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Started by hawk , Jan 31 2010 11:12 AM

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#551 _Quagmire_

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 10:13 PM

308/304
injected or carbed
easy and cheap
all the others require a lot of dollars/enginering/welding frocking around

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#552 hawk

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 10:39 PM

i will be saving and doing it right so won't be on the cheap.

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#553 _LS1 Taxi_

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 10:43 PM

Cool. Forget the gay RB conversion and go V8. Like quagmire says, 304 is a good idea for cheap reliable power

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#554 _LS2 Hatch_

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 08:15 PM

No such thing as a cheap conversion.
Engine and get it built/rebuilt
Radiator
Gearbox and clutch with crossmember
Tailshaft
Diff
Brake upgrade
Fuel system
Plus the incidentals that can seriously add up.
There is no change from 10-12 grand, and that's without any labour costs if you need to get someone to help you.
Once that's done you will more than likely want to do body and interior.
Good luck any way you go and don't lose sight of your dream. However, don't kid yourself. Cars aren't cheap no mater what you do!

Sorry if that sounds like I'm discouraging you cause that's not my aim. I have read and felt your frustrations, and your call for help with guidance. This forum can guide you, but if you are the one carrying out the works, you need to be prepared to fail a few times before you get on top of things.

As I said above, good luck and don't forget your dream!!!!!

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#555 hawk

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 08:53 PM

Cheers as i said i want to do it right this time with all new or rebuilt parts. i am currently looking at a 308 and auto which i could pick up for 400-500 then save and have the motor rebuilt

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#556 hawk

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 09:04 PM

Well i pulled the 202 down a bit today and found the problem... the head gasket was blown between cylinders 4 and 5.

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#557 _Lazarus_

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:00 PM

If you're going for injection why not go with an injected 202 ?

That would be the cheapest. And no engineer's certificate.

Stick a 12 port head and VK injection on your motor (or buy a complete engine), an aftermarket fuel only ECU and a nice little cam and extractors.

A Celica 5 speed conversion maybe, and Bob's your Mum's boyfriend.

Until you start calling him Dad, that is.

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#558 _mick74lh_

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:00 PM

The injected 202 is good and cheap. And you can use the M76 five speed which bolts straight up. Bogans will say that its too weak but only if you're flat out abusive to it. With the overdriven 5th gear you could keep your short diff gears and it will cruise nicely on the highway as well.

Or if you want even better and cheaper fit a gas system to the injected manifold. In my VK I used an Impco 225 inline mixer and the VK EFI manifold and throttle body. Because it's straight gas I blanked off the injector holes with appropriately sized welsh plugs. The engine, gearbox and gas system (excluding tank and certification) cost me under 1K. Its rough but cheap as to run and responsive to drive.

And with gas you can run higher comp.

If you want it to look neater you could use a Gasresearch throttle body / mixer like this guy has:

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#559 hawk

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 03:15 PM

Well I've had it advertised for a while now on facebook and here and havnt had any rear interest so I've been doing little bits here and there. I've put the motor back together with new gaskets. i diassembled and cleaned the tail lights and got rid of the tow bar.

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#560 hawk

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 03:17 PM

I'm cleaning up tge boot area a bit now and am scraping the black tar stuff out then i will wire wheel it or something like that, have the holes in the floor welded up and paint in there.but thay won't be for a long time as i will slowly chip away when i feel like it

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#561 _Lazarus_

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 03:42 PM

If you're using an angle grinder I've found the cone shaped wire brushes are heaps safer and easier to control than the actual wheel types. I only use the wheels for hard to get at places. The cone ones spit a few wires out here and there so make sure you are well covered but the wheel ones can grab and kick and end up anywhere.... like tangled up in the front of your overalls for example.

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#562 hawk

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 04:25 PM

Well I'm slowly getting stuff done got half the tar put of the boot which took around five hours. then i cleaned the residue off with kerosene which i found works really well, so hopefully tomorrow ill be able to prime that side then ill start on the other.

it will stay like thay until i can get the badge holes in the quarters and the towbar holes welded up.

also found out what the problem is with the started and have been quoted $90 for a secondhand manual starter. aparently manual and auto are different?

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#563 _Lazarus_

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 05:21 PM

Ring around a few auto electricians and get quotes for having yours rebuilt.

90 bucks for a secondhand unit sounds a bit expensive to me.

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#564 _SRV_

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:23 PM

They're the same manual v auto, last secondhand one I bought was 10 bucks, I'd pass on that seller.

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#565 Ice

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 08:41 PM

Dont pay more than $50 for a starter second hand
and they are the same autos and manuals

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#566 hawk

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:23 PM

Cheers will lopk around although i think its the gear on mine that's stuffed as it sounds like its missing a tooth when i turn it over

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#567 Heath

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 04:35 PM

Sure the ring gear on the flywheel isn't the problem?

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#568 hawk

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 08:08 PM

The ring gear was fine when i put it in but it is a bit chewed up now because of the starter.

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#569 hawk

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 09:36 PM

Well i havnt been able to get on here for a few months so thought i would do a small update.

The falcon i bought is up for rego next week and needs tyres to pass blue slip so i got the torana looked over.
The list was:
Exhaust leak
Clutch cover
Brake pedal pad
Wash down oil leaks/grime on motor

After a bit of work it passed roady today so im stoked thay i can drive it again soon.

I have also been through the top end of the motor with new gaskets and fitted a stock cast manifold as the extractors were cracked from the backfire. So it turns out that the cog coming off the dizzy did more damage than i thought. It ended up needing the two gaskets, cracked extractors replaced, new flywheel (yet to be bought) and the cog.

The motor still seems to be running a bit rough and is blowing a bit of black smoke. Not sure if its missing on a cylinder or the head gasket didnt seal right so i might try and pick up another motor when i can.

Anyway the car still looks the same so no need for pics

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#570 N/A-PWR

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 09:45 PM

Excellent News Steve,

So the Torana passed today, great stuff. Dave I

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#571 hawk

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 04:39 PM

Yeah and got it regoed today

Also sold the foulcan so i have 1 k put aside to buy or build a motor

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#572 _mick74lh_

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:16 PM

Awesome!

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#573 Potta

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 02:19 AM

Yeah and got it regoed today

Also sold the foulcan so i have 1 k put aside to buy or build a motor

Well done mate, it'll all work out in the end.

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#574 hawk

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Posted 17 January 2014 - 04:21 PM

Thanks but i already broke it. I snapped the bit that goes to the 3/4 selector shaft on the way home from work so i have no third and fourth gear.

Just typical