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msd dizzy clearence problems

Started by _SSbloke_ , Jan 22 2010 03:58 PM

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#1 _SSbloke_

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 03:58 PM

now i know someone told me about the clearence problems on the firewall lip , i now know they werent joking as i bought the msd set up Dizzy , blaster 3 coil, 6al, 8.5 mm leads . so has anybody got any fix for this problem . cheers ss bloke

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#2 76lxhatch

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 04:00 PM

Cut the firewall lip or replace the dizzy...? :(

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#3 _SSbloke_

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 04:29 PM

Cut the firewall lip or replace the dizzy...? :(

i was hoping you werent goin to say that ......

has anyone ever heated the dizzy cap and angled the back three nibs forward

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 06:52 PM

I wouldent.....

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 07:23 PM

I wouldent.....

yeah ive been looking at it that would just wreck it ,just looking at what other caps will fit it. gunna at least try all options before i start hacking into the car, see how i go

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 03:48 PM

MSD don't make a cap that fits, I've tried. I ended up getting an original dissy rebuilt & regraphed to the same specs as the MSD, coverted it to electronic pickup & hooked it into the white wire on the MSD box. The MSD dissy in my toolbox waiting for the next car that it will fit into.
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#7 _mumbo_

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 04:11 PM

I dont no what you guys are doin but mine fits easy no mods
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#8 _mumbo_

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 04:50 PM

Just found box it came in it is a MSD PRO-BILLET DISTRIBUTER part#8589. Only thing i can think of is iam not using the lead clamp on top because i am using dif brand of leads

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#9 _SSbloke_

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 05:29 PM

Just found box it came in it is a MSD PRO-BILLET DISTRIBUTER part#8589. Only thing i can think of is iam not using the lead clamp on top because i am using dif brand of leads

looks pretty good to me mumbo there is 2 different sort of lead caps in the kit that i got might give the smaller ones a go before i start hacking into the shell

MSD don't make a cap that fits, I've tried. I ended up getting an original dissy rebuilt & regraphed to the same specs as the MSD, coverted it to electronic pickup & hooked it into the white wire on the MSD box. The MSD dissy in my toolbox waiting for the next car that it will fit into.
Cheers,
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i emailed MSD in the U.S. about this problem and it says the cap of 8437 fits this dizzy and has about 1/2 inch lower difference but is a standard leads end cap might be worth a try as well

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 06:19 PM

I dont no what you guys are doin but mine fits easy no mods

The difference between the HQ and Torana engine mount plates may be enough to make the dizzy fit with one but not the other. Which engine mount plates do you have mumbo?

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 06:49 PM

i emailed MSD in the U.S. about this problem and it says the cap of 8437 fits this dizzy and has about 1/2 inch lower difference but is a standard leads end cap might be worth a try as wel

Don't suppose they gave you the part number of the different cap?

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 06:54 PM

Here's how well mine fitted. I think I had HQ mounts at this stage. Torry mounts didn't really make it any better. When they say std leads I assume that this style of lead connection isn't std. Correct?
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 06:55 PM

When they say std leads I assume that this style of lead connection isn't std. Correct?

Correct, standard cap has female terminals

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 06:59 PM

Well that would work then. I think I had better track down another cap. I got another one but I can't remeber what the part number was. It's now 180 ks away in storage. I'll try to track it down when I'm next there.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 07:11 PM

Can you buy a flat cap for these with the leads coming out from the sides?
http://www.msdigniti...istributor.aspx

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#16 _mumbo_

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 07:16 PM

Here's how well mine fitted. I think I had HQ mounts at this stage. Torry mounts didn't really make it any better. When they say std leads I assume that this style of lead connection isn't std. Correct?

Mine has the same cap as yours so it must be the engine mounts my engine seems to sit ferther forward.
My dizy is not under the lip like yours it just in front

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 07:24 PM

I'm sure it was HQ mounts at this stage. The Torry mounts made it worse as they lifted the front of the motor, which made the extractors fit... That rear lead terminal was only a couple of mm away from the firewall lip. That crab cap would probably work ok. I don't have picture of the dissy from the side.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 08:07 PM

i emailed MSD in the U.S. about this problem and it says the cap of 8437 fits this dizzy and has about 1/2 inch lower difference but is a standard leads end cap might be worth a try as wel

Don't suppose they gave you the part number of the different cap?

if you get on the u.s. msd site look for 8437 distributor cap it has a photo and they were $21 U.S

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 08:29 PM

So SSbloke, you gonna get one to try? let me know how it goes!!

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#20 _mumbo_

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 08:42 PM

If it was mine i would gently tap the lip back you could make it look factory and you prob would not see it anyway

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:00 PM

Mumbo, In the picture it looks like the gutter has been trimmed off the lip on your car. This would increase the clearance a small amount.

Another possible cause of clearance issues is the angle of the engine. The engine angle can vary considerably depending on gearbox and crossmember choice. It may be the engine is lower at the back on cars with clearance problems which would cause the dizzy to lean into the lip. A spacer under the gearbox mount may do the trick.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 10:05 PM

You are probably right Andy. My tremec can't go any higher, I have tried. All it needs would be to have the rear of the trans lifted 10mm, that would make all the difference at the dissy.