OK, I am after "YOUR" explanation or experience why you ( personally ) think that a holden engine is better than a ford engine. I ask this question as ,as you GMH guys think that holden made a far superior engine than ford did.
In asking the question, i don't wont to hear from the hear say guys or the text book wanna be's, i want to hear your experience. You can tell me that the A9x won more races than the GT HO, they had more 1,2 finishes than ford etc, don't care. Me personally, couldn't give a rats ass about the rivalry ,FORD v HOLDEN.
Look forward to reading the educated opinions.
No flame suit required, that's for the sooks.
FORD V's HOLDEN
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 07:48 PM
hey scottya im a little puzzled by your questions if you dont give a rats ass then why do you want to know???
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 07:49 PM
I never really got into the whole Ford vs Holden thing, i like them both equally.
It really pisses me off at work because even though i like both all the "Ford" supporters (most of which drive kias) just sit there and bag out my Toranas, for no reason other then i own them, its just rubbish.
I got a CHEBBY for my LH....Cause i dont have much interest in Holden v8's personally.
I think the Ford 8 is better than the Holden one, but nothing is better than a Chev
Cheers.
I never really got into the whole Ford vs Holden thing, i like them both equally.
It really pisses me off at work because even though i like both all the "Ford" supporters (most of which drive kias) just sit there and bag out my Toranas, for no reason other then i own them, its just rubbish.
I got a CHEBBY for my LH....Cause i dont have much interest in Holden v8's personally.
I think the Ford 8 is better than the Holden one, but nothing is better than a Chev
Cheers.
It really pisses me off at work because even though i like both all the "Ford" supporters (most of which drive kias) just sit there and bag out my Toranas, for no reason other then i own them, its just rubbish.
I got a CHEBBY for my LH....Cause i dont have much interest in Holden v8's personally.
I think the Ford 8 is better than the Holden one, but nothing is better than a Chev
Cheers.
I never really got into the whole Ford vs Holden thing, i like them both equally.
It really pisses me off at work because even though i like both all the "Ford" supporters (most of which drive kias) just sit there and bag out my Toranas, for no reason other then i own them, its just rubbish.
I got a CHEBBY for my LH....Cause i dont have much interest in Holden v8's personally.
I think the Ford 8 is better than the Holden one, but nothing is better than a Chev
Cheers.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 07:51 PM
Ford put the dizzy in the right spot.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 07:54 PM
It's not the engine that made the GMH products better, it was the total package, the race teams (including drivers) and the funding. No GMH V8 ever really raced against a GT-HO anyway, it was Chev engines and Holden sixes. The Ford Cleveland race engines were pretty awesome things once sorted, it was the cars that let them down (weight, tyres, brakes etc) and sometimes the drivers. Also (tongue in cheek) the last Holdens competitively raced in series production and Group C were the HT's in 1969. There was a small amount of Holdens raced after that (like the 4 door GTS in 1972/3) but from 1970 the Torana and Commodore became the weapons of choice.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:04 PM
hey scottya im a little puzzled by your questions if you don't give a rats ass then why do you want to know???
Hey bullitljv8, Been on a few forums looking and reading, the same ol' argument Holden v ford. One bloke will say Holden is better cause dizzy at the back, ford bloke say wouldn't have a Holden block for a boat anchor.
I have noticed on this forum a few members share the same mentality.
Just putting the question out there !
There is no right or wrong reason why one is superior than the other.(my opinion only)
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:06 PM
OK, i personally prefer HQ headed 308s because nothing sounds like them at WOT.
there a very quick reving motor, geared rightly there hard to beat on the street.
351 clevos are boring around town, they need wide open country roads (if theres any left) to wind up to there potontial
i like stovehot 289 windsors there cool as a street motor
327 small journal chevs beat the lot as a street motor, built right they rev big, 8000rpm
so you can see i prefer revvers over torquers,
there a very quick reving motor, geared rightly there hard to beat on the street.
351 clevos are boring around town, they need wide open country roads (if theres any left) to wind up to there potontial
i like stovehot 289 windsors there cool as a street motor
327 small journal chevs beat the lot as a street motor, built right they rev big, 8000rpm
so you can see i prefer revvers over torquers,
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:09 PM
Because Holden originated in Awstraylya an Ford didn't.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:10 PM
It's not the engine that made the GMH products better, it was the total package, the race teams (including drivers) and the funding. No GMH V8 ever really raced against a GT-HO anyway, it was Chev engines and Holden sixes. The Ford Cleveland race engines were pretty awesome things once sorted, it was the cars that let them down (weight, tyres, brakes etc) and sometimes the drivers. Also (tongue in cheek) the last Holdens competitively raced in series production and Group C were the HT's in 1969. There was a small amount of Holdens raced after that (like the 4 door GTS in 1972/3) but from 1970 the Torana and Commodore became the weapons of choice.
OK you obviously know what your talking about. So when you get a young bloke ( who was still in daddy's nuts)talking about fords are shit, Holden for me any-day, why and what would they know ?
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:21 PM
Right you are, i would have a 327 small journal engine any-day (pick of the small block chevs)OK, i personally prefer HQ headed 308s because nothing sounds like them at WOT.
there a very quick reving motor, geared rightly there hard to beat on the street.
351 clevos are boring around town, they need wide open country roads (if theres any left) to wind up to there potontial
i like stovehot 289 windsors there cool as a street motor
327 small journal chevs beat the lot as a street motor, built right they rev big, 8000rpm
so you can see i prefer revvers over torquers,
What makes a HQ head better than say a HDT "B"cast head. Is it better cross sectional area, better short turn radius.
Cleveland heads are a better head(due to cantered valve design) but choked big time low revs due to the design of the exhaust port .
289 windsor , under-rated engine !
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:31 PM
well personally i dont really care but the reason i like holdens is because i love the unique look of toranas
the first time i saw a pic of a torana i knew i had to have one
the first time i saw a pic of a torana i knew i had to have one
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:34 PM
well personally i dont really care but the reason i like holdens is because i love the unique look of toranas
the first time i saw a pic of a torana i knew i had to have one
not talking cars !
talking engines - hawk
i like toranas aswell, thats why i own one
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:49 PM
hey scottya im a little puzzled by your questions if you don't give a rats ass then why do you want to know???
Hey bullitljv8, Been on a few forums looking and reading, the same ol' argument Holden v ford. One bloke will say Holden is better cause dizzy at the back, ford bloke say wouldn't have a Holden block for a boat anchor.
I have noticed on this forum a few members share the same mentality.
Just putting the question out there !
There is no right or wrong reason why one is superior than the other.(my opinion only)
hey scottya yeah i hear ya its all bullshit i think every manufacturer be it holden ford chrysler ect ect have good and bad points there is just to many to list
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 09:06 PM
never owned a holden engine myself, been in a few tuff cars with holden engines, one that got my attention was an LH torana afew years ago had a 333 stroker, muncie box and a 9 inch diff. WOT gave me goose bumps
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 09:16 PM
as spoken by the gods themselves
"""""NEVER LATE IN A THREE O EIGHT """"""""""""""""
NO ENGINE HAS THE SAME NOISE HARMONICS .
"""""NEVER LATE IN A THREE O EIGHT """"""""""""""""
NO ENGINE HAS THE SAME NOISE HARMONICS .
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as spoken by the gods themselves
"""""NEVER LATE IN A THREE O EIGHT """"""""""""""""
NO ENGINE HAS THE SAME NOISE HARMONICS .
Learn something new everyday !
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 09:49 PM
want it to rev build a chev
me i like the 308's nice sound easy to upgrade and pop to work on
not like them fraurd motors
6 and 8
mind you if i ever own a REAL chev(not these gen 3 things) i might change my mind
me i like the 308's nice sound easy to upgrade and pop to work on
not like them fraurd motors
6 and 8
mind you if i ever own a REAL chev(not these gen 3 things) i might change my mind
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 10:35 PM
I was gonna say it's hard to beat the sound of a Holden V8 but a Ford V8 sounds pretty damn awesome too. Not like those lousy smallblock Chevs
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 10:45 PM
Your not allowed to mention Chev Heath dammit! Ford and Holden ONLY!
Otherwise I'd mention that the Rover V8 has the best factory burble of the lot!
Otherwise I'd mention that the Rover V8 has the best factory burble of the lot!
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 10:50 PM
Clevelands sound like the plug leads are on wrong.
And they just UGLY lookin too.
That said Im not a big fan of that thongslappin noise 253s and 308s make either...
Red 6s sound like angels weaving rainbows.
And they just UGLY lookin too.
That said Im not a big fan of that thongslappin noise 253s and 308s make either...
Red 6s sound like angels weaving rainbows.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 10:54 PM
Your not allowed to mention Chev Heath dammit! Ford and Holden ONLY!
Otherwise I'd mention that the Rover V8 has the best factory burble of the lot!
Which was a Buick design released in 1961, hence, a GM design
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I love Holdens but am not completely one-eyed about it. I love a screaming 308/355
but also think a Clevo sounds great. Not sure if I could own a Ford though...
It's as if I feel a certain loyalty to Holden because of all the stuff my Grandpa told me as a kid !
Either way I think nothing beats the note on some of these Carbied V8s.
but also think a Clevo sounds great. Not sure if I could own a Ford though...
It's as if I feel a certain loyalty to Holden because of all the stuff my Grandpa told me as a kid !
Either way I think nothing beats the note on some of these Carbied V8s.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:26 PM
Red 6s sound like angels weaving rainbows.
OMG...you are deaf aren't you
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:32 PM
Red 6s sound like angels weaving rainbows.
OMG...you are deaf aren't you
Are you being politically correct?
Edited by TerrA LX, 11 April 2010 - 11:32 PM.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:59 PM
Your not allowed to mention Chev Heath dammit! Ford and Holden ONLY!
Otherwise I'd mention that the Rover V8 has the best factory burble of the lot!
Which was a Buick design released in 1961, hence, a GM design
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