from time to time.... Let's pass the hat around

ps. This was to woodsy's reply. I'm a bit slow

Edited by Kush, 29 July 2010 - 09:29 PM.

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#1243 _mick74lh_

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 11:36 PM

Looking really good Dirtbag. This car just keeps getting better.

Why are you scared of contact adhesive?

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#1244 _dirtbag_

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 12:06 AM

Hey Mick. It scares me because it's a one shot deal. Not too much room for error there : )

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#1245 _2wild4u_

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 12:30 AM

coming along nicely, god knows how you are going to be able to give this thing up

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#1246 _greenmachine215_

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 03:44 AM

^^^AGREED^^^ Id turn around and tell my brother that the car was just a figment of his imagination, there was NEVER A TORANA. This is your car, he's just having a realistic dream and spending lots of money at the same time,

Did you get your little gift in the post yet??

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#1247 _dirtbag_

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 07:08 AM

Hi Marc. Yes I did get the coupling you sent. That stuff looks great. Thanks so much for sending it up��<img src="http://www.gmh-toran...ult/spoton.gif" />

I owe you one.

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#1248 76lxhatch

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 08:38 AM

It scares me because it's a one shot deal. Not too much room for error there : )

Are you using the right stuff? You should be able reposition for at least 20 minutes after applying, after an hour or so you'll start to rip the paint off though...

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#1249 _dirtbag_

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 03:14 PM

Well it turns out rare spares DON'T do a complete number plate light, so is there anyone out there with a good chrome one they'd like to sell me???????

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#1250 _Kush_

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Posted 30 July 2010 - 04:32 PM

Well it turns out rare spares DON'T do a complete number plate light, so is there anyone out there with a good chrome one they'd like to sell me???????

oh....... Crap! That means I gotta find one too! Sorry about that, I thought they sold them.