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Posted 19 August 2013 - 07:05 PM

Shit.

Stick with the car dude...it's only money and if you give up on it, it'll haunt you   :shoot:

Personally I like Quag's offer - sounds a great deal.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 08:44 PM

I agree that 2 Drs do fetch more than 4drs. I still prefer a 4dr though.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:11 PM

Don't be stupid Hamo.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:19 PM

Let me expand on that.

 

You've saved up that money to do that car.

 

You obviously had the passion for it or you wouldn't have worked so hard and sacrificed stuff to save up to get it done.

 

Just because at this moment in time someone has said it aint worth it and you're wasting your money, doesn't mean you should give up.

 

I am speaking from experience.

 

It is YOUR car, YOUR money, and it will be worth a million bucks to you to have it back together, painted up and cruising around.

 

If in doubt, just have a look at "lucky the lime green metallic". Very soon there will be a start up video there and it will make so many people happy because they know where it has come from and have followed it from beginning to end.

 

Imagine how Grant will feel after all of his hard work to turn the key and hear a rumble and drive off down the street.

 

I'll feel the same about your car when you fire it up for the first time, and I'm sure I"m not alone.

 

Imagine how awesome it will be for you.

 

Who gives a toss what its worth, we told you what it would cost at the start and that it wouldn't be worth what a two door would be worth and your response was so what, so why should it change now  :dontknow:



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 09:29 PM

Sorry Chris, but that is absolute rubbish....

If i purchased a 2 door and a 4 door and the proceeded to spend $40k restoring and modifying (no numbers cars just s 's etc.). I bet my left one a 2 door would bring a fair bit more....

E.g. Lets assume we buy a rust free version in need of restoration. Assuming very or no rust due to someone elses work.

A nice 4 door complete car with all bits in various states of crap will cost around $5k.

An equally nice 2 door complete car with all bits in various states of crap will cost around $10k.

We then proceed to spend $40k on both to an equally nice rather good standard.

Lets be honest, this is a reasonable budget for a nice car, painted, retrimmed and decent driveline.

The 4 door will be lucky to pull $20k if put on the market.

The 2 door will be lucky to pull $40k if put on the market.

A 2 door will cost twice as much to start and be worth twice as much at the end....

Sugarcoat it all you like, but i stand by these assumptions...

The only reason there are so many four door lc/lj projects on the go is the builder cannot afford or have your thoughts in regard to end values.

In the end, i assume noone builds a car for resale, but it has to be in the corner of everyone's mind... Stop kidding yourself.

Cheers.

My thoughts exactly Skap.

 

Sure, fix-up your car, 4 door or not.  Just don't pay someone else to do it unless you want a trophy winning show car, that is where you waste your money on other peoples labour.  My car will be the best I can do, not some rich panel beater -  spray painter.  It won't be perfect but it will be all yours. 



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 10:34 PM

Hamo if it was me i wouldnt go thru with it resale or not that car will owe you 20 k plus on the road if you keep it for years fine but if in 12 months time your over it and go to sell it get ready to drop some coin as others have said

Your car your money

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 11:13 PM

The main point for the possible sale is the lack of motivation or passion. It's been on the panel beaters list for like nearly 2 years (the one that #@$^%& me over god knows how many times with his so called "list"). I would of enjoyed having it all done and finished around  this time but if i finish it off the way i want it i won't be using it as a daily, and i need another car.
And if i get a new job which will possibly be the army if i get fit again thats like over a 1 hour drive until things are sorted and i get a rental or use their accomidation (i think they have).

If i spend it all on the torana now i have nothing left. Hell i've saved up so fricken hard i don't have a phone, i haven't bought a new pair of clothes in god knows how long and i basicly have nothing. If im honest im kinda over it all. I would love to see it all finished but i dont think i would enjoy it anymore. Im sure once i get a new job and get on with things later down the track i will buy another older car and i will do it up i have no doubts about that but at this point in time it seems worthless and to save up the money again to move on after the torana is finished will take ages because to this point i have literaly not spent a cent on anything else.

 

I think the lack of passion is more out of my control with whats gone on but i can't really change that. I think the best thing is to sell it all (keep something to remember it all buy) and move on and buy another torana later on when im more financialy secure as well with the space, time and room to do it properly.

 

It's not really about the resale. If it was finished i would most likely never sell it but....yea it isnt finished.

And as much as it would piss off people i actualy prefer the 4 doors and thats why i bought it. I didn't care about the resale value and i still don't cause the intention was to keep it but now everythings upside down and things have changed.


Edited by Hamster, 19 August 2013 - 11:17 PM.


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Posted 19 August 2013 - 11:18 PM

Thats the smart thing to do hayden you got your head screwed on son

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:44 AM

Hamo,
if your Torana was the quickest in town - everybody would want it,
 so Quag paints it and we give it a Power up Hamo,
 big head, carb and cam should do it.
 2K paint + 2K power plant upgrade = 4K


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Posted 20 August 2013 - 02:45 AM

I don't know if it will help, but here is my Torana story.

I bought a 73 LJ 2 Door in 2000. I completely rebuilt it on the cheap and loved that thing more than life itself. All the while everyone telling me I spend too much on it, go too fast, am a hoon, etc... But damn I loved that car.

Come 2005 and I have to buy a little Diamond ring, the car needs a good rebuild and figure maybe it is time to grow up and move on with my life. I sold the car for $4500. I figured I could buy another one when I want one and it will be great. Not so much.

Well, it didn't even take a year and I regretted selling the car. I still love my wife and the direction my life has taken, but I wish I had kept the car. So sure, buy another one. Well with 2 kids and a mortgage and the fact that the same car 8 years later would be worth $15K+ there is no way in the near future that I'll have another LJ in my garage.

I always say, the only regret I have in my life is selling the Torana. MY advice is that even though you are over it at the moment, think long and hard before selling the car.

Is this your "dream" car? Will you miss it in a few years. Will you have the funds again to do this kind of a project? Remember, things only get more expensive from here.

 

If it were me, I'd work on my welding skills, maybe take a class. I'd do all the rust repairs and take Quag up on his offer. $4-6K and you can have a decent streeter and then have $8K for a decent daily.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:19 AM

If the passion is gone and you have space, pack it up and store it. Use your 14k for what ever is best for you at this time in your life. The car won't loose value sitting in a shed.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:25 AM

Thats the smart thing to do hayden you got your head screwed on son

 

You don't make friends with Salad!!

 

Ie. Just cause its the smart thing to do, doesn't mean its the right decision.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:05 PM

If the passion is gone and you have space, pack it up and store it. Use your 14k for what ever is best for you at this time in your life. The car won't loose value sitting in a shed.

 

This is the smart man.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:16 PM

I don't really have room to store it unless i can convince mum and dad to clean the garage out.

It's been at neils (sandblasters) for like a year and he has been very patient and nice keeping it there for me considering he is sick and looking at selling up shop still. Plus he hasn't made me pay rent or anything, and gave me a good price on the sandblasting.

 

Ill have a look at some cars and see what the right way to go is. Even if i keep the shell i will sell the engine and a few other things to gain a bit more money. I want a 4wd ute. Some may say thats dumb and impractical but at this point in time i do a lot of farm work and i would actualy like to go traveling australia at some stage while im still young aswell. And being just about 6 foot 4 the holden is out of the question because its frOcking tiny inside.

 

In saying all this no one has given me a rough price yet?

Engine cost bit over 4k ( i got the receipt) Plus the reco'd gearbox.
 

I dunno if i should at up all the other reciepts it might scare me.


Edited by Hamster, 20 August 2013 - 12:19 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:25 PM

Hamo if you look through my thread you will see i have come close to selling mine twice for similar reasons to you. In the end i just cant bring myself to do it and couldnt imagine driving another car as a daily it does all cost money but wjen your vehind the wheel of something unique it s a grwat feeling. So many people can relate to them and then you can laugh at the wankers in there commodores with chev badges haha.

If i had the money you have or your saving skills i can assure you that my car would be first on the list with a respray and decent driveline. If you do all the work yourself as above you could do it for around 2k including buying the equipment. That 2k is for the respray. You have rebuilt the motor already so thats done. Throw a m20 behind it and a standard diff with a standard interior. You could have it done for 6k including reg and roady if you do all the work.

Then you will have the pride to tell people you did it yourself. I get some funny looks when i tell people i built my motor myself for like $200 but it makes me proud to say that. In the end its up to you but give it a while and tackle a few small things while you decide.

Good luck whatever your descision.

Im also sure any members close by would be happy to help and you have all the support you need to get through it on here.

Btw im 20 renting with my partner and paying my way which is hard but can be managed.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 01:47 PM

maybe an idea if the body is in good nick http://www.gumtree.c...edan/1025946199

Right round the corner from my place actually, where was it last week lol.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:02 PM

Hayden buy your 4wd drive ute and explore oz mate you can get another torana anytime you want
travel now while you are young dont wait till your old

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:04 PM

You don't make friends with Salad!!
 
Ie. Just cause its the smart thing to do, doesn't mean its the right decision.

Craig it is the right decision

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:43 AM

Craig it is the right decision

 

Hypocrite much?

 

Mr I've had my Sandman for 25 years and will be buried in it!

 

Either way its not my decision or yours Gene, just giving my opinion.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:04 PM

sooo opinions asside.

Price?

 

If i sell it i've decided ill keep the door that i warped and fix it all up and possibly get some fancy mural on it at some stage and hang it in the shed. Providing i get a house with a shed. (also providing i get a house...)



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:23 PM

When you have a rough idea what it is worth you could try a Swap ad on here, for the kind of 4WD you are thinking of buying with a cash adjustment.

Or you could buy a cheap 4WD to get around in and finish the Torana. You could finish it cheaply if you put your mind to it. You don't need to impress people with a show finish.

And for a first 4WD you are better off starting with something cheap you can bash around. You can buy something decent these days for under 5K.

The world is your oyster young man.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:55 PM

see if you can rent some workshop space cheap and throw a cover over it,do a welding/panel beating course,
get your house/personal issues and shed space sorted buy the tools you need once a week/month/at tax time...whenever you can afford them
you will never get anywhere near what you spent on that motor hamo let alone the rest of the car...
spend what you've saved on whatever tickles your fancy
take a holiday
when the motorvation returns get stuck into again

good things come to those who wait :)
remember it's a hobby ..there is only the time limits/budget you impose on the project..not others
but in the end it's your car your $$$ you do what you want...but you only live once...and we all have
cars we regret selling

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:18 PM

seen as no ones helping with the car itself ill post a list of bits and pieces and  get a rough price on those and figure out a price for the other by myself i guess and decide what im doing.

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2 gtr/xu1 dashes full.

1 gtr wiring loom

1 standard dash

1 standard wiring loom

double su's with manifold and everything.

350 holley with manifold and everything.

new drop tank + fuel sender thing

2 fluted front guards

valance panel

rad support

Nose piece



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:30 PM

well if you determined....
search ebay's completed listings for simalar items
that will give you a rough guide at todays market price
but a gtr dash will range from 200-500 depending on cond

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 05:47 PM

As an unfinished project the shell will be worth stuff all even with the replacement panels you would be lucky to gwt much over 2k
Thats is my opinion after folling prices on ebay for a while. The market isnt there atm and this car needs a lot of work.

The motor if its just the bottom end and head all reco expect 500 -1k max.

I would be interested in the 350 holley and manifold and possibly the su's and manifold pm me a rough price your after cheers




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