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[Rainman]

Hello to all forum Members, Hope your off to a great day. I have a  1980 (07/80) WB Ute with a 253 and 4 Speed. I purchased the car a few years back. It had a gearbox issue when purchased. Hard to get gears and would make a noise until you pushed the clutch in. I think the noise was the clutch bearing spinning 24/7. I removed the box the other night and the Gearbox rebuild kit I had purchased seemed different to the old bearing removed. After a little research I think the wrong bearing was installed.

 

 

The clutch bearing removed was for a  1969 to 1979 gearbox  Part Number GSB 222.

 

The clutch bearing I think is required would have part number GSB 319

 

 

I am also looking to replace the Fork with one I had in my shed it looks the same ?? will it fit

 

 

The fork is a CRS TF12.

 

 

Thanks for any advice in advance.

 

 

Rainman

[Cook]

Hi Ray,

 

I recently had to change over my bell-housing & fork to accommodate 253 into 4 speed for my WB.  I replaced the clutch and pressure plates at the same time.  The reason I had to change over as gearbox out of Torana was a push type set up whereas wb is a pull type.  A quick check of the net suggests that bearing part number is for a 6cyl but I don't know.  Just mention this as there are a number of different bearings and forks, depending on the application.

 

I bought my fork from Dellow in Sydney and from memory I might have bought the bearing there as well.There is a fair bit of detail in other posts that I referred to at the time. Cheers Ron

[Rainman]

Cheers Ron, Thanks for the info mate. Will have a read today. First time removing a gearbox by myself, not something I enjoyed and hope to get it right the first time lol.

[Cook]

Good luck with it Ray.  One thing I had difficulty with was setting the clutch pedal height and I couldn't get the pivot ball adjusted properly at home so had to get it to a mechanic to do on a hoist.  Also I got told by Dellow to make sure there was an air gap between the bearing and the pressure plate but this is not correct.  No way you can get a gap.  Cheers Ron

[Rainman]

Thanks Ron, The bearing GSB 319 is shorter than GSB 222, and GSB 319 states for vehicle 80 to 85. I think the 222 are for vehicles to late 79. Being a shorter bearing would this be a better option if optional ?

[Cook]

Ray, I'm not the best qualified to answer that but is the GSB 319 just the bearing and doesn't include the carrier?  I simply sought the one that matched the application and fork.  Sorry I couldn't help further.  Cheers Ron

[Rainman]

Hey Ron, Thanks for your advice. The GSB 319 does have the carrier. I stated it is shorter but that was a guess based on a visual. Better see if that is fact. Will post some pics if I can get my Bluetooth working. Cheers Ron. Rainman

[rodomo]

It had a gearbox issue when purchased. Hard to get gears and would make a noise until you pushed the clutch in.  
Rainman

Sounds more like the input shaft bearing?

[Rainman]

Thanks Guy's, Looks like I will place all the items in the back of the ute and take them to my mechanic on the weekend. I sometimes wonder, with so many mechanics out of work why am I trying to be one ?.

[Rainman]

Hey Guy's, hope you all enjoy the long weekend . So I took the box and bits to ACS today in search of the clutch bearing and any other bits to get this car going. It turned out the previous owner had installed the wrong clutch bearing. As thought it should have been the GSB 319. I had an extreme clutch I purchased years back for the Torrie and wasn't used. They machined the fly wheel, supplied a new plate / bolts / clutch bearing and used the supplied pressure plate and set it up. Very smart bloke and great services . The clutch bearing supplied is a pressed on bearing on a short carrier. Told me the fork was set up for just past the half way with plenty of adjustment. Unlike the bearing that was installed previously, this bearing is flat (not tapered). He also asked if this was a six to eight conversion. I replied, not to my knowledge. As the cable position is different for both motors. I had enough time left in the day to clean the back of the block for tomorrows install. I decided I would remove the spigot bearing ready for tomorrow. Tried for a little while before google got the better of me. Well FROCK me, a piece of bread and a bolt and five minutes. Cheers for all your advice  

[Rainman]

Hey Ron, thanks for the advice. I thought I had already replied, sorry for the late reply. Like you said it was a push type previously installed. It ended up being the gearbox, was missing a few teeth. I wasn't able to get a gap from the bearing and pressure plate. Might attach a return spring to assist the fork. Here she is with rego. Cheers Guys for all advice

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[Cook]

No worries Ray.  I think you did reply somewhere.  Car looks great and I like the original mirrors and that nose badge.  Need one myself but can't justify what people are asking for them.  I've just got mine back from the tuner as I put a new starter motor in (early Commodore) and turns over great but tuning needed adjusting as carby flooding and hard to start when warm.  Don't you love old cars.  Enjoy the ride.  Cheers Ron

[Rainman]

Thanks Ron,

 

I picked her up a few years ago for $4000.00 . I purchased a timing light and did my first timing job. It was set on 12 before TDC and information I read said it should be six, so set it at six and didn't like it. So the next morning and a bit more info I set it by ear. Runs well and happy . The info I used is cars like to be advanced and you can hear a motor running well. It proposed set it advanced as much as you can with pinging or detonation. I am not a mechanic and only relaying info that I read. It did work for me this time. I have also purchased a pressure gage for the holley and will self teach (watch youtube) and give it a go. There are three different types of timing and the video I watched also explained how things work. Cheers Ron

^ Without Pinging or Detonation

[Cook]

Hi Chris, sorry I didn't see this post earlier.  I'm no expert so I suggest a call to Dellow Conversions in Sydney.  They will have the answers you want.  Cheers Ron

[Rainman]

I didn't see this post either, Sorry Chris. Not sure, but good advice to take it all to someone . Hopefully if funds allow, drop it off in the morning and pick up later that day ready to bolt back in. Rainman