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[Bathurst72]

Hi to all. Iam looking at in the very near future possible buying an L34, but I want a real one not a bodged up re-shell or a piece of junk.

There are two on carsales.com.au, a white one form Victoria slightly modified but has the bits to return it to original with damage to left rear panel and a Sebring orange one in Queensland, pretty much original.

Does anybody know if they are originals and have the correct running gear, especailly the correct engine?

If any one has know history please PM or email me.

Anyhelp would be appreciated and if you dont want to reply here please contact me at [email protected] or email/PM me your phone number and I will ring you back.

thanks and cheers

Steve

[REDA9X]

I know one of the sebring cars was sold a few times on AMCS and it's been reshelled.

[unclefestal34s]

I know one of the sebring cars was sold a few times on AMCS and it's been reshelled.

thats one thats currently advertised on carsales,..that is the reshelled one..

[REDA9X]

yes if you are looking at an L34, I would seriously consider spending a little money to get an expert to have a look at the car for you, someone like outacontrol on the forum here.

[unclefestal34s]

i also have kept records of L34s for quite some time having been around then for over 25 years..I've owned dozen in that time and still own a handful,I've bought 4 them also for current forum members who still have them..

people these days will research the market before they buy and spend there money wisely even if there not in the know..  the first questions generally asked are about the engine prefix and the id tags if any them are missing i know from my experience i use walk away from the car..

but like anything the old cliche if its too cheap there's something wrong with it doesn't always apply the thing is not everyone wants to own a L34..  most L34s were well and truly used in there time but there are still a few good survivors still out there and some good restored ones out there..  i think you'll find most L34s are still traceable in there history as people who bought them knew they were buying the top dog...

as for being careful its goes without saying but most in the know will tell you the L34 has unique parts to it and can be distinguished by most experts...  its one thing for someone to make up tags and another thing to bring them into the system as such but its not impossible then again if i personally saw a car that was that new in every department i would be chasing its history down as much as i could cause sooner or later someone out knows something about it especially if you have doubt and if your history check hits a brick wall then use own discretion..

i recently received a phone call picking my brains about how to identify a L34 the call was suspicious but he finely came clean and told me recently bought it,..  my reply was simple you own the car and obviously knew what you buying i asked so whats the problem..  the engine number he gave me didn't stack up and decided wasn't going to educate him as he wasn't up front from the word go....basically if your genuinely in the market to buy and are realistic people like myself will advise and others on the forum... 

Edited by enderwigginau, 11 February 2010 - 08:19 PM.
edited for clarity

[SWOOP74]

Just some info on the Sebring Orange L34`s there were only 3 that colour ordered by Bob Jane.
ONE (1) Writen off.
TWO (2) Re-Shell Currently in Queensland for sale.
THREE (3) Very Original and Currently resides in NSW.

[unclefestal34s]

and swoop74 is the proud owner of the last remaining one...don't be so shy i mean its only a L34 but a real one...

[REDA9X]

Unclefesta you bring up a good point, many people have asked questions in the past about cars and not been very up front as to their reasons why. I had a guy call me a few years ago about a car asking all sorts of strange things, I stupidly said too much, later found out the car was a fake and he was doing everything in his power to make the car genuine, luckily I had records of that car from it's previous dodgy history.

[unclefestal34s]

Just some info on the Sebring Orange L34`s there were only 3 that colour ordered by Bob Jane.
ONE (1) Writen off.
TWO (2) Re-Shell Currently in Queensland for sale.
THREE (3) Very Original and Currently resides in NSW.

ONE{!} actually was written off in wa and reshelled and raced again and was advertised for around 280 g around 2.5 yrs ago .Even had new tags made but copied commodore info onto them.Real dodgy.

yes i saw that one got some info on the car..

[originalglenn]

i also have kept records of L34s for quite some time having been around then for over 25 years..I've owned dozen in that time and still own a handful,I've bought 4 them also for current forum members who still have them..people these days will research the market before they buy and spend there money wisely even if there not in the know..the first questions generally asked are about the engine prefix and the id tags if any them are missing i know from my experience i use walk away from the car..but like anything the old cliche if its too cheap there's something wrong with it doesn't always apply the thing is not everyone wants to own a L34..most L34s were well and truly used in there time but there are still a few good survivors still out there and some good restored ones out there..i think you'll find most L34s are still traceable in there history as people who bought them knew they were buying the top dog...as for being careful its goes without saying but most in the know will tell you the L34 has unique parts to it and can be distinguished by most experts...its one thing for someone to make up tags and another thing to bring them into the system as such but its not impossible then again if i personally saw a car that was that new in every department i would be chasing its history down as much as i could cause sooner or later someone out knows something about it especially if you have doubt and if your history check hits a brick wall then use own discretion..i recently received a phone call picking my brains about how to identify a L34 the call was suspicious but he finely came clean and told me recently bought it,..my reply was simple you own the car and obviously knew what you buying i asked so whats the problem the engine number he gave me didn't stack up and decided wasn't going to educate him as he wasn't up front from the word go....basically if your genuinly in the market to buy and are realistic people like myself will advise and others on the forum...

hi uncle festa (pls take this in the good spirit intended)

you need to use line breaks(press enter at the end of a sentence , go on press it twice ) so your posts can be read more easily

[REDA9X]

If tags are being reproduced, this needs to be looked at, quite simply, it's illegal. It concerns me people know aout it and who is responsible.

[dattoman]

They are so tight they aint telling

[yel327]

If it is the one in QLD you are looking at that is a known reshell, i'd still buy it over an SLR5000 if it has all it's original stuff (inc tags), it's done right and the price is right. At least you know what you have. If it's bodgy eg an LX shell was used or if many of the original L34 bits are missing then maybe avoid it?

[REDA9X]

surely someone in the L34 CIRCLE knows who owns this car sebring orange 1190 -19v trim code and body number 441632M.... geez i thought u guys were tight??

Maybe someone would be more willing to give you the answer if you filled us in as to why you want to know.

[enderwigginau]

Not discounting the purists' opinions, but if a car is reshelled legally and it's not kept a secret then I don't see the prob, but obviously the car can't be worth the same as a fully original car.

There is an L34 in Sydney (yellow I think) that was destroyed in a race incident. �My old LH shell and rubberless bumpers were used to rebuild it with ALL the original parts. AFAIK it is still being campaigned, but if it were for sale I know the owner would not make a secret of the fact it had to be rebuilt. �He'd probably give you all the pics with the car!!

So long as you know, it's not an issue if the rest is ridgy didge. �As has been said, L34s copped a flogging in their day, and they were worth so little for so long that many came into the ownership of those who didn't show them the respect they deserved. �7-8 yrs ago, dealer where only offering $12-50k for them!

Grant..