Cheers i want to clean it up and paint it before it goes in and then get the discs recoed.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:05 PM
Well more problems with it and im fed up so ive decided to sell and sadly i dont think i will buy anotger old car again. Im just sick of the problems. If someone here wants it pm me
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:23 PM
What is wrong with it this time? I sort of understand what you are saying about new cars being more reliable but when stuff goes wrong on new cars it is normally big $$$ to fix. At least with the Toranas you can do it yourself. My Uncle has a BMW that you can't even check the oil on it yourself lol, have to take it into the dealer.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:28 PM
Noises from the gearbox. Ive had it as my daily for nearly 4years and ive spent over 7 k on it and have nothing to show for it except a slow, unreliable peice of shot and no money.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:49 PM
Sell the other 3 you've got then and make some money back. Really these cars are a piece of piss to keep going cheaply. I'm sure someone on here will sell you a cheap gearbox if you need one.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:58 PM
There's a guy on eBay selling reco boxes for bugger all. A properly set-up Holden 6 is about as reliable and cheap to run as you can get. If you drive carefully clutches and brake pads last forever.
As someone else said modern cars cost a fortune if something goes wrong. You can buy a good Holden 6 with a four speed for $500 bucks if something major happens, tune it yourself, maintenance is a piece of piss.
The only thing cheaper than an old Holden is an old Jap diesel ute and you have to be lucky to find one with a good motor.
That's what I reckon anyway.
As someone else said modern cars cost a fortune if something goes wrong. You can buy a good Holden 6 with a four speed for $500 bucks if something major happens, tune it yourself, maintenance is a piece of piss.
The only thing cheaper than an old Holden is an old Jap diesel ute and you have to be lucky to find one with a good motor.
That's what I reckon anyway.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:15 PM
Back up the truck a second.
What gearbox noises? Even if the box is shagged, to change it over is about 30 minutes work. No need to pull the clutch. You went to so much trouble to do the conversion...stick with it. I've been following your build 
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:38 PM
Cheers guys the thing is im 20 now and i want to save to buy a house or go averseas for a month or two. The furthest ive been from melb is canberra and that was paid for by someone else. I cant save if im sinking money into this faster than i can make it. Since ive had (nearly 4years) its had 2 motors 4 gearboxs and 3 diffs a full front emd rebuild and other bits and peices it just seems that no matter what i do im getting nowhere.
The current sound it while upshifting and cruising at higher revs.
Im at the stage where i will sell it and buy a commodore and be done with it just drive and not worry about it. Either that or i will have to spend 2k or more for a reco motor and box that will last (which i dont have). I dont have the tools to pull a motor out here or the room. It was bad enough doing the gearbox in a shared caport.
Also its so slow even with the 3.9 gears that my mates woth commodore and the like just laught at me.
So idk what to do.
The current sound it while upshifting and cruising at higher revs.
Im at the stage where i will sell it and buy a commodore and be done with it just drive and not worry about it. Either that or i will have to spend 2k or more for a reco motor and box that will last (which i dont have). I dont have the tools to pull a motor out here or the room. It was bad enough doing the gearbox in a shared caport.
Also its so slow even with the 3.9 gears that my mates woth commodore and the like just laught at me.
So idk what to do.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 08:25 PM
If you end up getting a new box, maybe consider an mc6 ("Torquemaster" lol) instead of an m20, have had no problems with mine at all.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 08:42 PM
If i have to replace bits again ill park it up if it doesnt sell and wait until im ready to spend the money on a t5 box and either a v8 or v6.
What i really need to do is as above a full reco motor and box which i cant afford and then someone that doesnt charge a million bucks to help me with it so i dont stuff it all up again. Then i need new front carpet to suit the manual and a proper boot and seal around the shifter. Manual console. Rust repairs and badge holes welded up. Needs a new diff. I dont want to throw the current diff in yet as i want to rebuild it so it doesnt fail. Then again i want an lsd centre (impossible to find). The the rear callipers need a reco and new handbrake cables.
And whats listed above is just what essentially needs doing to keep me out of trouble. And as of now i have about $50 until i get paid next haha and still owe 300 on the current box.
So as you can see i need a lot of money to keep my car reliable which i dont have.
What i really need to do is as above a full reco motor and box which i cant afford and then someone that doesnt charge a million bucks to help me with it so i dont stuff it all up again. Then i need new front carpet to suit the manual and a proper boot and seal around the shifter. Manual console. Rust repairs and badge holes welded up. Needs a new diff. I dont want to throw the current diff in yet as i want to rebuild it so it doesnt fail. Then again i want an lsd centre (impossible to find). The the rear callipers need a reco and new handbrake cables.
And whats listed above is just what essentially needs doing to keep me out of trouble. And as of now i have about $50 until i get paid next haha and still owe 300 on the current box.
So as you can see i need a lot of money to keep my car reliable which i dont have.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 09:02 PM
I must admit I understand where your coming from. In my early 20's I had a money pit too. However sometimes you need to slow done and spend a bit more time getting things right so they become more reliable. Just beware, sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't. Buying a cheap commodore and expecting that to be reliable and cheap to run is a foolish thought. That could end up worse.
In saying that, only you can make the final decision. Just don't make it in haste!!
Good luck with your thoughts and which ever path you take.
In saying that, only you can make the final decision. Just don't make it in haste!!
Good luck with your thoughts and which ever path you take.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 09:14 PM
I'd rather a Torana over a Commodore anyday.
Who cares if your mates laugh at you.
With all due respect, grow a set and sort it out.
You will never solve your problems by running away from them.
I guarantee in 6 months you will be cursing your crappadore and wishing you had kept the torry.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 09:29 PM
I wouldnt say its running away from problems as ive been working at them for how many years now? The problem is i have yet to see any reward for tge money spent except a slowly deteriorating car the doesnt seem to get any better no matter what i do. Maybe what i really need is someone to help as ive done it all myself with advice off here and no real guidance when doing it in person.
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 10:45 PM
Hey Hawk if you've got it back in melbourne I'm happy to give you a hand. Just let me know. I havent got any 6 cylinder m20s but am sure they're not that hard to get hold of.
How about instead of buying more cars you sell the ones you've got that you don't need. Chuck the panels back on the rolling toranas to at least make them look sort of complete and they'll make you enough money to get you out of the shit.
And what about that R31? I thought it was pretty much good?
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 10:50 PM
Don't encourage the lad.And what about that R31? I thought it was pretty much good?
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Posted 15 August 2013 - 11:19 PM
Just keep it simple for now mate.
Sorry if I came on a bit strong earlier, just don't want to see you throw it away after all your hard work.
Any car you get for 3k is gonna cost you at least that again to get it reliable, and a Commodore will never handle like your torrie does.
You've got plenty of time to save up for a V8 and all the fruit if that's what you want.
However, its your car, your life and your decision, and you are the one that will have to live with the decision you make, so good luck mate, and either way I hope it works out for you.
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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:04 AM
Hi Hawk
Dont sell you car.Sell all yr other cars R31 and rollers etc for what you can get.
And Buy something like this.
http://www.gumtree.c...edan/1025618135
By the sounds of the ad the car seems fairly sorted and its a clone of yours hence you have spare everything.
Have a long chat with him ask all the right questions talk him down to 1200. By a $60 flight and drive it home. Sell drag ways for 250 and a few other bits and it will have half paid itself off.
All the best.
Dont sell you car.Sell all yr other cars R31 and rollers etc for what you can get.
And Buy something like this.
http://www.gumtree.c...edan/1025618135
By the sounds of the ad the car seems fairly sorted and its a clone of yours hence you have spare everything.
Have a long chat with him ask all the right questions talk him down to 1200. By a $60 flight and drive it home. Sell drag ways for 250 and a few other bits and it will have half paid itself off.
All the best.
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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:12 AM
Im up in albury still and the car wont make it to mebourne again until its sorted thanks for the offer though the other cars i have are the gold uc for parts and the r31. Im advertising the r31 locally but have had no interest yet. The lh and lx at my parents are my dads so i camt sell them. The gold uc i cant get rolling again as ive robbed too many parts odd it to keep the red one going like the diff and discs.
I need to get it reliable enough thay i can drive it to melbourne at the speed limit reliably on a regular basis. Last time i drove to melb the gearbox died and the manual conversion was the result of that. And for some reason my carby froze while i was driving and made the car die until the ice melted.
I need to get it reliable enough thay i can drive it to melbourne at the speed limit reliably on a regular basis. Last time i drove to melb the gearbox died and the manual conversion was the result of that. And for some reason my carby froze while i was driving and made the car die until the ice melted.
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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:15 AM
Mat that uc is too good to wreck and i domt have anywhrre to put it
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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:27 AM
Mat that uc is too good to wreck and i domt have anywhrre to put it
Too good to wreck are perfect donors to keep your vic registered car running. As you know its a pain to get a old car reg rwc here in vic but once it is yr sweet. If you put those cars for 99c on ebay you might be surprised what they will go for.
Keep positive youll work out a way.
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Posted 16 August 2013 - 07:29 AM
Cant be that bad, iv spent 10k on mine without bodywork and would drive it anywhere in austraila if a had to. Even when it had a red 6 drove it more than i do now. Just check everythings done right and dont rush. Gearboxs are cheap, if its a noisy second hand one get a reco or get it fixed. Only takes 2 hours to take out and put back in.
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Posted 16 August 2013 - 10:58 AM
Put it this way i hardly trust it to get my the 10 min drive to work every day let alone the next town on the highway
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Posted 16 August 2013 - 11:19 AM
If you want a reliable car you dont have to work on buy a new one with warrenty. A 20-10 year old commodore falcon will give just as many if not more probs than a torana which are realy easy to work on.
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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:12 PM
Camt afford a new car and hate the idea of oweing the bank. One of the guys at work said it sounds like the flywheel is loose so out comes the box
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Posted 16 August 2013 - 01:56 PM
You have to sort out that diff. 3.9 is hopeless. It just stresses everything else out running around with a diff like that. Do the axle, drum brake swap if you can't afford to get the calipers done. All it will cost is the price of a bearing kit.
If you want a good cheap car to run you want a HC 173, with extractors, electronic ignition and maybe a Stromberg or your Weber. 3.08 diff and a reco or good M20, or go with an M22 with 2.78 for overdrive. I got one from the guy in Sydney, it was about $300 exchange plus 90 freight to get it up here. He pays the freight for the return. 173's use f all fuel, have enough power for a light car and cost nothing. You could probably swap your 202 for one.
The rust you can just keep bogging up until you have enough cash to do whatever with it.
You can do all that for a grand and if you drive it sensibly you will get at least 5 years relatively stress free motoring. Holden 6s only cost you money if you abuse them.
That's what I'd be aiming for if your 202 is on the way out. Isn't there a local old Holden or Torana club ? If you join it then you can get the help you need in exchange for helping out other members, maybe helping them sand their car or something.
Basic mechanics is easy. Once you've done a job once with someone who knows what they are doing you're away.
If you want a good cheap car to run you want a HC 173, with extractors, electronic ignition and maybe a Stromberg or your Weber. 3.08 diff and a reco or good M20, or go with an M22 with 2.78 for overdrive. I got one from the guy in Sydney, it was about $300 exchange plus 90 freight to get it up here. He pays the freight for the return. 173's use f all fuel, have enough power for a light car and cost nothing. You could probably swap your 202 for one.
The rust you can just keep bogging up until you have enough cash to do whatever with it.
You can do all that for a grand and if you drive it sensibly you will get at least 5 years relatively stress free motoring. Holden 6s only cost you money if you abuse them.
That's what I'd be aiming for if your 202 is on the way out. Isn't there a local old Holden or Torana club ? If you join it then you can get the help you need in exchange for helping out other members, maybe helping them sand their car or something.
Basic mechanics is easy. Once you've done a job once with someone who knows what they are doing you're away.
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