im planing on getting one of them compleat 350 crate motors form eagle auto parts to put in my lx torana just woundering if thay are worth buying one or would it be betta buying a 308 rebuilding it and put vn heads, cam ect...?
eagle auto parts pty.ltd. brand new 350 crate motor, are thay worth the money or not?
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Posted 20 February 2010 - 06:07 PM
The VN headed 308 will cost you twice as much
And the Chev will be funner... is that a word... doesn't matter... it explains what I mean
Whats in it now ?
Igf you need to buy manifolds etc as sounds like you do... I'd rev a chev anyday
But... with the $ OK right now... do some homework on crate motors...I posted a beauty the other day at a great price... link....hmmm
http://www.ultrastre..._realstreet.asp
Theres many more.... research
And the Chev will be funner... is that a word... doesn't matter... it explains what I mean
Whats in it now ?
Igf you need to buy manifolds etc as sounds like you do... I'd rev a chev anyday
But... with the $ OK right now... do some homework on crate motors...I posted a beauty the other day at a great price... link....hmmm
http://www.ultrastre..._realstreet.asp
Theres many more.... research
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Posted 20 February 2010 - 07:12 PM
its got nothing in it at the moment it did have a 6 in it but got rid of the boat anchor.
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Posted 20 February 2010 - 07:35 PM
i got one off the 290HP 350 crate motors in my ski boat. seems to be a good thing. got it trade price for $2650 back when they retailed at $2960.
this one here ive got...
http://www.eagleauto....au/gmhp290.htm
and then i changed the cam and sump and fitted manifold and a big shinny thing and 2 petrol things and a shinny dizzy.
goes good and revs to 6K
this one here ive got...
http://www.eagleauto....au/gmhp290.htm
and then i changed the cam and sump and fitted manifold and a big shinny thing and 2 petrol things and a shinny dizzy.
goes good and revs to 6K
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Posted 20 February 2010 - 08:18 PM
You put it in back to front
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Posted 20 February 2010 - 08:24 PM
I had a look at both links - why don't Eagle put prices on their website - that really sh!ts me.
This would be the one I would go for : 427 Alloy small block
This would be the one I would go for : 427 Alloy small block
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Posted 20 February 2010 - 09:05 PM
Chev will cost more, so it all depends on what you can afford.
I had no v8 parts to start off, and chose Chev over holden. I run a Mild-warm 383 and I'm happy.
I had no v8 parts to start off, and chose Chev over holden. I run a Mild-warm 383 and I'm happy.
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 08:43 AM
well with the job i got now i carnt really afford to scratch my bum, i got a price off one of my dads mates to rebuild a 308 and he said depends what you can afford, depends if i want to bolt together a cheap motor with cheap parts or a good strong motor with good quallity pars will cost more not includeing the price of the motor. just a basic rebuild withe acl kit and and machineing parts will cost $3,500. so i thought it would be betta to with a 300 hp 350 from eagle and thats got every thing from carby and air filter and ignition and spark plugs
or would it be betta to get a ls1 and shoehorn it in?
or would it be betta to get a ls1 and shoehorn it in?
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 08:51 AM
I had a look at both links - why don't Eagle put prices on their website - that really sh!ts me.
This would be the one I would go for : 427 Alloy small block
yea i saw an add in street machine mag for that mob and thay had a 402 small block with 485hp didnt come with carby or ignition for $4.800 sumthing and $990 for shipping
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 09:06 AM
Conversion Bits if you go chev, Will add up $$$$
Custom Extrators to suit torana + Twin Exhuast
Sump + pick-up to suit torana
Custom Engine mounts
More expensive gearbox + Crossmember + speedo cable
Small starter motor + longer battery cable
Radiator
Just something to think about,
Custom Extrators to suit torana + Twin Exhuast
Sump + pick-up to suit torana
Custom Engine mounts
More expensive gearbox + Crossmember + speedo cable
Small starter motor + longer battery cable
Radiator
Just something to think about,
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 09:57 AM
All things he'll have to buy anyway cause he only has a 6 in there now
So the cost of Chev v's 308 when you have nothing to start with won't be alot higher
Infact... the parts may cost slightly more but the engine will cost less
So its a balance
Forget LS1 if you have no money
It will cost you 3x+ for that
Its all custom or high priced stuff plus computer etc etc
So the cost of Chev v's 308 when you have nothing to start with won't be alot higher
Infact... the parts may cost slightly more but the engine will cost less
So its a balance
Forget LS1 if you have no money
It will cost you 3x+ for that
Its all custom or high priced stuff plus computer etc etc
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:09 PM
well i was going to get everything to fit it from CRS. get everything all in one hit and try a get some sort of discount. my orignal plan was to fit an efi 5L out of a vn or vs but with the computer and extra wireing it was gunna cost to much plus when you wanna tune it you have to put it on a dyno and thats even more money plus living in tassie we dont have very many people that can tune efi motor propaly. my every day driver is a vs calais with a hsv enhanced 5L in it and i had to drive 31/2 to 4 hours to get that tuned on a dyno.
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 04:50 PM
well some of yas say it will be cheaper and some say it will cost more! im just woundering if any one has done this conversion to tell me ruffley how much its gunna cost???
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 05:10 PM
Aside from getting a decent exhaust in there and the cost of a sump, most other accessories such as radiator, mounts etc should work out about the same.
Me personally, i could get a 308 into a torana about 1/2 the price of a chev, using mostly second hand parts but not everyone has the same level of experience.
As above, getting decent extractors and a sump to fit seem the greatest challenge.
check out post #14
Me personally, i could get a 308 into a torana about 1/2 the price of a chev, using mostly second hand parts but not everyone has the same level of experience.
As above, getting decent extractors and a sump to fit seem the greatest challenge.
check out post #14
Edited by TerrA LX, 21 February 2010 - 05:12 PM.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 12:18 AM
Iv done a Holden V8 conversion and a Chev conversion, Anyone who says there the same cost to convert hasn't done the conversion themselves or they have spent money on the big dollar new parts. The problem is finding cheap parts around to convert to chev. Most of the time you will be forced to buy new. With a Holden conversion there is always someone selling secondhand parts for good prices.
Add in the cost for a decent diff too, All depends how you will be driving though.
I have spent about 7-8k On my Chev conversion.. and another 5k Fixing things that broke.
Add in the cost for a decent diff too, All depends how you will be driving though.
I have spent about 7-8k On my Chev conversion.. and another 5k Fixing things that broke.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:51 AM
the only shit bit of a chev is getting decent extractors.all the off the shelf ones are shit.and decent custom ones are $2500+
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 04:23 PM
i am gonna use a 9 inch cause of the conversions are popular and an off the shelf diff is gonna set me back $3,500. the torana is gonna be a weekend driver and all so gonna take it to the drags. if i can find a cheap 308 i could get one of my dads mates to build it to the same specs as his hatch back that he races in hill climbs which is very quick and sounds mean with the idol
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:53 PM
The VN headed 308 will cost you twice as much
And the Chev will be funner... is that a word... doesn't matter... it explains what I mean
Whats in it now ?
Igf you need to buy manifolds etc as sounds like you do... I'd rev a chev anyday
But... with the $ OK right now... do some homework on crate motors...I posted a beauty the other day at a great price... link....hmmm
http://www.ultrastre..._realstreet.asp
Theres many more.... research
Hi Neil, if you were to pay $15k AUD for one of these small blocks plus shipping, what do you think it would cost for the same in Aus ?? Everyone says there are problems with extractors etc. in the torana's, do you know if it the same for the HQ's ?
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:58 PM
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That wasn't the link I was looking for... but served the purpose
I think your local supplier is buying for around the internet price
Then shipping and whacking on something for their effort
And depending on the day of the week they might not be buying at the right exchange rate
So I think a local would gouge a couple of grand extra at least just for the priveledge of buying local
I had a customer in last week.. bought a 509 ci BBC
World products brand new block , alloy heads
All world gear... flash as... pics in where did my brakes go thread
He paid $17k landed for it
Same motor he he priced up was over 30k
Thing is everyone thinks their an imorter with the dollar good
This hurts local guys cause they aren't making their profits
Hopefully they can stay in business for when the glory days dry up and we NEED to buy local again
Q's have alot more room around them and came fitted with SBC's.... so I'd think if you buy the right pipes there would be no clearance probs on them
That wasn't the link I was looking for... but served the purpose
I think your local supplier is buying for around the internet price
Then shipping and whacking on something for their effort
And depending on the day of the week they might not be buying at the right exchange rate
So I think a local would gouge a couple of grand extra at least just for the priveledge of buying local
I had a customer in last week.. bought a 509 ci BBC
World products brand new block , alloy heads
All world gear... flash as... pics in where did my brakes go thread
He paid $17k landed for it
Same motor he he priced up was over 30k
Thing is everyone thinks their an imorter with the dollar good
This hurts local guys cause they aren't making their profits
Hopefully they can stay in business for when the glory days dry up and we NEED to buy local again
Q's have alot more room around them and came fitted with SBC's.... so I'd think if you buy the right pipes there would be no clearance probs on them
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Posted 25 February 2010 - 04:35 PM
well my mind is made up!!!! i am going to put a 308 in it. if thay came with v8s and there are heaps of parts that people have and cane sell cheap then why not fit one! well thankyou everyone that's given me there opinion and there expertise ya been a big help.
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